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It sounds like he wrote average fantasy but managed to get lucky and it got popular. I've picked up random books on iTunes for a dollar (or free) that've been about as well written as Kingkiller stuff and those books didn't include several hundred pages about going to school or recycling the same "met with girl/played music at a club/got in a pissing match with a shitlord noble" stuff over and over.
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Benson Cunningham posted:Has anyone seen this tragedy yet? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjo4MBWHc7w
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Benson Cunningham posted:Has anyone seen this tragedy yet? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjo4MBWHc7w Hah, I just came here to post this, did a triple take. anilEhilated posted:I knew they let themselves go once they dropped the original singer but this is a new low. gently caress you, this is the best album they've put out in a decade. 
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Rime posted:Hah, I just came here to post this, did a triple take. Nightwish is a gateway drug. Now go listen to Ne Obliviscaris and Troldhaugen. Here are the lyrics for the Nightwish song quote:One by one we light the candles of the show
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anilEhilated posted:I knew they let themselves go once they dropped the original singer but this is a new low. I used to be really into Nightwish back in '99-03, their songs have always often been about some nerdy thing (i.e. Elvenpath -> LOTR). I stopped listening after they fired Tarja because holy poo poo Annete was horrible and that was a dick move. So I haven't listened to much of their stuff in the past decade, but it seems Floor is definitely an improvement over Annette and after giving some of their new songs a listen, it isn't bad. In fact they're almost as good as before but still not quite the same and feels like it's missing something--or maybe I'm just old as gently caress now and it's not my cup of tea anymore  VVVVVV Lucky you! I wish I could have seen them in their early 00 prime and now I'll never get the chance  But yeah I'm the same with that type of music now.
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Apr 7, 2015 20:17
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I saw Nightwish live once with Tarja. It was a good show. I've sort of lost my interest in that sort of metal in the years since but I'm glad I got to see them in their prime.
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Apr 7, 2015 21:36
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Benson Cunningham posted:Has anyone seen this tragedy yet? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjo4MBWHc7w Huh. One of my students was really looking forward to seeing that band, had backstage passes and everything. Then she got a case of 'telling us about her suicidal thoughts' and everyone flipped and took away all her nice things* and made her leave**. And I'm like... yay we got a troubled teen to talk about their problems with adults who could help and we promptly made her miserable and separated her from all the things that kept her together. But now I am amused because everyone was all  "she's really into metal" and it turns out to just incredibly nerdy.*Because metal=bad. **Because liability.
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anilEhilated posted:I knew they let themselves go once they dropped the original singer but this is a new low. They've been bad since Tarja left/was booted. Weren't they also the ones that were like OMG Richard Dawkins is awesome AFTER he came out as a misogynist and pedophilia-apologist? But man, what a descent from Hans Christian Andersen to Patrick Rothfuss as a literary inspiration. Karnegal fucked around with this message at 10:47 on Apr 8, 2015 |
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Apr 8, 2015 10:44
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Ha, saw a bunch of replies and got excited. Should have known it would be metal music discussion.
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Solice Kirsk posted:Ha, saw a bunch of replies and got excited. Should have known it would be metal music discussion. You should know that you should not open this thread until
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Benson Cunningham posted:Nightwish is a gateway drug. Now go listen to Ne Obliviscaris and Troldhaugen. Holy poo poo these are both awesome. TBB: Better for non-poo poo metal suggestions than the metal thread in NMD.
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Apr 8, 2015 19:45
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Getting anything resembling quality out of a Rothfuss thread has to be some kind of record.
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This is a thing I guess: http://www.reddit.com/r/books/comments/38pdo9/im_patrick_rothfuss_word_doer_charity_maker_and/ Rothfuss is doing an AMA. And he asks himself when his next book is coming out. He is literally white knighting himself in the responses then.
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Jun 6, 2015 00:06
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He is weirder than GRRM despite being decades younger. 
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Well, Rothfuss and reddit were pretty much made for each other. edit: At least he likes Barry Hughart, I suppose. anilEhilated fucked around with this message at 10:21 on Jun 6, 2015 |
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Jun 6, 2015 10:01
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He didn't answer the one question I was really interested in. quote:Hi Patrick,
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I can answer both those questions above I think: Patrick Rothfuss is a huge weirdo and not a good writer at all
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Jun 7, 2015 13:48
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"Angry kid in High School" so Rothfuss is basically writing his teenage escapist fantasy and hoping to make millions off of it like Stephanie Meyer did with Twilight?
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Evil Fluffy posted:"Angry kid in High School" so Rothfuss is basically writing his teenage escapist fantasy and hoping to make millions off of it like Stephanie Meyer did with Twilight? Past tense. Made millions off it. Or at least a substantial amount of money.
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the JJ posted:Huh. One of my students was really looking forward to seeing that band, had backstage passes and everything. Then she got a case of 'telling us about her suicidal thoughts' and everyone flipped and took away all her nice things* and made her leave**. the best ever death metal band out of denton were a couple of guys, who'd been friends since grade school. one was named cyrus, and the other was jeff. and they practiced twice a week in jeff's bedroom. the best ever death metal band out of denton never settled on a name. but the top three contenders, after weeks of debate, were satan's fingers, and the killers, and the hospital bombers. jeff and cyrus believed in their hearts they were headed for stage lights and leer jets, and fortune and fame. so in script that made prominent use of a pentagram, they stenciled their drumheads and guitars with their names. this was how cyrus got sent to the school where they told him he'd never be famous. and this was why jeff, in the letters he'd write to his friend, helped develop a plan to get even. when you punish a person for dreaming his dream, don't expect him to thank or forgive you. the best ever death metal band out of denton will in time both outpace and outlive you. hail satan! hail satan tonight! hail satan! hail hail!
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dear patrick rothfuss, many stand-up comedians believe that if you have not performed stand-up comedy lately, you are no longer a stand-up comedian as it is a skill that requires constant practice to maintain do you still consider yourself a writer? signed, cams
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cams posted:dear patrick rothfuss, He released a book last year, though.
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Ornamented Death posted:He released a book last year, though. NOTE: I've spent the last five minutes thinking about this post, and the kind of posts you usually make on a forum like something awful. And this isn't like most of them. But thats ok. This is a post just for the people who like this sort of post. But if you don't like this post? Well this post isn't for you, and thats ok. The book he released was poo poo. But don't comment on this post. Thats what the note was for. There is no need for discussion here, thank you.
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Benson Cunningham posted:This is a thing I guess: http://www.reddit.com/r/books/comments/38pdo9/im_patrick_rothfuss_word_doer_charity_maker_and/ This is the most Rothfuss thing ever.
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Even if you ignore that novela it has only been 4 years since WMF. Plenty of authors take more time between books!
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Srice posted:Even if you ignore that novela it has only been 4 years since WMF. Plenty of authors take more time between books! Besides the novella, he's also put out at least one short story (I feel like there have been two but am too lazy to confirm).
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Srice posted:Even if you ignore that novela it has only been 4 years since WMF. Plenty of authors take more time between books! At least one, anyway.
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Trying to interpose facts between people and their dumb irrational hatred is a losing proposition.
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god bless writers that treat their craft as a profession, unlike the bearded messire rothfuss
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Blue Raider posted:god bless writers that treat their craft as a profession, unlike the bearded messire rothfuss The dude has enough money to not need to. He does a charity fundraiser every year (or more often than that) and has two kids so hes obviously pretty busy in his personal life. But when he said he had the whole thing written, or mapped out or whatever he was being deliberately misleading. I'm not bothered by that, but I can see why some people would be. Wittgen posted:Trying to interpose facts between people and their dumb irrational hatred is a losing proposition. Theres nothing irrational about people who talk poo poo about Rothfuss/GRRMs/Whoevers writing speed. They enjoy authors work, author is taking a long time thus no work for them to enjoy. And so long as you're not talking this poo poo directly to the author in question theres nothing harmful about it either. Personally I don't care that its looking like 5 years or more between book 2 and 3. Whenever I imagine book 3 I think it will have probably 10% cool stuff, maybe an explanation for the mysterious poo poo thats gone down in the present of the novel and 90% D&D adventure quests, petty feuds between Kvothe and Ambrose and hey maybe sex barbarians/vikings to go with the fairies and ninjas.
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MrFlibble posted:Theres nothing irrational about people who talk poo poo about Rothfuss/GRRMs/Whoevers writing speed. They enjoy authors work, author is taking a long time thus no work for them to enjoy. Well, it is irrational. Writing takes time. Complaining won't make it take faster. Wanting more story of a story you enjoy and being frustrated at how it's not out yet is, however, reasonable. It's reasonable to be irritated that he was incredibly over optimistic about when the next books would come out. It's reasonable to think the books have problems. It's reasonable not to like them. But that's not what the negativity in this thread looks like. It's not people being reasonable. It's people saying that Rothfuss doesn't write at all, or that he's not serious about writing. It's people shaking their head at how crazy Rothfuss is for being a little weird on reddit about a (stupid) question he's been asked dozens of times a day every day for years. It's people saying that Slow Regard is literally the worst book ever written. It's people who say Rothfuss's blog proves incontrovertibly that he is a terrible human being. (90% of his blog is either gushing about his children or raising children to build agricultural infrastructure in poor areas.) This is the dumb, irrational hate I'm talking about. I don't get the people who are crazy about Rothfuss one way or the other. I enjoy his work, but I don't get how he can be people's favorite author. I really don't get how people can have a seething hatred for him.
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Wittgen posted:It's people saying that Slow Regard is literally the worst book ever written. I can't argue anything else in your post unless you provide quotes but this stood out to me because I am certain that Slow regard isn't the worst book ever written. I am not saying it is the worst thing ever written. But I am going to be clear: Wise mans fear had serious problems that interfered with my enjoying the story as a whole but was recognizable as part of a story. Slow regard was poo poo. There is a difference between these opinions and there is a difference between poo poo and worst thing ever written. But it was poo poo.
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MrFlibble posted:NOTE: I've spent the last five minutes thinking about this post, and the kind of posts you usually make on a forum like something awful. And this isn't like most of them. But thats ok. This is a post just for the people who like this sort of post. But if you don't like this post? Well this post isn't for you, and thats ok.  Srice posted:Even if you ignore that novela it has only been 4 years since WMF. Plenty of authors take more time between books! MrFlibble posted:But when he said he had the whole thing written, or mapped out or whatever he was being deliberately misleading. MrFlibble posted:Personally I don't care that its looking like 5 years or more between book 2 and 3. Whenever I imagine book 3 I think it will have probably 10% cool stuff, maybe an explanation for the mysterious poo poo thats gone down in the present of the novel and 90% D&D adventure quests, petty feuds between Kvothe and Ambrose and hey maybe sex barbarians/vikings to go with the fairies and ninjas.
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So I guess it's not within the realm of possibility that he's grown in the many years since having written most of the books in college and realize the flaws in them that we've noted throughout and is probably rewriting the vast majority of it as a part of his revision process. You know, instead of 'loving lying'. Because that just seems much more reasonable.
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Rurutia posted:So I guess it's not within the realm of possibility that he's grown in the many years since having written most of the books in college and realize the flaws in them that we've noted throughout and is probably rewriting the vast majority of it as a part of his revision process. Also, hey, let's go back to Rothfuss in his own words: quote:April 18, 2007 So, in 2007, Rothfuss thought with all his obsession over writing the third book would be out in 2010. EDIT: If he originally wrote most of the books in college (usually a four year timeline), he's had enough time to rewrite everything in Book 3 from scratch after publishing Book 2. Face it, releasing Book 3 is not in Rothfuss' top priorities as revealed by his actions. ulmont fucked around with this message at 16:37 on Jun 11, 2015 |
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You know, I'd be perfectly fine with him taking his time to rewrite the entire thing from scratch if it'd mean it gets decent at some point. Alas, chances of that happening are rather low, so let's live in the present and enjoy the Let's Bitch About A Mediocre-To-Bad Writer Thread, long it may last.
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