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Absurd Alhazred posted:I call it racist. I don't call it "genocide" because as a Belgian, you should know that has a very specific meaning.
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Matoi Ryuko posted:I thought the rationalization for the German people was that they didn't know it was going on? I don't know really. But hey, who am I to judge, we threw the Japanese in Internment camps so how much better than Israel are we? That's the rationalization, but in actual reality people just didn't give a poo poo because they didn't see the gas chambers personally.
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Matoi Ryuko posted:But hey, who am I to judge, we threw the Japanese in Internment camps so how much better than Israel are we? we did eventually stop bombing the japanese
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Yeah, please. I'm going to stop now on my side of things. Sorry for contributing to yet another derail in the Chat Thread that is supposed to be about making fun of MIGF. Genocide of black jews 
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Mar 5, 2015 17:55
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One wonders why if we were willing to bomb all of Europe and Japan into ash and totally rebuild all of it why didn't we do that with Iraq. edit: The rebuilding part, not the ash part.
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Venom Snake posted:One wonders why if we were willing to bomb all of Europe and Japan into ash and totally rebuild all of it why didn't we do that with Iraq. liberals (marshall, truman) vs. conservatives (wolfowitz, rumsfeld)
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Mar 5, 2015 17:57
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Venom Snake posted:One wonders why if we were willing to bomb all of Europe and Japan into ash and totally rebuild all of it why didn't we do that with Iraq. whites get aid
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Mar 5, 2015 17:58
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Actually America spent a fuckton on all that stuff in Iraq, but problematically it entrusted its funds to private business to do things. Full Communism, friends.
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Mar 5, 2015 18:00
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we have built so much stuff in iraq. or at least spent so much money that was supposed to maybe build stuff, or something. the government gave a lot of rich people more money definitely. stop asking questions
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Mar 5, 2015 18:00
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I like using words to express what they mean, rather than for shock value, and make accusations that are substantiated, because I don't only talk to an echo-chamber of people who hate Israel and/or American foreign policy, and I would rather, when I make accusations or critique people or policies, be able to confidently back my poo poo up instead of getting into heated ad hominems and waffle on the details. Some people here seem to think that that is the height of Zionist American Exceptionalist Racism. That is their prerogative, because we live in America, and people are allowed to hold and express wrong opinions. 
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Mar 5, 2015 18:01
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What does genocide mean
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Absurd Alhazred posted:I like using words to express what they mean, rather than for shock value, and make accusations that are substantiated, because I don't only talk to an echo-chamber of people who hate Israel and/or American foreign policy, and I would rather, when I make accusations or critique people or policies, be able to confidently back my poo poo up instead of getting into heated ad hominems and waffle on the details. Some people here seem to think that that is the height of Zionist American Exceptionalist Racism. That is their prerogative, because we live in America, and people are allowed to hold and express wrong opinions. heated ad hominems heated ad hominems heated ad hominems
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How can we ever figure it out
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Disinterested posted:Actually America spent a fuckton on all that stuff in Iraq, but problematically it entrusted its funds to private business to do things. At this point I'm honestly tired of people crowing communism, not just because I don't believe it will work (human nature, bruh, it'll end up poorly all the time), but because I want to see someone come up with something new and more relevant to a world in which the global market dominates everything. Karl Marx is loving dead and dust, why not do something new.
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Absurd Alhazred posted:That is their prerogative, because we live in America, and people are allowed to hold and express wrong opinions. like being some weird black jew genocide apologist?
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euphronius posted:What does genocide mean Helpfully many countries signed a treaty defining it: quote:Article II: In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
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Absurd Alhazred posted:I like using words to express what they mean, rather than for shock value, and make accusations that are substantiated, because I don't only talk to an echo-chamber of people who hate Israel and/or American foreign policy, and I would rather, when I make accusations or critique people or policies, be able to confidently back my poo poo up instead of getting into heated ad hominems and waffle on the details. Some people here seem to think that that is the height of Zionist American Exceptionalist Racism. That is their prerogative, because we live in America, and people are allowed to hold and express wrong opinions. You need a step ladder to get on that cross?
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nutranurse posted:At this point I'm honestly tired of people crowing communism, not just because I don't believe it will work (human nature, bruh, it'll end up poorly all the time), but because I want to see someone come up with something new and more relevant to a world in which the global market dominates everything. Karl Marx is loving dead and dust, why not do something new. communism existed before marx and tbh his theories aren't all that great
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Raskolnikov38 posted:communism existed before marx and tbh his theories aren't all that great gently caress Proudhon and Owen, they were soft.
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euphronius posted:What does genocide mean Apparently anything bad a Jew does. When a Jewish dentist takes out your tooth and breaks another one by accident, aren't they genociding you just a little bit? 
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Raskolnikov38 posted:communism existed before marx and tbh his theories aren't all that great yeah but you cant act as if the internet proponents of communism aren't barking up marx's tree to the exclusion of all others. he's practically a meme.
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nutranurse posted:At this point I'm honestly tired of people crowing communism, not just because I don't believe it will work (human nature, bruh, it'll end up poorly all the time), but because I want to see someone come up with something new and more relevant to a world in which the global market dominates everything. Karl Marx is loving dead and dust, why not do something new. There is nothing new under the sun.
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Apparently anything bad a Jew does. When a Jewish dentist takes out your tooth and breaks another one by accident, aren't they genociding you just a little bit? Why do Jewish dentists want to genocide my tartars?
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Apparently anything bad a Jew does. When a Jewish dentist takes out your tooth and breaks another one by accident, aren't they genociding you just a little bit? you are losing this 'argument' fyi, i highly recommended conceding defeat
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Apparently anything bad a Jew does. When a Jewish dentist takes out your tooth and breaks another one by accident, aren't they genociding you just a little bit? Heated ad hominems? Heated ad hominems.
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Definition of the word?Absurd Alhazred posted:Apparently anything bad a Jew does. When a Jewish dentist takes out your tooth and breaks another one by accident, aren't they genociding you just a little bit? I think it was defined tho The word
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i mean like only SOME of those jewish dcotors were forcible sterilizing them but others were just being intentionally misleading or leaving out pertinent information guys its totally not a big deal
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nutranurse posted:At this point I'm honestly tired of people crowing communism, not just because I don't believe it will work (human nature, bruh, it'll end up poorly all the time), but because I want to see someone come up with something new and more relevant to a world in which the global market dominates everything. Karl Marx is loving dead and dust, why not do something new. well, you need neither Full Communism nor Novel Solutions to deal with a lot of this poo poo: you need a somewhat efficient and transparent bureaucracy that is not constantly looking for every possible excuse to turn over its essential functions to corporate interests the failings of the iraqi rebuild are pretty straightforward and well-documented, so "let's do not that' is a fair blueprint PupsOfWar fucked around with this message at 18:09 on Mar 5, 2015 |
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nutranurse posted:At this point I'm honestly tired of people crowing communism, not just because I don't believe it will work (human nature, bruh, it'll end up poorly all the time), but because I want to see someone come up with something new and more relevant to a world in which the global market dominates everything. Karl Marx is loving dead and dust, why not do something new. The global market has been a dominant force in political economy for centuries, imo. Marx was and is still relevant.
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Raskolnikov38 posted:you are losing this 'argument' fyi, i highly recommended conceding defeat Typical heated ad hominem. 
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Apparently anything bad a Jew does. When a Jewish dentist takes out your tooth and breaks another one by accident, aren't they genociding you just a little bit? Only person tying genocide exclusively to judaism is you, but that's like Israeli internet Argument Defense 101--make Israel's crimes out to be the crimes of all jews ever. No. They're not. They're just the crimes of the Israeli State. Jews are actually p cool and not all of them are racist genocidal shitheads like you will find with alarming frequency in Israel!
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Raskolnikov38 posted:you are losing this 'argument' fyi, i highly recommended conceding defeat I'm moving away from this argument because all y'all are not actually interested in seriously engage in it, and this isn't the I/P thread, where I already had this argument and SedanChair lost it, which is why he is revamping it here instead, as he was banking on people being unaware of my posting history on this subject and not knowing he'd been owned before. What I am going to do is not engage in this stupidity further because I have actual work to do. If anybody's actually interested in knowing more, go to the I/P thread, click the "?" by my name, look for this argument there, and judge for yourselves.
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beautiful little heated ad hominem. but seriously, dont do it again
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Haha I was right about black jew genocide before and I'm still right, I just got sick of your bleatingAbsurd Alhazred posted:I like using words to express what they mean, rather than for shock value, and make accusations that are substantiated, because I don't only talk to an echo-chamber of people who hate Israel and/or American foreign policy, and I would rather, when I make accusations or critique people or policies, be able to confidently back my poo poo up instead of getting into heated ad hominems and waffle on the details. Some people here seem to think that that is the height of Zionist American Exceptionalist Racism. That is their prerogative, because we live in America, and people are allowed to hold and express wrong opinions. Oh I don't think any of us have called your confidence into question, you seem quite convinced w/r/t the elaborate lattice of plausible deniability you have constructed
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Grand Theft Autobot posted:The global market has been a dominant force in political economy for centuries, imo. Marx was and is still relevant. Yeah, but no?  You can't really believe that the global market of today is at all like or resembling the global market of the 19th century.
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Apparently anything bad a Jew does. When a Jewish dentist takes out your tooth and breaks another one by accident, aren't they genociding you just a little bit? Put a few Palestinians into an giant internment camp and all of a sudden we're the bad guys???? What's the big deal!!
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Absurd Alhazred posted:I'm moving away from this argument because all y'all are not actually interested in seriously engage in it, and this isn't the I/P thread, where I already had this argument and SedanChair lost it, which is why he is revamping it here instead, as he was banking on people being unaware of my posting history on this subject and not knowing he'd been owned before. Stop heating the rear end homilies!!
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