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bongwizzard
May 19, 2005

Then one day I meet a man,
He came to me and said,
"Hard work good and hard work fine,
but first take care of head"
Grimey Drawer

Morholt posted:


Several hours later, all sorted and shorn of their umbilical corner fluff. Now to set up a scenario..

What are those trays called and where do I get some?

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Fangz
Jul 5, 2007

Oh I see! This must be the Bad Opinion Zone!
Has anyone here played A Spoiled Victory, a solitaire board game about the Dunkirk Evacuation?

http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/148007/spoiled-victory-dunkirk-1940

Foehammer
Nov 8, 2005

We are invincible.

bunnielab posted:

What are those trays called and where do I get some?

Counter trays?

Here
Here
Here

cenotaph
Mar 2, 2013



Morholt posted:


Several hours later, all sorted and shorn of their umbilical corner fluff. Now to set up a scenario..

I remember cramming everything into one tray. I do one tray per nation and one marker tray and it makes setup a breeze. A tip someone gave me on bgg is to put the smoke and objectives chits in baggies since you just dump them into cup anyway.

Morholt
Mar 18, 2006

Contrary to popular belief, tic-tac-toe isn't purely a game of chance.
There was only one tray included and the game shop was out of them :colbert:

I like the idea about smokes and objectives though.

bongwizzard
May 19, 2005

Then one day I meet a man,
He came to me and said,
"Hard work good and hard work fine,
but first take care of head"
Grimey Drawer

That is very obvious. I guess I can give some boxes back to my fishing stuff now.

Foehammer
Nov 8, 2005

We are invincible.

Eh, tackle boxes have lids, and variable sized compartments. The trays aren't great for games that may get flipped or spun around during transit.

AARP LARPer
Feb 19, 2005

THE DARK SIDE OF SCIENCE BREEDS A WEAPON OF WAR

Buglord

AARP LARPer fucked around with this message at 02:21 on Jan 23, 2016

Count Thrashula
Jun 1, 2003

Death is nothing compared to vindication.
Buglord

Do Not Resuscitate posted:

Lke Foehammer says, counter trays aren't very good. Plano boxes are where it's at: http://www.amazon.com/Plano-23701-0...o+utility+boxes and you can find them cheap as hell all over the place.

Cheap as hell where? My local sporting goods shop has them for $8, and Amazon has them for $7. I need, uh... 11. So, every dollar saved is like $11 saved total.

AARP LARPer
Feb 19, 2005

THE DARK SIDE OF SCIENCE BREEDS A WEAPON OF WAR

Buglord

AARP LARPer fucked around with this message at 02:21 on Jan 23, 2016

Count Thrashula
Jun 1, 2003

Death is nothing compared to vindication.
Buglord

Oh gotcha. I was looking for the 3701s specifically. I guess 6.99 is the best I can do on those.

cenotaph
Mar 2, 2013



I've never had a counter tray open up on me.

TheCosmicMuffet
Jun 21, 2009

by Shine

cenotaph posted:

I've never had a counter tray open up on me.

And pray you never do, son. I can still hear the chit-chit-chit of them hitting my cover. My best friends dying right next to me--untrimmed corners tearing off their limbs!

We lost more men from papercuts than having kids in those days...

cenotaph
Mar 2, 2013



I have all my CC stuff spread out between the Europe, Mediterranean and Resistance boxes as well as an 800ct card box and a poster frame. I can only imagine hauling planos around. Honestly the games I use counter trays for are packed in so tightly they couldn't open up.

AARP LARPer
Feb 19, 2005

THE DARK SIDE OF SCIENCE BREEDS A WEAPON OF WAR

Buglord

AARP LARPer fucked around with this message at 02:21 on Jan 23, 2016

bongwizzard
May 19, 2005

Then one day I meet a man,
He came to me and said,
"Hard work good and hard work fine,
but first take care of head"
Grimey Drawer

COOL CORN posted:

Oh gotcha. I was looking for the 3701s specifically. I guess 6.99 is the best I can do on those.

I will find the link later but Amazon usually has four packs of Plano 3600 boxes for $15 shipped. That's the best price I have ever seen.

AARP LARPer
Feb 19, 2005

THE DARK SIDE OF SCIENCE BREEDS A WEAPON OF WAR

Buglord

AARP LARPer fucked around with this message at 02:22 on Jan 23, 2016

Dr. Lunchables
Dec 27, 2012

IRL DEBUFFED KOBOLD



Do Not Resuscitate posted:

and now I just ordered Twilight Struggle. Oh god, why am I doing this to myself?

You might actually play that one

dogsarentdangerous
Aug 11, 2008
Brother in law brought over Fire in the Lake last night, we didn't want to mess around with AI factions for our first game so I played the VC/NVA and he went US/RVN. It was really, really fun although very difficult to stop the US from romping home on the second coup card - he withdrew 10 units on the first coup card and without a distinct RVN player to govern all his support away I felt kind of helpless. Also all the events that came out were US orientated, neither of us have ever played a COIN game before so we assumed it was a US player always moves first sort of mechanic, it was only after the game ended and I was browsing through the deck I realised the deck hadn't been shuffled it and the game shouldn't be an endless parade of awe inspiring US bombing strikes.

Overall though really looking forward to playing again with 4 players. Also LoC seem both confusing and vital.

HerraS
Apr 15, 2012

Looking professional when committing genocide is essential. This is mostly achieved by using a beret.

Olive drab colour ensures the genocider will remain hidden from his prey until it's too late for them to do anything.



So a couple of months back I introduced a friend to Twilight Struggle and now we're pretty much playing it at least once a week. Today we played two games in one sitting and the results were pretty funny.

So in the first game I was the USSR and lost the game for no other reason than being a loving dumbass. I had Africa under control, was doing well in the Americas, barely hung onto Asia after a couple of disastrous turns and kept Europe split. So it's turn 7 and I've been sitting on CIA created for what feels like forever. I really should've headlined it the gently caress out or play it on AR1 as soon as I got the chance but I fell into the trap of 'but I reeeeally wanna headline this card this turn and play these cards too'. So he headlined Grain Sales and had the China Card, meaning I now had to play my entire hand. That's not a big deal, you say. Just play CIA on your first round and give him the free coup. Except I totally zoned out and didn't realize that I have to play every card until the second to last round when I was left with CIA in my hand and one more round to go. gently caress me. No explanation other than me not paying attention. OTOH it was his first win ever since we started playing and he got happy as hell, so meh.

The second game was our fastest yet, with me winning as the US (we always switch sides between each game) on turn 4. Perhaps trying to learn from my mistakes, he decided to headline CIA. Except I headlined Missile Envy and played Muslim Revolution for ops, meaning I could first drop DEFCON to 2 on my headline and then coup again on his headline and cause him to lose the game. I even had to check if I could do this and sure enough, the only battleground that I could coup in at DEFCON 2 was Nigeria, him having no other countries under control outside of the Early War regions. Much laughter ensued.

Morholt
Mar 18, 2006

Contrary to popular belief, tic-tac-toe isn't purely a game of chance.
Combat Commander trip report:
Started with Fat Lipki and after a bit of experimenting with orders and useless firing the Russians proceeded to walk over the Germans. Just as the Germans looked beaten they drew 2 reinforcement events and one walking wounded which evened things out. In particular an IG 18 was routed several Russian units. Still, the Germans were close to the surrender limit and had units in bad positions in the forest around objective 4, and an advance into melee saw the Russians win.

Then we played Hedgerows & Handgrenades which started out with an American squad plus officer stupidly moving onto the straight road within LoS of a heavy machinegun on the other end. Movement in other areas of the map went slightly better but still the American forces got fragmented and two units eliminated. The Americans got lucky with Sniper triggers plus a KIA event which eliminated two units close to my forward observer officer which we of course interpreted as him going full The Patriot on them. The Americans eventually recovered and took the center objectives by melee, which together with a few stray German units being killed off triggered German surrender. The Americans used 5 fire for effect orders, hitting the Germans once and the Americans four times :patriot:, historically accurate I suppose.

The second map played a lot better, largely due to us getting a better idea of firing odds and when to discard. Overall very enjoyable and we'll definitely be playing more in the future.

Panzeh
Nov 27, 2006

"..The high ground"

dogsarentdangerous posted:

Brother in law brought over Fire in the Lake last night, we didn't want to mess around with AI factions for our first game so I played the VC/NVA and he went US/RVN. It was really, really fun although very difficult to stop the US from romping home on the second coup card - he withdrew 10 units on the first coup card and without a distinct RVN player to govern all his support away I felt kind of helpless. Also all the events that came out were US orientated, neither of us have ever played a COIN game before so we assumed it was a US player always moves first sort of mechanic, it was only after the game ended and I was browsing through the deck I realised the deck hadn't been shuffled it and the game shouldn't be an endless parade of awe inspiring US bombing strikes.

Overall though really looking forward to playing again with 4 players. Also LoC seem both confusing and vital.

Remember that in the 2-player 2-side game, the US/RVN player does as well as the worst faction and both sides must get their early victory conditions to get an early victory except on the last coup card.

It's basically designed so you can't just tank the RVN and yank all the Americans or do the opposite where you shove in all the Americans to try to win with RVN.

Fat Turkey
Aug 1, 2004

Gobble Gobble Gobble!
Found The Hunters for £20 for a few hours only. Wouldn't mind a solo wargame but would be my first beyond Twilight Struggle and Memoir 44. Not that I mind some complexity.

Anyone want to help me choose?

T-Bone
Sep 14, 2004

jakes did this?
One of my FLGSs actually has a bunch of GMT wargames. They had The Sword of Rome at a good price...I resisted, but just barely. Europe Engulfed almost got me too.

e: ceno, not that I've bought CC yet -- but they had this expansion: https://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgameexpansion/86957/combat-commander-resistance

any thoughts?

T-Bone fucked around with this message at 17:18 on Mar 7, 2015

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




bunnielab posted:

What are those trays called and where do I get some?

Chit Racks

:colbert:

That name comes from an hour's worth of confusion back at Games of Berkeley. One of the non-gamer employees had sold some counter trays and didn't know what they were actually called. So she wrote down "chit racks" on the restock list. We didn't figure it out, we had to wait until she got back from lunch. I'm an old nerd and still think it's funny.


As for starter war-games, I'm partial to GDW's First Battle series. They're simple, cover a lot of chrome, and play pretty quickly. I'm disappointed they didn't use this system as the basis for Striker 2, but I'm very happy it exists. For scale, they're basically platoon-sized. I'd recommend either Sand of War for WW2 and later in the Middle East and North Africa, or Blood and Thunder for WW2 Eastern Front. There are tons of scenarios in each, and enough counters to go nuts making your own. The maps are generic geomorphic (and perfect for playing Ogre/GEV on). They fit squarely in the Panzerblitz niche.

Oh, and I'll sell you a partially punched Sands of War + expansion or an unpunched Stand or Die for a reasonable price

cenotaph
Mar 2, 2013



T-Bone posted:

One of my FLGSs actually has a bunch of GMT wargames. They had The Sword of Rome at a good price...I resisted, but just barely. Europe Engulfed almost got me too.

e: ceno, not that I've bought CC yet -- but they had this expansion: https://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgameexpansion/86957/combat-commander-resistance

any thoughts?

I've heard criticisms of Europe Engulfed that the map doesn't have enough areas for the block mechanic to really shine but I don't know personally. I think I read on BGG that the designer was going to rework it and pusblish a second edition. Doesn't sound like it's happening any time soon.

Resistance is good but you need both Europe and Mediterranean to fully use it because some of the scenarios are against the Italian/Axis Minor faction. Technically you need the molotov cocktail weapon chits from Med as well but you could just use something else for them. The resistance is pretty cool because their units can do weird stuff like become bigger and more powerful but slower and vice versa. They also have sighting markers on the board that allow them to bring on more units. They have a 36 card fate deck instead of a 72 one, a force deck instead of a support table, circled movement which has them treat all movement costs as one, and their leaders activate units within line of sight instead of a command radius. It's a really different experience.

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

So if I preorder A Distant Plain on P500 will I get it for reduced cost in the reprint this year?

Dr. Lunchables
Dec 27, 2012

IRL DEBUFFED KOBOLD



StashAugustine posted:

So if I preorder A Distant Plain on P500 will I get it for reduced cost in the reprint this year?

Yeah, you pay p500 price

Ubik_Lives
Nov 16, 2012

Foehammer posted:

Eh, tackle boxes have lids, and variable sized compartments. The trays aren't great for games that may get flipped or spun around during transit.

Remind me never to catch a lift to games night from you.

dogsarentdangerous
Aug 11, 2008

Panzeh posted:

Remember that in the 2-player 2-side game, the US/RVN player does as well as the worst faction and both sides must get their early victory conditions to get an early victory except on the last coup card.

It's basically designed so you can't just tank the RVN and yank all the Americans or do the opposite where you shove in all the Americans to try to win with RVN.

I wouldn't have remembered any of that because I never knew it, but I will deffo look it up before we play again. Thanks.

Foehammer
Nov 8, 2005

We are invincible.

Ubik_Lives posted:

Remind me never to catch a lift to games night from you.

:) It's not so much my driving as it is the fact that everything gets stuck sideways and tetris'd into a canvas grocery bag.

4outof5
Nov 10, 2003

Leader of the ULT Right.
Grabbing pussy since April 2, 1994
I'm thinking about doing the columbia 3 for $159 deal

my picks would be:

1759
Julius Caesar
Hammer of The Scots

but I'm open to suggestions on changing any of them.

4outof5
Nov 10, 2003

Leader of the ULT Right.
Grabbing pussy since April 2, 1994

4outof5 posted:

I'm thinking about doing the columbia 3 for $159 deal

my picks would be:

1759
Julius Caesar
Hammer of The Scots

but I'm open to suggestions on changing any of them.

decided against it

I did Julius Caesar since that's the one with the history I care about.

Bullbar
Apr 18, 2007

The Aristocrats!
Played Fire in the Lake with actual people for the first time yesterday. I loved the hell out of it, the other players experienced varying degrees of indifference. One wants to play it again, one said it was too complex (although he was the closest to winning when we had to stop) and one says he just had no idea what was going on. The hard part isn't necessarily the rules so much as knowing how to turn those operations into achieving a victory.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
Grey Hunter's Over the Top thread got me thinking: are there people that play miniatures wargames using virtual tabletops like VASSAL or roll20?

I suppose that sort of obviates the point of playing that kind of game if you're just going to abstract your Napoleonic regiment into a NATO counter, but then it would come with the advantage of pixel-perfect positioning and measurement, freedom to shape terrain as you wished, freedom to have army compositions that aren't limited by your budget and/or handiwork, and all the rest of the advantages of storing the game digitally over the internet.

Lichtenstein
May 31, 2012

It'll make sense, eventually.
It kinda sucks, but there's an appeal for playing stuff like Warmachine or Warhammer without actually buying and painting the miniatures. It's bootleg warmgaming.

4outof5
Nov 10, 2003

Leader of the ULT Right.
Grabbing pussy since April 2, 1994

CNN Sports Ticker posted:

Played Fire in the Lake with actual people for the first time yesterday. I loved the hell out of it, the other players experienced varying degrees of indifference. One wants to play it again, one said it was too complex (although he was the closest to winning when we had to stop) and one says he just had no idea what was going on. The hard part isn't necessarily the rules so much as knowing how to turn those operations into achieving a victory.

Try Cuba Libre with the two who didn't get it. Cuba Libre is not a "easier" game as some people will tell you . The linear progression of the map with fewer regions can help some people understand the concepts of the game better so they can focus in on the mechanics and tight decisions that makes coin a great war gaming system. but if "not understanding" is your friend's code for "not enjoying" themselves I don't think any version of coin would entice them. For anyone on the fence about coin games Cuba Libre is a awesome jumping off point but it's *not* a light version of the coin system.

4outof5 fucked around with this message at 12:48 on Mar 13, 2015

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

CL does have the advantage that DR and Syndicate are relatively easy to play- just rally wherever you see an opening or just open as many casinos as possible- so it's a little easier to ease people into it.

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry

gradenko_2000 posted:

Grey Hunter's Over the Top thread got me thinking: are there people that play miniatures wargames using virtual tabletops like VASSAL or roll20?

I suppose that sort of obviates the point of playing that kind of game if you're just going to abstract your Napoleonic regiment into a NATO counter, but then it would come with the advantage of pixel-perfect positioning and measurement, freedom to shape terrain as you wished, freedom to have army compositions that aren't limited by your budget and/or handiwork, and all the rest of the advantages of storing the game digitally over the internet.

I believe Tabletop Simulator might have a lot of miniatures wargames in the Steam Workshop.

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Tekopo
Oct 24, 2008

When you see it, you'll shit yourself.


X-Wing is pretty playable in Vassal.

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