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JerryLee posted:Those aren't the same though, unless I'm forgetting what arc blade does. They don't exile the spell, they try to put it somewhere else. Compare Obzedat and Whip. All Sun's Dawn ends with "Exile All Sun's Dawn." qbert posted:No, because Kolaghan only affects creature/planeswalker spells? That's because nobody cares about the dollar Mythic's trinket text ability 
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Mar 4, 2015 22:12
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Angry Grimace posted:All Sun's Dawn ends with "Exile All Sun's Dawn."
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Mar 4, 2015 22:14
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Bombastic trailer for the Origins game, featuring child Chandra. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saNAgbhd2gw I doubt the featured card artwork (like Vengvine) has any implications for what the paper set will include.
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Mar 4, 2015 22:16
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Angry Grimace posted:That's because nobody cares about the dollar Mythic's trinket text ability Could you please post a complete price guide for all the spoilered cards so far, I want to budget out my next month thanks.
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Mar 4, 2015 22:18
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mcmagic posted:I see what you did there WOTC making Foe Razor Regent a 4/5... What?
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Mar 4, 2015 22:19
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Rinkles posted:What? Because if it was 5/5 it would be REALLY REALLY good. Even at 7 cmc.
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Mar 4, 2015 22:20
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qbert posted:Could you please post a complete price guide for all the spoilered cards so far, I want to budget out my next month thanks. Seconding this for hilarity.
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Mar 4, 2015 22:20
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mcmagic posted:Because if it was 5/5 it would be REALLY REALLY good. Yeah much better, but at 7 mana still hardly playable I think.
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Mar 4, 2015 22:21
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Rinkles posted:Yeah much better, but at 7 mana still hardly playable I think. Kill your Siege Rhino/Tasiger and leave behind a 7/7 flyer is pretty great....
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Mar 4, 2015 22:22
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qbert posted:Could you please post a complete price guide for all the spoilered cards so far, I want to budget out my next month thanks. I don't get it. mcmagic posted:Kill your Siege Rhino/Tasiger and leave behind a 7/7 flyer is pretty great.... You know what else is great? Just casting Hornet Queen.
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Mar 4, 2015 22:24
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mcmagic posted:Kill your Siege Rhino/Tasiger and leave behind a 7/7 flyer is pretty great.... But yeah I 100% agree. The difference between four and five was absolutely massive here. Might still see some fringe play. It's certainly funny in some sort of weird ramp frontier siege / dragon deck. mr. mephistopheles posted:Yeah, drawing non creature spells and doubling kill, draw and wrath spells are totally not things control wants. Dash might be more valuable than we think. Spiderdrake fucked around with this message at 22:29 on Mar 4, 2015 |
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Mar 4, 2015 22:25
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Angry Grimace posted:But seriously, none of her abilities are good enough to justify switching to UW and none of them are even tailored toward control. Yeah, drawing non creature spells and doubling kill, draw and wrath spells are totally not things control wants.
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Mar 4, 2015 22:26
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mr. mephistopheles posted:Yeah, drawing non creature spells and doubling kill, draw and wrath spells are totally not things control wants. None of her abilities actually do anything you want in control reliably - her plus ability is basically rolling the dice at about 60% that you draw a card, which you need to hit on twice to make casting Narset card advantage (since Narset herself costs a card) and her rebound ability is mostly just cute with blue or white spells. You don't have access to Hero's Downfall or Thoughtseize in U/W, so those are out and white's removal suite is all either conditional or is an un-reboundable enchantment. You can rebound Treasure Cruise, sure, but you also have nothing to reliably fuel a big Delve spell in U/W (plus you have to do it on your turn).
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Mar 4, 2015 22:28
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Angry Grimace posted:You're forgetting something - you can't just put Narset in U/B Control. You have to take black out and switch to white because the mana is not good enough in Standard to play Esper. Rebounding even a Divination is great. As is rebounding any wrath or removal is pretty much a timewalk.
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Mar 4, 2015 22:33
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Angry Grimace posted:I don't get it. Please stop declaring the price of a card 5 seconds after it's spoiled. It's annoying. Edit: For actualy discussion, I think new Narset is insane and you're vastly undervaluing her.
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Mar 4, 2015 22:33
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qbert posted:Please stop declaring the price of a card 5 seconds after it's spoiled. It's annoying. Hey some of us need to work on our DTK portfolios and can't live without that kind of valuable information.
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Mar 4, 2015 22:34
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qbert posted:Please stop declaring the price of a card 5 seconds after it's spoiled. It's annoying. Narset: 10 dollar card. mcmagic posted:Rebounding even a Divination is great. As is rebounding any wrath or removal is pretty much a timewalk. White's removal is all conditional. I tend to dbout that its worth dropping black the possbility of rebounding End Hostilities.
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Mar 4, 2015 22:35
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Um okay but can I get the price of the japanese foil in italian lira?
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Mar 4, 2015 22:36
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I'm going to make a bold prediction: the prices of the cards are going to fluctuate.
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Mar 4, 2015 22:37
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Zoness posted:Um okay but can I get the price of the japanese foil in italian lira? If only I knew the exchange rate on defunct currencies.
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Mar 4, 2015 22:37
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Narset is better than Ugin Ugin is somehow still $30 FRF seems like one of the more widely bought small sets. I think Narset will be +$30 while she's in standard.
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Mar 4, 2015 22:38
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Gensuki posted:Narset is better than Ugin In all seriousness, I think its price is entirely dependent on additional cards in Dragons. If there's a bunch of good white removal spells, she could be good. As-is, U/W is a lovely color combo, which is why people don't' play U/W Control right now.
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Mar 4, 2015 22:40
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Gensuki posted:Narset is better than Ugin I can appreciate the logical flow of your arguments but I don't think that first statement applies in standard. The third premise is something I'd like to ask about as well - what is driving the sales of DTK more than fetches did the sales of KTK - is it dragon hype?
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Mar 4, 2015 22:40
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Angry Grimace posted:Narset: 10 dollar card. Hey remember when Ugin was spoiled and I had to point out to you that he'd be played in U/B Control and you were doubtful of that?
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Mar 4, 2015 22:41
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Gensuki posted:Narset is better than Ugin Narset will be opened more than Ugin but she will also be a modern staple and Ugin isn't...
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Mar 4, 2015 22:41
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Angry Grimace posted:If only I knew the exchange rate on defunct currencies. Should be same as it was when it went defunct, right. One potential exception would be the Greek Drachma, where there's a chance it will get re-instated at the event of Greece leaving the Eurozone. Got some prices of the dragons, in Swedish Kroner?
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Mar 4, 2015 22:41
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So, with Evolving Wilds spoiled it looks like we won't be getting enemy fetches in Dragons. However, there are 5 spare slots on the sheet since the official set size is 264. Maybe we'll get a chance of Fate-shifted fetches in the basic land slot? I'd be surprised, but it's possible that they'll announce the next fall set at Pax East this weekend. I think it's unlikely considering they'll likely cover Dragons, Origins, and MM15, but a name wouldn't hurt. This is fairly early for the announcement but not without precedence. Though, it's probably more likely we'll get a Fall '15 set announcement on MM15's release weekend.
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Mar 4, 2015 22:42
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Emerson Cod posted:So, with Evolving Wilds spoiled it looks like we won't be getting enemy fetches in Dragons. However, there are 5 spare slots on the sheet since the official set size is 264. Can someone explain how we know the number of land slots?
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Mar 4, 2015 22:43
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qbert posted:Hey remember when Ugin was spoiled and I had to point out to you that he'd be played in U/B Control and you were doubtful of that? Well, obviously, you are smarter and better at Magic than I am; I imagine you are also better looking. I will now (not) stop providing extensive reasons why this card doesn't slot right into an already non-competitive deck. Rinkles posted:Can someone explain how we know the number of land slots? The order of cards by color and type always stays the same and is listed in alphabetical order. Basic lands are numbered separately from nonbasic lands and put at the very end (there are always 3 of each basic in large sets). Therefore, if Evolving Wilds is 249/264, there aren't any non-basics after it. Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 22:50 on Mar 4, 2015 |
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Mar 4, 2015 22:45
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Reprint Path in Dragons. And then I'll be sad when it has new art that's cooler than my Event Deck/Modern Masters ones. 
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Mar 4, 2015 22:46
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Tarkir 3.33: You can (not) speculate.
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Mar 4, 2015 22:46
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Angry Grimace posted:Well, obviously, you are smarter and better at Magic than I am; I imagine you are also better looking. There is literally zero value in trying to fit a new card, especially one from a large set, into the current standard matagame.
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Zoness posted:Tarkir 3.33: You can (not) speculate.
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Evolving Wilds first appeared in the block with fetchlands and is limited fodder for drafting an ally color set with a three color set.
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Angry Grimace posted:The order of cards by color and type always stays the same and is listed in alphabetical order. Basic lands are numbered separately from nonbasic lands and put at the very end (there are always 3 of each basic in large sets). Therefore, if Evolving Wilds is 249/264, there aren't any non-basics after it. That doesn't exclude nonbasics alphabetically before Evolving Wilds. Though it does exclude the Enemy Fetches.
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mcmagic posted:There is literally zero value in trying to fit a new card, especially one from a large set, into the current standard matagame. My custom Bitterblossom playmat is pretty good in my LGS's matagame. Cernunnos posted:That doesn't exclude nonbasics alphabetically before Evolving Wilds. Though it does exclude the Enemy Fetches. Yeah, there could be a cycle that's like Temples that all have the same naming convention.
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Mar 4, 2015 22:51
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My favorite matagame is the one with this mat: gently caress that actual format tho
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Mar 4, 2015 22:53
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Angry Grimace posted:The order of cards by color and type always stays the same and is listed in alphabetical order. Basic lands are numbered separately from nonbasic lands and put at the very end (there are always 3 of each basic in large sets). Therefore, if Evolving Wilds is 249/264, there aren't any non-basics after it. Not that it matters for Zendikar fetchlands, but isn't it 248 on EW? It's tiny, maybe I'm wrong. 
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Rinkles posted:Not that it matters for Zendikar fetchlands, but isn't it 248 on EW? It's tiny, maybe I'm wrong. I was just making up a number (that seemed close to what I remembered) to explain how it worked. I don't actually know the specific numbers (I got close) other than a lot of people indicated it ruled out fetchlands unless there are less than 15 basics (presumably you need at least 4 slots behind Evolving Wilds for Marsh Flats, Misty Rainforest, Scalding Tarn, Verdant Catacombs). So it actually is 248/264 - that means its the second to last non-basic assuming 15 basic lands (since Forest would be 250). Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 22:58 on Mar 4, 2015 |
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