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Dr. Killjoy posted:There's Garth Ennis' remarkaby restrained Spidey-story he did for Tangled Web of Spider-Man (trades of which are remarkably cheap on Amazon and also has that Flowers for Rhino story). Also it involves yet another spider-person being created as a result of Peter's original lab accident. Grim Hunt from 4 or so years back was pretty good. You don't need to read the several stories before it but they all are connected to the Kraven family either intentionally or incidentally leading old villains of Spideys to him to wear him down. You should also read Yost's Scarlet Spider series. Just cause.
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And hey, if you liked Last Hunt you should probably find The Soul of the Hunter OGN. I always thought it put Pete in a good place about all his trauma.
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Feb 27, 2015 03:27
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So now that they're not bound by crossover law to pay attention to the main title, what are the odds on any of the writers of the other spider-books (2099, Silk, Gwen) paying attention to Slott's dumb "oh man everybody's spider-sense is totally shot" thing from the latest issue?
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Feb 27, 2015 04:27
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TwoPair posted:So now that they're not bound by crossover law to pay attention to the main title, what are the odds on any of the writers of the other spider-books (2099, Silk, Gwen) paying attention to Slott's dumb "oh man everybody's spider-sense is totally shot" thing from the latest issue? Silk maybe is? Although hers seems oversensitive more than anything. What with Cindy picking up on emotional breakups and minor accidents. And... Really? He's back to that well? He really hates the spider-sense, huh?
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Feb 27, 2015 04:34
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I want to add that I love how incredibly blasé everyone is about an entire universe poofing out of reality. Especially when the guy who's job is to oversee that poo poo admits he has no idea what just happened.
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Feb 27, 2015 04:38
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Pureauthor posted:I want to add that I love how incredibly blasé everyone is about an entire universe poofing out of reality. Especially when the guy who's job is to oversee that poo poo admits he has no idea what just happened. Well to be fair universes have been poofing out of reality, and literally crashing into our reality, for several months now so...
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Feb 27, 2015 05:45
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TwoPair posted:So now that they're not bound by crossover law to pay attention to the main title, what are the odds on any of the writers of the other spider-books (2099, Silk, Gwen) paying attention to Slott's dumb "oh man everybody's spider-sense is totally shot" thing from the latest issue? Since Miguel never had Spider Sense in the first place (gently caress youuu Slott) I don't really care.
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Feb 27, 2015 05:54
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I'm still pretty underwhelmed by Spider Verse but the epilogue was pretty nice, I assume we will see Ock return eventually (whether is as Superior or Octavius is anyone guess). Although turning Karn into the Weaver through a stable time loop is kind of a downer story. Everything will repeat forever and ever.
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TheJoker138 posted:Well to be fair universes have been poofing out of reality, and literally crashing into our reality, for several months now so... Well yeah, but that's something we as readers know about. To Spider-Man in universe, this should be big news.
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Feb 27, 2015 06:53
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TwoPair posted:So now that they're not bound by crossover law to pay attention to the main title, what are the odds on any of the writers of the other spider-books (2099, Silk, Gwen) paying attention to Slott's dumb "oh man everybody's spider-sense is totally shot" thing from the latest issue? Having no spider-sense would at least explain satisfactorily why Silk and Peter aren't drawn to each other anymore, if they want to do that.
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Feb 27, 2015 15:16
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Oh. I'm not reading ASM, and I took 'shot' to mean 'not working right'. If Slott's literally gone back to the well of no spider-sense, then Silk's ignoring it too. Like, SUPER ignoring it by going the other way. Like I said, in her title, hers is way too good, like she goes out in costume and it turned out it was being triggered by a girl having a traumatic fight with her boyfriend.
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Feb 27, 2015 15:39
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TwoPair posted:So now that they're not bound by crossover law to pay attention to the main title, what are the odds on any of the writers of the other spider-books (2099, Silk, Gwen) paying attention to Slott's dumb "oh man everybody's spider-sense is totally shot" thing from the latest issue? When did this happen.
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Waterhaul posted:When did this happen.  Okay I phrased it poorly their spider-sense is "diminished"
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Feb 27, 2015 16:08
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To be honest that just seemed to be more of an excuse to get Julia out of her coma/not have her know the future whenever Pete catches up with her.
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Feb 27, 2015 16:15
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Waterhaul posted:To be honest that just seemed to be more of an excuse to get Julia out of her coma/not have her know the future whenever Pete catches up with her. Then why have someone specifically say "You mean our Spider-Sense?"
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Feb 27, 2015 16:41
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Because Spider Sense is what she uses to see into the future and is shown a couple of pages earlier in the issue waking from her coma when Ock damages it. It's very clear there will be minor power stuff but at no point do people lose their Spider-Sense. Kaine will probably come out of it different too since he's used his Spider-Sense to see into the future as well.
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Feb 27, 2015 16:44
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I feel like Jessica should be snickering behind her hand at that. "Suckers, I don't have any bullshit precognition powers anyway!"
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Feb 27, 2015 16:44
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notthegoatseguy posted:Grim Hunt from 4 or so years back was pretty good. You don't need to read the several stories before it but they all are connected to the Kraven family either intentionally or incidentally leading old villains of Spideys to him to wear him down. Of course Grim Hunt itself brings Kraven back to life, undoing a bunch of the pathos of Kraven's Last Hunt as well as pointlessly kills off the (albeit obscure) third Spider-Woman to resurrect another member of his family, who then dies again at the end of the story. But I will second that Scarlet Spider is great.
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Feb 27, 2015 17:30
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It's kind of hard to see this week's issue of Spider-Woman as the fifth issue of the book, because it's so dramatically different from the last four issues, in every way, that it's easier just to look at those as a separate Spider-Verse tie-in miniseries. I liked it, though. The art was pretty and the story was paced well. I don't really know that much about 616 Jess, but I'm warming up to her. If Silk, Spider-Gwen and Spider-Woman stay like they are now—clever street-level stories with really good art—then I'll just keep supporting those comics and stop giving a gently caress about Peter entirely.
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Yes, Spider-Woman was great. I know people hate on Hopeless for those books he wrote that I never read but this was good stuff. All of the Spider books are fun right now, it's a good time to be a Spider fan.
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The art in Spider-Woman was nice but the book really needs someone other than Hopeless. It really felt like all the worst ways to try a soft reboot. Like when Carol got a new costume there wasn't her commenting about Manara covers in the book, they just went and did it. That and Jess' characterization feels completely off, well when she wasn't explaining to the audience how she had to change her life "just cos". It just all feels very forced, along with trying the Superior Foes route of using the Z-list superheros are goofy thing, but again Superior pulled it off.
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See, I liked that tone here, but hated it in Ant-Man. So maybe I just don't like Spencer?
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I really wanted to like Spider-woman this week but something about it just felt off putting.
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Gaz-L posted:See, I liked that tone here, but hated it in Ant-Man. So maybe I just don't like Spencer? Perhaps. Because while I didn't dislike Spider-Woman, I'd say that Ant-Man sure hits the kind of tone Spider-Woman seems to be going for much better. And if you're gonna do the whole "Z-list supervillains are weird" thing then yeah, Superior Foes basically is a master class. TwoPair fucked around with this message at 07:31 on Mar 5, 2015 |
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Mar 5, 2015 07:29
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Spencer and Hopeless are not writers anyone should hesitate to dislike.
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Deadpool posted:Yes, Spider-Woman was great. I know people hate on Hopeless for those books he wrote that I never read but this was good stuff. All of the Spider books are fun right now, it's a good time to be a Spider fan. Lurdiak posted:Spencer and Hopeless are not writers anyone should hesitate to dislike. As always when people complain about Hopeless I need to chime in that he wrote X-Force just recently, which was a pretty entertaining series. He can do good stuff if he sets his mind to it. It's just always the question if you get X-Force-Hopeless or Avengers Arena-Hopeless. And Spencer wrote Superior Foes. Anyone who hates that is suspect anyway.
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Decius posted:As always when people complain about Hopeless I need to chime in that he wrote X-Force just recently, which was a pretty entertaining series. He can do good stuff if he sets his mind to it. It's just always the question if you get X-Force-Hopeless or Avengers Arena-Hopeless. Superior foes wrapped up far to quickly 
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Mar 5, 2015 09:29
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They are both hit or miss. That's fine, lots of people are like that. Loeb kept doing terrible things in the name of a dead boy named Sam but once he started writing about a live one he knocked it out of the park. Apparently Dan Slott wrote something good once. Bendis. These things happen.
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Sorry, guys, Fraction's X-Men wasn't very good, so I'm gonna have to take a pass on this Hawkeye thing I keep hearing about, just too much of a bad taste in my life.
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Probably Magic posted:Sorry, guys, Fraction's X-Men wasn't very good, so I'm gonna have to take a pass on this Hawkeye thing I keep hearing about, just too much of a bad taste in my life. Read iron fist. If you like that you'll like Hawkeye.
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notthegoatseguy posted:Read iron fist. If you like that you'll like Hawkeye. I was being sarcastic about the whole, "Author did one bad book, won't ever read anything ever again," attitude. Hawkeye is extremely good.
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Mar 5, 2015 22:17
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Hopeless has some things that really annoy me. Like last issue when he had an actual female character say they weren't going to be fridged. It was a terrible line and he's super clumsy with his 4th wall poo poo. I wish he would avoid that and just write. I really enjoyed his X-Men Season One graphic novel.
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Codependent Poster posted:Hopeless has some things that really annoy me. Like last issue when he had an actual female character say they weren't going to be fridged. It was a terrible line and he's super clumsy with his 4th wall poo poo. I wish he would avoid that and just write. I really enjoyed his X-Men Season One graphic novel. Holy poo poo, in Spider-woman #4?
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Rhyno posted:Holy poo poo, in Spider-woman #4? Yep.  Even worse, it was Gwen talking about her alternate self. Just loving terrible.
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Mar 6, 2015 02:29
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On the other hand, I really liked the scenes later in that issue between Jess and Carol. Especially Carol's reaction to Jessica saying she thinks a new costume might be in the cards.
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Codependent Poster posted:Yep. "Fridged off a bridge." Jesus Christ.
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Mar 6, 2015 02:33
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I know it's a total coincidence, but I was tickled that during her conversation with Carol about ditching the costume she says she hates donuts. When she puts back on her costume in the first arc of Bendis' New Avengers, Jess says she's done with donuts, and uses them to bribe imprisoned super villains.
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Codependent Poster posted:Hopeless has some things that really annoy me. Like last issue when he had an actual female character say they weren't going to be fridged. It was a terrible line and he's super clumsy with his 4th wall poo poo. I wish he would avoid that and just write. I really enjoyed his X-Men Season One graphic novel. I laughed at the line. It was clever.
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JohnnyCanuck posted:I laughed at the line. It was clever. How is it clever? Unless Gwen knows she's a comic book character it's a lovely line the author forced in to try to be hip and meta. If your girlfriend or wife get murdered you're not going to say they got fridged. Because it's a term used for comic book characters.
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Dead Gwen Stacy is not Gwen Stacy: Spider-Woman's girlfriend or wife. All Gwen Stacy: Spider-Woman knows about Dead Gwen Stacy is that she is Dead, and thus Gwen Stacy: Spider-Woman may be more likely to make dorky comments about it in casual conversation. It's not like it's been established that nobody in Gwen Stacy: Spider-Woman's universe knows what the term "fridging" is.
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