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spamman
Jul 11, 2002

Chin up Tiger, There is always next season...
As an engineer that deals with high maintenance infrastructure (rail), this week was a wonderful wonderful thing.

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Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



A few years ago when that report from the civil engineering society about how our bridges were all going to fall down was all over the news, I actually looked into the report and tracked down the bridges in my area that were dangerous. The report said that they were all the important bridges on highways (or what passes for highways around here)... except, the numbers didn't add up. The bridges were the wrong size or had the wrong traffic or other details were wrong. So I dug a bit further and it turned out that all the bridges in my area that they identified as having problems were tiny, rural things that had less than twenty vehicles per day, but they listed their location as more important, heavily trafficked bridges. Essentially, the ones with problems were the exact type of bridge that you'd expect to be at the bottom of the list of getting repairs. I can't say for certain that they made over a dozen intentional errors just in my area as part of intentional deception so their report would be scarier, but it really smells fishy.

Of course, maintenance is always the toughest thing to get people to spend money on effectively. Do it right and the people holding the purse strings start going, "Well, why the gently caress do we need you? Everything is fine!"

Cacator
Aug 6, 2005

You're quite good at turning me on.

Cats are assholes. Although she was totally egging it on to knock that glass over.

Astro Nut
Feb 22, 2013

Nonsensical Space Powers, Activate! Form of Friendship!

Random Stranger posted:

Of course, maintenance is always the toughest thing to get people to spend money on effectively. Do it right and the people holding the purse strings start going, "Well, why the gently caress do we need you? Everything is fine!"

It gets extra problematic because of the differing degrees to which one considers 'sufficient' in terms of repairs. Ie, do you want it to last twenty years, ten, or just fill in the hole ASAP? My brother works at one of the rail companies here in Britain, and whilst he's only been employed for half a year now, he's quickly discovered the very precarious balance between getting the most for their money whilst staying under budget and not inciting anger due to delays.

sbaldrick
Jul 19, 2006
Driven by Hate
That was a super relevant thing to my job and I want to see if I can buy some clips from HBO.

NieR Occomata
Jan 18, 2009

Glory to Mankind.

The infrastructure bit was important but ironically landed really poorly because John did the "and if you know anything about x then (pop culture reference)" joke like five times too many

KIM JONG TRILL
Nov 29, 2006

GIN AND JUCHE

Toxxupation posted:

The infrastructure bit was important but ironically landed really poorly because John did the "and if you know anything about x then (pop culture reference)" joke like five times too many

Agreed. Also the "[absurd statement], that's a fact, that's a fact" joke is wearing thin.

Viginti
Feb 1, 2015
I never thought Jon Stewart was a hilarious comedian, but its remarkable how his bits are still amusing and feel fresher after so many shows whereas Oliver's are already drying up for me. Honestly, as much as I love 'Denzel Washington is the Greatest Actor of All Time' I think all of the show's joke writers need to be let go after this season. The stories are still strong and the structure is good, but the jokes are consistently disappointing, doubly so anytime they cut to one of those narrated videos which spend ninety seconds repeating the exact joke Oliver told when introducing it. I like having the humour there to leven the load of the heavy stories, but the jokes just aren't strong enough to stand for any longer than a second or two.

Trivia
Feb 8, 2006

I'm an obtuse man,
so I'll try to be oblique.
The journalism aspects are great, but I agree that it's starting to feel Family Guy-esque, along the lines of "remember that time..."

I really don't think they have to try so hard to make a joke, as the absurdity of a lot of the stories speaks for itself.

Baronash
Feb 29, 2012

So what do you want to be called?
It's me. I'm the schmuck who will laugh at the same joke show after show.

Fateo McMurray
Mar 22, 2003

You're wrong, it's still really funny, jon stewart has been making the same "fox news is crazy and lies and is dumb" joke for 15 years

Fans
Jun 27, 2013

A reptile dysfunction
The only thing bugging me is how he keeps saying "Moving on, moving on" at the end of every segment. Otherwise Ioving this show as a compliment to the Bugle.

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

.
They could totally get rid of the skits and just run another news story and I'd be happy.

notaspy
Mar 22, 2009

If they don't do the stupid jokes they will be held to the same standards as journalists and the two john's want to avoid that at all costs.

Echo Chamber
Oct 16, 2008

best username/post combo
It's as if John Oliver has a "comedy" background and likes telling these "jokes".

Fateo McMurray
Mar 22, 2003

Yeah it's like this is a comedy program

GutBomb
Jun 15, 2005

Dude?
If you'd rather have hard hitting investigative journalism without the jokes there are other outlets. There is Frontline on PBS and Panorama on the BBC for starters.

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe
Journalism without jokes is boring.

Senor Tron
May 26, 2006


Fans posted:

The only thing bugging me is how he keeps saying "Moving on, moving on" at the end of every segment. Otherwise Ioving this show as a compliment to the Bugle.

Yeah, anyone who dislikes running jokes should avoid the Bugle.

As for me, I say embrace it and bring across Andy for five minutes of puns on the subject of the week.

Narcissus1916
Apr 29, 2013

Eh, I'm still greatly enjoying Last Week Tonight.

Really want to see the "Our Friend Israel" episode though. Going after the scourges of doctor bribery, infrastructure, and tobacco hasn't really done it for me.

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


I'm sure he'll do something on that loving stupid presentation that Netanyahu made this week.

Humbug Scoolbus
Apr 25, 2008

The scarlet letter was her passport into regions where other women dared not tread. Shame, Despair, Solitude! These had been her teachers, stern and wild ones, and they had made her strong, but taught her much amiss.
Clapping Larry

muscles like this? posted:

I'm sure he'll do something on that loving stupid presentation that Netanyahu made this week.

Stewart knocked it out of the park last night.

spamman
Jul 11, 2002

Chin up Tiger, There is always next season...

Senor Tron posted:

Yeah, anyone who dislikes running jokes should avoid the Bugle.

As for me, I say embrace it and bring across Andy for five minutes of puns on the subject of the week.

Reviving hotties from history would be a great addition too.

agatona
Oct 29, 2010

^^^ I've only listened to a few early episodes of The Bugle but the Hotties from History was my favorite bit. I would not mind having that on this show.

I thought the episode was laugh out loud funny especially the Infrastructure film trailer. I can't believe someone actually wants to remove these skits from the show.

Issaries
Sep 15, 2008

"At the end of the day
We are all human beings
My father once told me that
The world has no borders"

The American was always funny on the Bugle, but that wouldn't probably work on an American-based TV-show.

Baronash
Feb 29, 2012

So what do you want to be called?

Solice Kirsk posted:

They could totally get rid of the skits and just run another news story and I'd be happy.

Infrastructure is probably the best thing Ed Norton has ever done. What is wrong with you?

Viginti
Feb 1, 2015
I don't think anyone is proposing that they remove humour from the show - when i said they should fire the joke writers I meant that they should then hire a fresh crew - just the segments in which they try to force the funny. When they weave the jokes into the stories it's great, but the jokes don't stand alone too well these days and so for every Infrastructure there's a Gerbil apology which adds nothing to the story and isn't funny since hearing the V.O. guy say crazy, obscene things is a gag they've gone too multiple times every episode. It seems like they have a skit quota they feel compelled to hit and force these things in; if they don't actually have a great idea for a joke then I'd rather they don't bother.

Harton
Jun 13, 2001

Show is still hilarious, infrastructure was fantastic. I don't think they should change anything at all. Even my girl was laughing, that's the ultimate test. If she laughs it's funny guaranteed.

agatona
Oct 29, 2010

Viginti posted:

I don't think anyone is proposing that they remove humour from the show - when i said they should fire the joke writers I meant that they should then hire a fresh crew - just the segments in which they try to force the funny. When they weave the jokes into the stories it's great, but the jokes don't stand alone too well these days and so for every Infrastructure there's a Gerbil apology which adds nothing to the story and isn't funny since hearing the V.O. guy say crazy, obscene things is a gag they've gone too multiple times every episode. It seems like they have a skit quota they feel compelled to hit and force these things in; if they don't actually have a great idea for a joke then I'd rather they don't bother.

On the other hand, I found all these things funny so I say keep the writers. Keep the skits. Keep the voice over guy. I love him.

Viginti
Feb 1, 2015
Well i'm jealous Aga, I wish I was in your camp and was all of last season. I found the jokes funny enough the first twenty-four times but it seems that was the limit. There are no more new episodes of the Weekly Wipe now, so maybe without that inevitably unflattering comparison Last Week will start to win me back. I don't know that it will return to my yearly Top Ten at this rate though.

Sivart13
May 18, 2003
I have neglected to come up with a clever title

Viginti posted:

I don't know that it will return to my yearly Top Ten at this rate though.
If there are ten other things you like more than Last Week Tonight I would like to know what they are because they must be very good things.

Viginti
Feb 1, 2015
You were likely being facetious so I won't list them all but there are already a decent number of shows this year that I'm liking/have liked more, a number of them airing before and after LWT on HBO Sunday nights (Why there is no Jinx thread I'll never know. One day i'll make one). In it's favor though LWT has thirty-five episodes this year, which is huge, unless you compare it to say The Daily Show. Still, that gives it plenty of time to rebound the humour and continue the great reporting, it's also enough time for me to have the stick surgically removed from my arse and stop being such a grump.

Irish Joe
Jul 23, 2007

by Lowtax
Or maybe the more one watches LWT, the easier it becomes to see through the thin veneer of humor hiding what is, in fact, a poorly researched show designed to do nothing more than stir up seven days worth of moral outrage every week. Honestly, how many times can people be told "this is the worst thing ever" before they stop believing it?

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

Viginti posted:

There are no more new episodes of the Weekly Wipe now.

drat it Britain, TV shows can have more then 6 episodes a series you know.

Viginti
Feb 1, 2015
The Weekly Wipe is this weeks 'worst thing ever' because it only has five new episode's and a clip show each year. Then again Brooker does also have the annual ninety seconds of A Touch of Cloth and Black Mirror to produce. He's only one man, asking him to create more than five or six hours of content a year for the five or six programs he gets paid to write is clearly unreasonable. When will John Oliver finally dedicate a monologue to this outrage?

Phoon
Apr 23, 2010

They can't allow weekly wipe to go on too long or we'd have effective satire on british tv and not just panel shows where old men are confused by pictures of miley cyrus

Beefed Owl
Sep 13, 2007

Come at me scrub-lord I'm ripped!

Irish Joe posted:

Or maybe the more one watches LWT, the easier it becomes to see through the thin veneer of humor hiding what is, in fact, a poorly researched show designed to do nothing more than stir up seven days worth of moral outrage every week. Honestly, how many times can people be told "this is the worst thing ever" before they stop believing it?

Was going to comment on the shittiness of this post, then read your avatar, now I can save a shitload of time.

cant cook creole bream
Aug 15, 2011
I think Fahrenheit is better for weather

TurboFlamingChicken posted:

Was going to comment on the shittiness of this post, then read your avatar, now I can save a shitload of time.

That guy must have a really depressing life. I don't think Irish Joe is capable of having positive or good oppinions.

Cape Cod Crab Chip
Feb 20, 2011

Now you don't have to suck meat from an exoskeleton!
I thought the sausage sandwich joke was good

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crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*

TurboFlamingChicken posted:

Was going to comment on the shittiness of this post, then read your avatar, now I can save a shitload of time.

It's really weird to see posts like this because I have ignored Irish Joe ages ago and the android app doesn't show ignored posts at all.

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