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Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

I had a mate with a baby blue mira 3 cylinder. He made the shittiest stovepipe manifold imaginable and stuck a turbo from what I believe was a 1.5 mitsi mirage on it. He just pressurised the bowl and the intake so the carb was theoretically self-compensating.

It drove like a 1.6.

It also had a scored bore two months later.

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EightBit
Jan 7, 2006
I spent money on this line of text just to make the "Stupid Newbie" go away.
You don't have to gently caress with the carb too much if it is still pulling from atmosphere (maybe put a richer jet in there if the flow is getting close to the max the carb can handle). I'm not sure that having fuel/air mix going through a hot turbo is too smart, though :supaburn:.

angryhampster
Oct 21, 2005

Mooseykins posted:

Probably not for everyone, but i love heavy haulage trucks. Mercedes-Benz Actros SLT, out the box ready to work, good for 250t gross train weight, in 8x8 form.

http://www.berufskraftfahrer-magazin.de/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Actros-SLT.jpg

Why don't cabovers exist in larger numbers in the US? Is it just a matter of driver comfort + space?

Nidhg00670000
Mar 26, 2010

We're in the pipe, five by five.
Grimey Drawer

EightBit posted:

You don't have to gently caress with the carb too much if it is still pulling from atmosphere (maybe put a richer jet in there if the flow is getting close to the max the carb can handle). I'm not sure that having fuel/air mix going through a hot turbo is too smart, though :supaburn:.

Draw through turbo setups aren't exactly unheard of, though.

Fender Anarchist
May 20, 2009

Fender Anarchist

angryhampster posted:

Why don't cabovers exist in larger numbers in the US? Is it just a matter of driver comfort + space?

It's more that regulations on total truck length (truck+trailer) exist in Europe that force them to package things tighter to maximize trailer size. They sacrifice the driver comfort stuff to be able to haul more payload.

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

EightBit posted:

You don't have to gently caress with the carb too much if it is still pulling from atmosphere (maybe put a richer jet in there if the flow is getting close to the max the carb can handle). I'm not sure that having fuel/air mix going through a hot turbo is too smart, though :supaburn:.

Nah the turbo was before the carb. It was literally air filter > turbo > ridiculous conical manifold thingy covering the entire carb top > carb.

You Am I
May 20, 2001

Me @ your poasting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImaiRcDGbO4

1979 Repco Reliability Trial. Full lap around Australia. Considered one of the largest gently caress ups Ford Australia ever did in motorsport.

Ford in their wisdom instead of entering the then new XD Falcon instead at the last minute put together a fleet of Ford Cortinas, with leaf spring rear suspension instead of the usual coil rear end. They were plagued with issues due to the lack of testing before the rally. They were quicker than the Holden Commodores that won the event, but they were also more fragile.

A good webpage with information on the trial: http://repcoroundaustralia.blogspot.com.au/

Fo3
Feb 14, 2004

RAAAAARGH!!!! GIFT CARDS ARE FUCKING RETARDED!!!!

(I need a hug)

Slavvy posted:

Nah the turbo was before the carb. It was literally air filter > turbo > ridiculous conical manifold thingy covering the entire carb top > carb.

Blow through turbos are a thing though too. You have to put the whole carb in an air tight plenum box so pressure is equal inside and whole of the outside of the carb, but it does work. Not many people do it, but back in the days before reliable cheap aftermarket fuel injection, some people did it if they really really wanted an intercooler.
You don't really need an intercooler for drag racing, so draw through turbo carb was what most people went for, only people doing track racing would be looking to a blow through set up.

Fo3 fucked around with this message at 09:36 on Mar 5, 2015

Throatwarbler
Nov 17, 2008

by vyelkin

Fo3 posted:

Blow through turbos are a thing though too. You have to put the whole carb in an air tight plenum box so pressure is equal inside and whole of the outside of the carb, but it does work. Not many people do it, but back in the days before reliable cheap aftermarket fuel injection, some people did it if they really really wanted an intercooler.
You don't really need an intercooler for drag racing, so draw through turbo carb was what most people went for, only people doing track racing would be looking to a blow through set up.

The Maserati Biturbo has blow through turbos I think. It caught fire a lot.

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.
Yeah, the MG Metro Turbo used a blow-through on an SU HIF44, whereas suck-through was historically very common when supercharging. No reason why either wouldn't work if done right, though I'd cassume a suck-through to be simpler to make run reasonably.


It does look a little odd if you're not expecting it, though:

KillaZilla
Jan 30, 2003
http://jalopnik.com/how-the-1-500-hp-koenigsegg-regera-hits-248-mph-without-1689181377

:stare:

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


Gorilla Salad posted:

That's cool as hell, but the upper body looks like it was entirely constructed out of sheet metal with no internal bracing.

I want one, but I also don't want to die in the slightest accident. Decisions. Decisions.


EDIT: Nope, still want one.

If you're concerned about dying you're probably not living.

\motivational words from 88h88 copyright 2015.

I dunno, I love little piece of poo poo cars. They just seem far more fun. I also love that it's a single seater and yet other people have wedged a passenger seat and a bench in the back of some of them.

Throatwarbler
Nov 17, 2008

by vyelkin




Z06 with Z07 package (track aero, ceramic brakes).

Krakkles
May 5, 2003

With what appears to be a stereotypical Corvette driver.

iwentdoodie
Apr 29, 2005

🤗YOU'RE WELCOME🤗
Saw one of those and a Tesla playing red light to red light yesterday.

Z06 sounded great, but the Tesla walked it.

revmoo
May 25, 2006

#basta

iwentdoodie posted:

Z06 sounded great, but the Tesla walked it.

Utterly humiliating. Those P85ds are embarrassing the entire auto industry.

angryhampster
Oct 21, 2005

revmoo posted:

Utterly humiliating. Those P85ds are embarrassing challenging the entire auto industry.

Jonny Nox
Apr 26, 2008




Krakkles posted:

With what appears to be a stereotypical Corvette driver.

Nah, no vanity plate.

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


How much quicker is a P85d over an S model? I've been in an S and it was fun as gently caress.

revmoo
May 25, 2006

#basta

88h88 posted:

How much quicker is a P85d over an S model? I've been in an S and it was fun as gently caress.

The base model S is 5.9 seconds to 60

The P85d is 3.2

It really is kicking the rest of the industry's rear end. I mean look at this:

quote:

Autopilot combines a forward looking camera, radar, and 360 degree sonar sensors with real time traffic updates to automatically drive Model S on the open road and in dense stop and go traffic. Changing lanes becomes as simple as a tap of the turn signal. When you arrive at your destination, Model S will both detect a parking spot and automatically park itself.

revmoo fucked around with this message at 18:00 on Mar 5, 2015

Finger Prince
Jan 5, 2007


revmoo posted:

The base model S is 5.9 seconds to 60

The P85d is 3.2

It really is kicking the rest of the industry's rear end. I mean look at this:

Well, the auto drive stuff is innovative, but the auto park and assorted radar cruise / traffic awareness is already available on most luxury cars to some extent or another, and has been for years. Tesla is really just taking the next logical leap of integrating all that sensor data and saying "if the car can technically drive itself, why not let it?"

OBAMNA PHONE
Aug 7, 2002

88h88 posted:

How much quicker is a P85d over an S model? I've been in an S and it was fun as gently caress.

1.2G longitudinal acceleration in 'insane mode'

Mooseykins
Aug 9, 2013

Triangle tits and an annoying sex voice?

Fuuuuck youuuuu sluuuut!

BraveUlysses posted:

1.2G longitudinal acceleration in 'insane mode'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQHvMU6a0uA

Love it.

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


revmoo posted:

The base model S is 5.9 seconds to 60

The P85d is 3.2

It really is kicking the rest of the industry's rear end. I mean look at this:

Autopilot combines a forward looking camera, radar, and 360 degree sonar sensors with real time traffic updates to automatically drive Model S on the open road and in dense stop and go traffic. Changing lanes becomes as simple as a tap of the turn signal. When you arrive at your destination, Model S will both detect a parking spot and automatically park itself.

Really? Haha no way. Dude I went for a drive with never mentioned all of these goodies...

Ether Frenzy
Dec 22, 2006




Nap Ghost
I'm pretty sure Tesla underreports their 0-60 times too, my buddy has a Performance S and it absolutely leaves my E92 M3 for dead despite having an on-paper time (3.9) that's "just" a half second quicker to 60.

Mooseykins
Aug 9, 2013

Triangle tits and an annoying sex voice?

Fuuuuck youuuuu sluuuut!

angryhampster posted:

Why don't cabovers exist in larger numbers in the US? Is it just a matter of driver comfort + space?

Fucknag posted:

It's more that regulations on total truck length (truck+trailer) exist in Europe that force them to package things tighter to maximize trailer size. They sacrifice the driver comfort stuff to be able to haul more payload.

I wouldn't say they sacrifice driver comfort. Maybe space, a bit. A lot of the cabs have flat floors and high roofs, so they're pretty spacious inside, but not so much as the huge sleeper cabs on American trucks. They're also not lacking in comfort, the cabs are full-width and, unlike American trucks, the cab is suspended as well as the seats.

I don't know about the overall length limits, i've only seen a few signs specifically prohibiting vehicles over a certain length.

We do get some conventionals, but they're rare. Not sure who still makes them for the Euro market, as Scania have stopped making T-Cabs. I think Iveco have some now.

Terrible Robot
Jul 2, 2010

FRIED CHICKEN
Slippery Tilde

Mooseykins posted:

I wouldn't say they sacrifice driver comfort. Maybe space, a bit. A lot of the cabs have flat floors and high roofs, so they're pretty spacious inside, but not so much as the huge sleeper cabs on American trucks. They're also not lacking in comfort, the cabs are full-width and, unlike American trucks, the cab is suspended as well as the seats.

I don't know about the overall length limits, i've only seen a few signs specifically prohibiting vehicles over a certain length.

We do get some conventionals, but they're rare. Not sure who still makes them for the Euro market, as Scania have stopped making T-Cabs. I think Iveco have some now.



But even that is clearly just a COE chassis with a halfassed nose grafted on, so I'm not even sure what the purpose of doing that was in the first place.

Unless they were going for "world's ugliest truck". Nailed it.

Mooseykins
Aug 9, 2013

Triangle tits and an annoying sex voice?

Fuuuuck youuuuu sluuuut!

Terrible Robot posted:

But even that is clearly just a COE chassis with a halfassed nose grafted on, so I'm not even sure what the purpose of doing that was in the first place.

Unless they were going for "world's ugliest truck". Nailed it.

This post makes me sad, i love T-Cabs..

How about a 730-horsepower V8 Scania?

T1g4h
Aug 6, 2008

I AM THE SCALES OF JUSTICE, CONDUCTOR OF THE CHOIR OF DEATH!

The problem I have with cabovers is, they just don't look as cool compared to your typical long nose truck. Like, you have the always classic Peterbilt 379:


Which, to me, is just stylish. Not only that, but long noses just look so menacing and evil when done right:


I love that truck :allears:

Mooseykins
Aug 9, 2013

Triangle tits and an annoying sex voice?

Fuuuuck youuuuu sluuuut!

T1g4h posted:

The problem I have with cabovers is, they just don't look as cool compared to your typical long nose truck. Like, you have the always classic Peterbilt 379:


Which, to me, is just stylish. Not only that, but long noses just look so menacing and evil when done right:


I love that truck :allears:

For American conventionals, for me it would have to be a Kenworth C500.

Colonel K
Jun 29, 2009

Terrible Robot posted:

But even that is clearly just a COE chassis with a halfassed nose grafted on, so I'm not even sure what the purpose of doing that was in the first place.

Unless they were going for "world's ugliest truck". Nailed it.

I think the snouted Scania was concieved for the Brazillian market and sold in europe to the relatively small number of people who wanted a proper looking lorry. It didn't take off as they hoped so they shut down production of it.

Finger Prince
Jan 5, 2007


I get the sentiment behind appreciating "American big-rig" styling, but I'd have a little more sympathy for complaints about fuel prices if truckers' preferred rides gave even a cursory nod towards aerodynamics. But when Volvo did that, despite it being an excellent, comfortable truck with excellent visibility (source: a part time trucker friend of mine), most truckers didn't think it looked aggressive enough and lacked a huge fuckoff chrome barn door grille.

A cool looking truck:

Finger Prince fucked around with this message at 22:17 on Mar 5, 2015

Mooseykins
Aug 9, 2013

Triangle tits and an annoying sex voice?

Fuuuuck youuuuu sluuuut!
The VN is a nice looking truck.

I'm quite fond of the Freightliner Cascadias.



I need to find a way into the US, so i can drive all around the country murdering lot lizards and pissing in bottles enjoying the view.

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.
Does anyone want to know what a 25 year old R32 GTR looks like when it's in 4.5B condition out of Japan?

If your guess is 'brand new' or 'stunning' then you'd be bang on.







Don't let the dust from the auction yard fool you, that is the prettiest R32 I've ever seen. It's up for auction today, apparently, starting bid is $14k USD. According to the auction sheet, there is one small mark on the rear fender. That's it. It's done 43,000km.

Once I get past the small matter of being unemployed, broke and on the verge of having to eat my GT4 for food, I'll be trying to get one of these things at some point in the next couple of years. They've really grown on me in the last few months.

CornHolio
May 20, 2001

Toilet Rascal
I dunno, I see Volvo semis all the drat time. I think they've sold quite well.

I personally love the International Lonestars. Sleek and blinged out in chrome!

Human Grand Prix
Jan 24, 2013

by FactsAreUseless

Butt Wizard posted:

Does anyone want to know what a 25 year old R32 GTR looks like when it's in 4.5B condition out of Japan?

If your guess is 'brand new' or 'stunning' then you'd be bang on.







Don't let the dust from the auction yard fool you, that is the prettiest R32 I've ever seen. It's up for auction today, apparently, starting bid is $14k USD. According to the auction sheet, there is one small mark on the rear fender. That's it. It's done 43,000km.

Once I get past the small matter of being unemployed, broke and on the verge of having to eat my GT4 for food, I'll be trying to get one of these things at some point in the next couple of years. They've really grown on me in the last few months.

For the love of god I really hope this one doesn't fall into the hands of ricers.

Wistful of Dollars
Aug 25, 2009

Optimus Prime was a cab-over.

bloops
Dec 31, 2010

Thanks Ape Pussy!

T1g4h posted:

The problem I have with cabovers is, they just don't look as cool compared to your typical long nose truck. Like, you have the always classic Peterbilt 379:


Which, to me, is just stylish. Not only that, but long noses just look so menacing and evil when done right:


I love that truck :allears:

I'm right with you there. When I think of a proper semi truck, it's the Peterbilt.

Mooseykins
Aug 9, 2013

Triangle tits and an annoying sex voice?

Fuuuuck youuuuu sluuuut!

CornHolio posted:

I dunno, I see Volvo semis all the drat time. I think they've sold quite well.

I personally love the International Lonestars. Sleek and blinged out in chrome!



Looks like it has a loving chrome cow catcher on the front of it.

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Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

Mooseykins posted:

This post makes me sad, i love T-Cabs..

How about a 730-horsepower V8 Scania?



Galvatron?

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