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Yeah not really a fan of any smoke, particularly the highly engineered 50% THC or whatever it is strains that are all the rage around here that give people who never smoke weed a contact high very easily. Call me crazy but I don't think it's unreasonable to have people and their children not want to be forced to be exposed to your loving drugs on a daily basis.
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:The smell may be annoying, but I wouldn't worry too much about your niece. The concentration in the air from someone smoking outside is negligible, exhaust fumes even on a quiet street are probably more of a health concern. Air quality is just plain lovely in populated areas. This is a truly bizarre argument, cars produce lots of horrible pollution so I shouldn't worry about the fact that I'm getting a contact high and questioning whether I actually have eight years sober or not as well as not try to figure out if my niece is getting a contact high but it's ok don't just don't worry about it bro cities are filthy? What?
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Mar 4, 2015 15:42
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Pryor on Fire posted:This is a truly bizarre argument, cars produce lots of horrible pollution so I shouldn't worry about the fact that I'm getting a contact high and questioning whether I actually have eight years sober or not as well as not try to figure out if my niece is getting a contact high but it's ok don't just don't worry about it bro cities are filthy? What? Unless you are in a small enclosed space with someone smoking weed for a while, you aren't getting a contact high.
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Mar 4, 2015 16:02
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Matey posted:Unless you are in a small enclosed space with someone smoking weed for a while, you aren't getting a contact high. No way bro, that 50% smoke got me hooked on meth again immediately after I caught a whiff of it passing by the enormous mobs of homeless that effectively rule the city. I think I must live in a different Denver?
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Mar 4, 2015 16:15
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Pryor on Fire posted:Yeah not really a fan of any smoke, particularly the highly engineered 50% THC or whatever it is strains that are all the rage around here that give people who never smoke weed a contact high very easily. Call me crazy but I don't think it's unreasonable to have people and their children not want to be forced to be exposed to your loving drugs on a daily basis. You're the guy that freaks out about people smoking a cigarette on the street corner, aren't you?
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Mar 4, 2015 16:46
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It ruins the social ambiance to see people puffing away on cigarettes like delinquents all over the place. It's the difference between a glass of wine with dinner and drinking four loko from a brown bag in front of 7-11.
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Mar 4, 2015 16:51
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computer parts posted:Also most people don't drink during the day. These brunch mimosas aren't going to drink themselves 
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Mar 4, 2015 16:52
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Stop bitching about smoking weed in public. This think-of-the-children concern trolling is the same bullshit argument that's been used to prop up prohibition in the first place. If someone is smoking weed in public as you happen to be walking by, do the same exact thing you do when someone is smoking a cigarette: keep walking.
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Mar 4, 2015 16:52
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I actually don't like people smoking cigarettes in public because it smells disgusting and they usually don't even bother trying to blow it away from you. No, please don't blow all your cigarette smoke into my face as you walk by.
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Mar 4, 2015 17:17
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For Germangoons: Germany's Green Party has presented a proposal to legalize cannabis. In short, the proposal would allow for legal possession of up to 30g of product for anyone above the age of 18. It also allows for distribution through licensed retailers, who must have a clean criminal record, would be subject to periodic government inspections, and would be prohibited from setting up shop near schools and other youth institutions. This is seeing support from all sides except lawmakers; journalists, law enforcement, the general population, and pretty much everyone who isn't a Worried Mom who thinks weed is crack seem to be mostly supportive or indifferent. The stated intention of the green party is to stimulate public debate in favor of legalization to put pressure on the other parties. The proposed legislation. snorch fucked around with this message at 17:24 on Mar 4, 2015 |
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Mar 4, 2015 17:18
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Pryor on Fire posted:Don't worry if it's anything like Colorado everyone will ignore that no smoking in public places bit 100% and every time you step outside your door you get to inhale marijuana because the police refuse to waste time ticketing the thousands of people constantly smoking in public. I just want to take a walk with my niece can you put that poo poo out already?
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Mar 4, 2015 17:26
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GreyPowerVan posted:I actually don't like people smoking cigarettes in public because it smells disgusting and they usually don't even bother trying to blow it away from you. No, please don't blow all your cigarette smoke into my face as you walk by. So? Legalization movements are not platforms for people to spout how much they don't like smoke in their face. It's a non-issue
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Mar 4, 2015 17:31
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FreshlyShaven posted:How is this any worse than smelling tobacco smoke? You're aware that we've gotten rid of that in most civilized places, right?
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Anyway, getting back to policy stuff. If you want to see more examples of grasping, nay, flailing at straws, a couple more good ones came out as of late: --- NYPD Commissioner blames uptick in murders on weed, "The seemingly innocent drug that's been legalized around the country.": http://gothamist.com/2015/03/03/marijuana_is_murder_bratton.php -- Anit NGO attributes, in part, the quadrupling of heroin ODs to the legalization of marijuana: http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2015/3/4/heroin-overdose-deaths-quadrupled-since-2010.html posted:David G. Evans, of the Drug-Free America Foundation, blames the use of less-harmful drugs for the uptick in heroin use.
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Mar 4, 2015 18:23
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Nintendo Kid posted:You're aware that we've gotten rid of that in most civilized places, right? what, like, the moon? people smoke on the street all the time. itt fishmech betrays his fundamental disconnect with the concept of being outdoors in a city
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Mar 4, 2015 18:25
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As a weed smoker who lives somewhere where it's now legal and not allowed to be used in public spaces y'all need to grow the gently caress up.
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Mar 4, 2015 18:38
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Nintendo Kid posted:You're aware that we've gotten rid of that in most civilized places, right? Outside of a couple of rich towns in California, no, we haven't. You can smoke a cigarette on the street in 99.9% of the US, in Canada, Australia, Europe, Africa, East Asia and just about every other country except for territory controlled by ISIS. quote:- Anit NGO attributes, in part, the quadrupling of heroin ODs to the legalization of marijuana: I mean, this is obviously idiotic, but especially so considering that the uptick in heroin use is directly attributable to prescription opiate use and there's strong evidence that giving people access to marijuana reduces the use of prescription opiates. Luckily, I don't think people are still gullible enough to buy the whole "pot is a gateway drug" nonsense.
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Mar 4, 2015 18:58
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FreshlyShaven posted:Outside of a couple of rich towns in California, no, we haven't. You can smoke a cigarette on the street in 99.9% of the US, in Canada, Australia, Europe, Africa, East Asia and just about every other country except for territory controlled by ISIS. Just about every public facility and a pretty hefty range outside the doors in a whole bunch of states - apparently just a few towns in California. 
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Mar 4, 2015 19:08
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Nintendo Kid posted:Just about every public facility and a pretty hefty range outside the doors in a whole bunch of states - apparently just a few towns in California. You know the conversation was about people smoking outside, right?
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Mar 4, 2015 19:10
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KillHour posted:You know the conversation was about people smoking outside, right? They are also a threat and will be dealt with this century.
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Mar 4, 2015 19:11
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KillHour posted:You know the conversation was about people smoking outside, right? fishmech is incapable of admitting fault so now the conversation will pivot to the 25-50 foot radius near public doors as being the sole constituting characteristic of 'outside' when i take my niece on walks we just do laps on the welcome mat
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Mar 4, 2015 19:14
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Does wherever you guys live allow public consumption of alcohol? Cuz we sure as hell don't.
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Mar 4, 2015 19:31
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KillHour posted:You know the conversation was about people smoking outside, right? Yeah that's not legal in a lot of outside in a lot of places? That is the point.
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Mar 4, 2015 19:34
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Yeah, other than cigarettes, what other drugs can be consumed while walking down the sidewalk. Not to mention the fact you guys are acting like there are cops on every loving street watching out for you guys and you're too stupid to go hide somewhere without a lot of people for 5 minutes to get your smoke on. Have none of you actually smoked/drank in public areas before and not know how this works?
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Mar 4, 2015 19:39
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site posted:Does wherever you guys live allow public consumption of alcohol? Cuz we sure as hell don't. No but because alcohol is legal to possess, people have the ability to drink alcohol in public illegally. If alcohol were illegal, people would be forced to consume in private.
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Mar 4, 2015 19:39
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Slipknot Hoagie posted:No but because alcohol is legal to possess, people have the ability to drink alcohol in public illegally. If alcohol were illegal, people would be forced to consume in private. You guys are complaining that where weed is legal you can't consume it outside, so I don't understand the relevance. Plus this assumes that people don't drink/smoke outside illegally anyways which is retarded.
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Mar 4, 2015 19:40
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It's illegal to smoke inside my apartment, and illegal to smoke outside, so even though I have a weed store down the street I don't have any place where I can legally smoke my weed. Nobody really gives a gently caress if you smoke outside though. Every time I walk by union station I smell weed smoke, and being near a few bars I smell it walking down the street all the time. I don't smoke any more, so I don't really care, I just thought that was bullshit.
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Mar 4, 2015 19:45
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Full Battle Rattle posted:It's illegal to smoke inside my apartment
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Mar 4, 2015 19:50
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site posted:Does wherever you guys live allow public consumption of alcohol? Cuz we sure as hell don't. Those laws are selectively enforced for racist purposes and are bad laws to begin with.
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Mar 4, 2015 19:52
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site posted:Is this part of your rental agreement? I could have swore this was part of the Colorado Indoor Clean Air Act, but looking at the text of it suggests it's not. Still, my lease was pretty clear about my apartment being strictly non-smoking, and very, very explicit that this included both marijuana smoke as well as vapor. So at the very least, it's a violation of my lease.
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Mar 4, 2015 19:57
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site posted:Does wherever you guys live allow public consumption of alcohol? Cuz we sure as hell don't. No, but that's a) because there are places where you can walk in and order a beer(we call them bars.) There are no equivalents yet for that in legalized states and b) the explicit purpose of banning public drinking is to prevent the noise, nuisance, violence and vandalism that usually follows any gathering of people drinking alcohol. Pot doesn't make people louder, more aggressive or more violent so there's not the same justification. And even then, there are usually exceptions; you can drink wine at classy(read: upper-class) outdoors events, for instance in many places. quote:Yeah that's not legal in a lot of outside in a lot of places? That is the point. Jesus Christ, you're thick.
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Mar 4, 2015 19:58
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FreshlyShaven posted:
Sounds more like you are. Full Battle Rattle posted:I could have swore this was part of the Colorado Indoor Clean Air Act, but looking at the text of it suggests it's not. Still, my lease was pretty clear about my apartment being strictly non-smoking, and very, very explicit that this included both marijuana smoke as well as vapor. So at the very least, it's a violation of my lease. Yeah a lot of lease terms are quite dickish that way.
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Powercrazy posted:Those laws are selectively enforced for racist purposes and are bad laws to begin with. Full Battle Rattle posted:I could have swore this was part of the Colorado Indoor Clean Air Act, but looking at the text of it suggests it's not. Still, my lease was pretty clear about my apartment being strictly non-smoking, and very, very explicit that this included both marijuana smoke as well as vapor. So at the very least, it's a violation of my lease. FreshlyShaven posted:No, but that's a) because there are places where you can walk in and order a beer(we call them bars.) There are no equivalents yet for that in legalized states and b) the explicit purpose of banning public drinking is to prevent the noise, nuisance, violence and vandalism that usually follows any gathering of people drinking alcohol. Pot doesn't make people louder, more aggressive or more violent so there's not the same justification. And even then, there are usually exceptions; you can drink wine at classy(read: upper-class) outdoors events, for instance in many places. This all still ignores the fact you are all apparently too goddamn stupid to not smoke outside literally in front of cops, though. I've smoked outside hundreds, maybe thousands, of times outside and have never gotten busted. site fucked around with this message at 20:23 on Mar 4, 2015 |
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site posted:Yeah, other than cigarettes, what other drugs can be consumed while walking down the sidewalk.  I'm not sure that there are any laws about the self-administration of any of the quasi-legal powder drugs, only that you'd probably have to explain yourself. And public intoxication if you're obviously under the influence, although that is independent of where they were consumed.
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Mar 4, 2015 20:37
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site posted:Not in ak it's not. The fact that you can get away with it if you are "smart" is actually evidence it's a bad law.
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Mar 4, 2015 20:59
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Powercrazy posted:The fact that you can get away with it if you are "smart" is actually evidence it's a bad law. This is outrageously stupid because then all laws are bad laws
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Mar 4, 2015 21:04
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site posted:This is outrageously stupid because then all laws are bad laws
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Mar 4, 2015 21:06
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twodot posted:I think there's a distinction between "If you are smart, then there is literally no evidence whatsoever you broke the law" and "If you are smart, there is not sufficient evidence to prove you broke the law". The first category is pretty much the definition of victimless crimes, which are bad laws. Please describe how not leaving evidence makes something a victimless crime. I'm sure unsolved murder victims and their families would totally agree with you
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Mar 4, 2015 21:11
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site posted:Please describe how not leaving evidence makes it a victimless crime.
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twodot posted:Any crime that has a victim by definition left evidence, since the victim themself (or possibly the absence of the victim) is evidence. So violating emissions standards is a victimless crime then? Ok.
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