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It's violence made cartoonish by being so over-the-top. You can't really do that with rape.
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Milky Moor posted:I personally think it's an interesting commentary on games that you can have a game where you brutally and graphically murder people, police officers, dogs, prisoners, unarmed people, wounded people, people who're begging for their lives and where you can gouge out people's eyes, beat them in the head with a bat until their brains fall out, burn them with boiling water, slash their throats, kick their head in against a wall, cut their limbs off and generally violently execute everyone you come across and that is perfectly fine. But the moment you throw in a scene of sexual violence (in a scene that assists and demonstrates some of the themes in the game no less) people flip out. I don't know about you, but I wouldn't really want to play a game with a tagline like "Do you like raping other people?"
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Mar 5, 2015 22:24
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Zaphod42 posted:Are you seriously using 'triggering' in an unironic sense? We're discussing a rape scene. Rape is a thing that people get real-deal no-poo poo PTSD from. It's not like he's saying "tw: water" or something.
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Mar 5, 2015 22:26
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Jizz Festival posted:It's violence made cartoonish by being so over-the-top. You can't really do that with rape. sure you can
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Mar 5, 2015 22:28
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Veib posted:I don't know about you, but I wouldn't really want to play a game with a tagline like "Do you like raping other people?" you wouldn't play a fun game?
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Mar 5, 2015 22:29
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LORD OF BUTT posted:We're discussing a rape scene. Rape is a thing that people get real-deal no-poo poo PTSD from. It's not like he's saying "tw: water" or something. who cares
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Mar 5, 2015 22:29
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I'm sure people get PTSD from murder and war and tons of other poo poo. Shut the gently caress up already
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Mar 5, 2015 22:29
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The "isn't murder worse then rape???" argument is bullshit everytime it gets brought up.
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Mar 5, 2015 22:41
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WickedHate posted:The "isn't murder worse then rape???" argument is bullshit everytime it gets brought up. well, for sure, murder is worse than rape
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Mar 6, 2015 03:11
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WickedHate posted:The "isn't murder worse then rape???" argument is bullshit everytime it gets brought up. Fake real murder is probably worse than fake fake rape.
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Mar 6, 2015 03:15
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but murder rape is obviously the worst
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Mar 6, 2015 03:19
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Good to see that the stillborn YCS clone is so dead that they have to resort to trolling the real thread just so they have something to titter about back at the p'zone.
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Mar 6, 2015 03:33
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there are literally zero problems with a game having a rape scene in it
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Mar 6, 2015 03:33
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Get this loving nonsense out the Hotline Miami thread
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Mar 6, 2015 03:35
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Broseph Brostar posted:Achievement Unlocked: Raped and Killed a girl in 1980 Unlocks the Something Awful Forums Moderator achievement.
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Mar 6, 2015 03:43
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DolphinCop posted:yes i'm sorry that the sadbrain cultural marxists on tumblr et al have so thoroughly wrecked your opinion on what is and isn't appropriate to be included in a given work of media that you see a film such as A Clockwork Orange and go, this is too problematic for me
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Mar 6, 2015 03:49
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Mar 6, 2015 03:54
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Scrub-Niggurath posted:Can't wait 2 rape
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Mar 6, 2015 03:58
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Zaphod42 posted:the fact that the game has the option to disable it kinda catches them red-handed. Clearly they recognize themselves that there's some issue. Cactus's post explains his opinion of the whole thing pretty well: http://forums.tigsource.com/index.php?topic=35390.msg941073#msg941073
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Falsum posted:Cactus's post explains his opinion of the whole thing pretty well: http://forums.tigsource.com/index.php?topic=35390.msg941073#msg941073 "Stanley Kubrick did. David Lynch did. Alejandro Jodorowsky did. Mel Gibson did. Quentin Tarantino did. Hitchcock did. Sergio Leone did. Trey Parker did. Seth McFarlane did. Ridley Scott did. Akira Kurosawa did. Clint Eastwood did. Oliver Stone did. Frank Miller did. Alan Moore did. Zack Snyder did. Elem Klimov did." I like how he has Trey Parker and Seth McFarlane in there too.
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Jizz Festival posted:You're attempting to compare non-art to art. Apples to oranges, dude. can i get a trigger warning on this post
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Jizz Festival posted:You're attempting to compare non-art to art. Apples to oranges, dude. What makes games non-art? The vast majority are not good art, but this is the case for movies and books as well.
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Mar 6, 2015 04:08
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Falsum posted:What makes games non-art? The vast majority are not good art, but this is the case for movies and books as well. I would argue that games like Far Cry 4 are not art because they are made by thousands of people with no one real visionary behind them steering the ship, for purely commercial reasons. Well, maybe not "not art" but definitely low art. Hotline Miami is made by like two dudes who clearly have something to say, though. So it's art for sure.
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WickedHate posted:I'm just saying, if people that didn't like it didn't get up in arms about it, neither would the ones who do like it. It's disturbing, but it's not real. Best to just let it exist as a strange niche instead of drawing so much attention to it and prodding it's audience into being more vocal. In other news perturbator is good and there's five days till this game comes out
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Mar 6, 2015 04:17
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LORD OF BUTT posted:We're discussing a rape scene. Rape is a thing that people get real-deal no-poo poo PTSD from Unlike violence
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NickRoweFillea posted:In other news perturbator is good and there's five days till this game comes out The best part about this is it's not even like from years and years ago, it's from a month ago. The guy vehemently opposed to the depiction of rape in any fictional media in any context because it is a trauma inducing experience has been probated/banned repeatedly within the past month for advocating the existence of anime child pornography (and by extension anime child rape since you know, consent laws) under the banner "It's not real!"
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Mar 6, 2015 04:21
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Cowcaster posted:The guy vehemently opposed to the depiction of rape in any fictional media in any context because it is a trauma inducing experience Are you loving reading my posts at all? WickedHate posted:I don't mind the scene being in myself, and I really like this element of the story. The issue of the digital comic that had "the Pig Butcher" murdering a bunch of innocent people really pissed me off because I thought they were retconning Jacket's story, but then the last page revealed it was the movie and it suddenly made a lot of sense. Very deep. WickedHate posted:I just think it's cool they put in a warning and the ability to skip it.
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Mar 6, 2015 04:29
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WickedHate posted:Are you loving reading my posts at all? trigger warning: anime pedophile, hypocrite
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Mar 6, 2015 04:31
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Cowcaster posted:trigger warning: anime pedophile, hypocrite I'm not "opposed to rape in any fictional media in any context". I'm not even a guy which you seem to be assuming so maybe consider that? Christ.
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WickedHate posted:I'm not "opposed to rape in any fictional media in any context". I'm not even a guy which you seem to be assuming so maybe consider that? Christ. Yeah, obviously you're a porpoise. ...Besides, you're dodging the point. I mean I don't have anything against you in particular but c'mon.
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Cowcaster posted:trigger warning: anime pedophile, hypocrite dont forget trigger warning: plays games because of the story
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Mar 6, 2015 04:41
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Mar 6, 2015 04:42
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He's right though. It was DolphinCop who is opposed to all depictions of rape, but is also posting in a thread about one of the most violent games ever made and not seeing the disconnect in those two forms of thinking.
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WickedHate posted:I'm not "opposed to rape in any fictional media in any context". I'm not even a guy which you seem to be assuming so maybe consider that? Christ. Ok apparently I was thinking of DolphinCop and not you, but you're still on the hook for the "repeatedly supporting the existence of anime pedo porn" I don't feel like letting that slide. That means you're not a hypocrite either though, sorry.
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Cowcaster posted:That means you're not a hypocrite either though, sorry.  TheJoker138 posted:It was DolphinCop who is opposed to all depictions of rape, but is also posting in a thread about one of the most violent games ever made and not seeing the disconnect in those two forms of thinking. I'm not against all depiction of it, but equating any other kind of physical violence with sexual assault is a bad argument though. It's just different and people are gonna have to accept it. That doesn't mean the scene shouldn't be in the game or anything, but "Well it has a lot of blood so why NOT have rape" isn't right either.
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WickedHate posted:
I'd guess that people who have PTSD from being put into violent situations would take issue with you thinking their pain is somehow less than that of people who have PTSD from sexually violent situations. Like everything else, the depiction of sexual violence being offensive or not comes down to context. The stupid getting felt up QTE in Tomb Raider was terrible because it was lazy, pointless, shock value bullshit. Just like most of the non-sexual ultraviolence in that game. The scene in question in Hotline Miami 2 is actually saying something, and isn't just there for it's own sake. Them putting in the option is a good thing, because it will let people who do have PTSD issues from that kind of thing play the game, but it's not something that should be wiped from all media. All that's going to do is make it some unspoken of taboo without showing any of the actual consequences of it. But anyway, how about that Pertubator?
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TheJoker138 posted:Like everything else, the depiction of sexual violence being offensive or not comes down to context. The stupid getting felt up QTE in Tomb Raider was terrible because it was lazy, pointless, shock value bullshit. Just like most of the non-sexual ultraviolence in that game. The scene in question in Hotline Miami 2 is actually saying something, and isn't just there for it's own sake. Them putting in the option is a good thing, because it will let people who do have PTSD issues from that kind of thing play the game, but it's not something that should be wiped from all media. All that's going to do is make it some unspoken of taboo without showing any of the actual consequences of it. I completely agree with this, at least.
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Pertubator is good but it's all about Dance With The Dead. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBvViQnjRk4
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Amorphous Blob posted:ban all anime that isnt about muscle men hitting eachother. No thanks, I'm straight.
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Sleeveless posted:Good to see that the stillborn YCS clone is so dead that they have to resort to trolling the real thread just so they have something to titter about back at the p'zone. 
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