Seagull posted:

Here's the full climate research section from the report for those playing at home.


I still think it's dumb as hell and it's totally meaningless. It reminds me of back in high school where you'd be presented with a concept and have to give both benefits and drawbacks to it except now you're an adult doing that for some reason.

quote:

> take ticket
You take a ticket. Your number: B86. The number on the board says: ?. Your options are: poverty or poverty and wait.
> poverty and wait
You wait. Your options are: poverty or poverty and wait.
> poverty and wa

Sulla-Marius 88 posted:

Oh the centrelink feature is all ready to go

quote:

> approach counter
No-one is at the counter.
> complain loudly
The other people in the queue shuffle their feet a little and refuse to make eye contact.

Sanguine posted:

He's not perfect, but he's batting better than expected, and better than labour or the LNP (and hence better than the vast majority of the senate). That deserves some praise at least. The migration act thing was BS, but the guy was practically black mailed into it. Being forced into a 'save a few kids now or ...' is always going to be a hard call, particularly for someone with under 6 months in the job.

He may not be leftus christ incarnated, but he deserves some praise for not being absolute poo poo, and frankly that's as good as Aus politics gets at the moment.

Zetsubou-san posted:

centrelink is getting pretty streamlined now, you come in, someone with a fondleslab takes your details, then you sit down and wait until moss grows on you.

Turks posted:

So I'm on Newstart, and as part of Newstart you need to pretend to apply for jobs every fortnight. The last two or so times I went to Centrelink to hand in my list of jobs I'd applied for, they took the list from me then basically said "we're too busy to deal with you, go away". So I guess that's pretty streamlined, in and out in five minutes.

spamman posted:

Apparently during that debate staff from Scott Morrison's office and department passed Muir's phone number to asylum seekers in Manus and Nauru and encouraged them to get their kids to ring him and plead to him for their freedom. I can't really hold it against the guy.

auzdark posted:

Why'd you go into Centrelink when you can do it online?

auzdark posted:

Why'd you go into Centrelink when you can do it online?

katlington posted:

Tell me you have a source for this

Hansard posted:

This has been an extremely difficult process for me. I agree with the remarks made by my colleague Senator Xenophon, who I know has been working extremely hard on this issue. There are many parts of this bill that I am not comfortable with. Whilst I have not had the opportunity to visit detention centres to hear their stories personally, I cannot ignore a joint letter written by refugees on Christmas Island. In that letter, they state that, if a TPV was the only option this government was going to offer, to accept it, because the mental anguish and pain cannot go on. It was a plea, a loud cry for help.

Tonight I have also spoken with people who have worked closely with detainees on Christmas Island. They told me that this bill is not completely fair, but that the detainees are tired. They told me that the detainees have had enough and that they want out. They are desperate. She told me that they have watched the news and they know it is down to one vote, and that vote is mine.

While I was speaking to these people and they were informing me, they started to break down and cry as they were speaking about children who have been in detention since they were born who are two years old. They speak about the word 'out'. To them 'out' means going to church on occasion, and that is it. When they hear the word 'out', they cannot begin to associate it with freedom.

They told the people in detention that they rang the office of the man whose decision it was to decide whether they would be out of detention before Christmas. That man wasn't the minister for immigration; it was me. It should not be like this but it is. The crossbench should not have been put in this position, but it has.

Birb Katter posted:

Sometimes it's nice to have human contact

CrazyTolradi posted:

With the Centrelink system rigged up as it is, you can't really trust anything you need to do reporting wise online. At least I wouldn't, and I'd get a reference number for every time I reported in.

gay picnic defence posted:

Both sides of the media have been attacking Abbott hysterically whereas the Left gave Gillard a much easier run. So many of the recent attacks on Abbott have been unfounded. Blaming him for insulting Indonesia leading to no clemency on the Bali 9 tying leaders, ignoring that nothing he could do absolutely save them, which their president said time and time again, irrefutably unfounded claims that he wanted a unilateral invasion of Iraq, not even reporting on the legitimate critisisms of Trigg and her children in detention inquiry/witchhunt, blaming him for booking a male only club room for a liberal women's event when he had nothing to do with it, attacking Abbott for having numerous flags behind him during a speach when the same media were silent when Rudd and Gillard did exactly the same thing, claiming business has lost confidence in Abbott but they only spoke to one person, spinning an increase in the polls to a negative for him, claiming over and over that Turnbull has the numbers to be the PM when he never did and many more over only the last few weeks. Gillard never copped anything like this yet she still called an enquiry into the media and came very close to establishing a government run media regulator to regulate "bias" in private media. She was simply incompetent, Rudd was a psycho but much better. Abbotts done a fair bit wrong but he's not the pantomime villan he's been made out to be.

Zetsubou-san posted:

katlington posted:

Tell me you have a source for this

tithin posted:

It's a subtle prompt to elaborate.

thatfatkid posted:

The ALP get a few bad polls (which i'm fairly certain were still showing the ALP ahead with 2PP) after a concerted effort by mining companies re: the Mining Super Profits Tax and the LNP re: going into debt during the GFC. They then panic and knife Kevin Rudd, the person who they built their entire 2007 election campaign around and proceed to water down the Mining Super Profits Tax after Julia Gillard "consulted" with the mining companies.

gay picnic defence posted:

Both sides of the media have been attacking Abbott hysterically whereas the Left gave Gillard a much easier run. So many of the recent attacks on Abbott have been unfounded. Blaming him for insulting Indonesia leading to no clemency on the Bali 9 tying leaders, ignoring that nothing he could do absolutely save them, which their president said time and time again, irrefutably unfounded claims that he wanted a unilateral invasion of Iraq, not even reporting on the legitimate critisisms of Trigg and her children in detention inquiry/witchhunt, blaming him for booking a male only club room for a liberal women's event when he had nothing to do with it, attacking Abbott for having numerous flags behind him during a speach when the same media were silent when Rudd and Gillard did exactly the same thing, claiming business has lost confidence in Abbott but they only spoke to one person, spinning an increase in the polls to a negative for him, claiming over and over that Turnbull has the numbers to be the PM when he never did and many more over only the last few weeks. Gillard never copped anything like this yet she still called an enquiry into the media and came very close to establishing a government run media regulator to regulate "bias" in private media. She was simply incompetent, Rudd was a psycho but much better. Abbotts done a fair bit wrong but he's not the pantomime villan he's been made out to be.

Adnar posted:

You're conveniently missing how the government had ground to a halt because Rudd was becoming a Howard Hughes control freak and wouldn't sign off on anything hth

Doctor Spaceman posted:

Gonski and NDIS: Coalition policies.

Adnar posted:

You're conveniently missing how the government had ground to a halt because Rudd was becoming a Howard Hughes control freak and wouldn't sign off on anything hth

PaletteSwappedNinja posted:

Remember how the media obsessed over Rudd's paranoia and insane micromanagement while uncritically pushing Abbott as a future leader. Remember how they started doing it all over again but now its Abbott and Turnbull. Rmemeber the time Chris Kenny hosed a dog

Gorilla Salad posted:

Post it here when you do, please. This seems like the good stuff.

PaletteSwappedNinja posted:

Remember how the media obsessed over Rudd's paranoia and insane micromanagement while uncritically pushing Abbott as a future leader

thatfatkid posted:

Ah Gonski. Let's ignore most of the recommendations and defund universities to pay for primary schools what a wonderful idea.

Doctor Spaceman posted:

Cutting higher education was a dumb idea but the policy itself wasn't, and given how much the Coalition has tried to back out of it it's clearly not the kind of policy they're happy with.

thatfatkid posted:

I don't give a poo poo about Enews level personality gossip. The ALP under Rudd had ALP policies, the ALP under Gillard had LNP policies.

Sulla-Marius 88 posted:

I definitely agree with that not-LNP shill, this coming election I've decided to vote Tony Abbott into power and say goodbye to that fraud Liar Lardo. There's no way they can lose, I just know 2014 is gonna be a way better year

Gentleman Baller posted:

Tripling of the tax free threshold, ratifying the Kyoto treaty, plain packaging of cigarettes. All things that the Coalition would have done of course

thatfatkid posted:

Did you just call me a LNP shill?