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KozmoNaut posted:Why not just go all in? Funnily enough, they said the Hellcat engine wouldn't fit in the Viper. Too wide 
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Sigma X posted:Soooo, new Honda CTR. 306 turbocharged horsepower, 0-60 in 5.7, 167 MPH top speed, thirty thousand dollar price tag. Ugly as balls, or ugly as balls? Or for the same price you could get a Focus RS that has more power and is AWD. And doesn't look like rear end.
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Boaz MacPhereson posted:Funnily enough, they said the Hellcat engine wouldn't fit in the Viper. Too wide Then supercharge the V10.
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Mar 6, 2015 16:20
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What the hell is going on at Honda? That thing looks like they raided the stick-on aisle at auto zone. Fender flares from a sti? Check. Gills from a Z3/mutated fish frog? Check. Stuck on rear flares? Check. Will whomever designed the s2000 please come back? Remember when hondas all resembled that car? Late 1990's. 6th gen accord, ek civics, the cr-v. gently caress, even the Accord coupe had a nice rear end.  Now honda just makes wierd, bulbous, ugly poo poo like the crosstour.
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Mar 6, 2015 16:25
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Crosstours are hideous vehicles, but my god the interiors are nice.
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Mar 6, 2015 16:54
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Throatwarbler posted:Did you notice how the Canadian dollar has recently collapsed in value? You should probably get use to poo poo built outside of Canada costing more in the near future. At current exchange rates, a Porsche 911 starting at MSRP CAD 96k is only $77k USD - US MSRP is $84k, A 911 Turbo at MSRP CAD $172k is only $138k USD - US MSRP is $151k, and presumably you still get the standard block heater and whatever other bullshit they claim Canadians cars get to justify them being 20% more expensive back in the good days. Funny, when the Canadian dollar was higher than the US dollar prices didn't even out, let alone get cheaper than the US. 
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Hey am I hallucinating or did I just hear that someone thought the mid-2000s CR-V was some sort of automotive styling icon?
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Taco Box posted:Will whomever designed the s2000 please come back? Remember when hondas all resembled that car? Late 1990's. 6th gen accord, ek civics, the cr-v. gently caress, even the Accord coupe had a nice rear end. I always thought it was trying to remind you of the NSX.
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Mar 6, 2015 18:23
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Sigma X posted:Soooo, new Honda CTR. 306 turbocharged horsepower, 0-60 in 5.7, 167 MPH top speed, thirty thousand dollar price tag. Ugly as balls, or ugly as balls? All that hideous aero was necessary for the pointless dick waving Nurburgring record. Here's to hoping they start building that motor in the Ohio plant and put it in a sensible looking car for America. E: Honda doesn't make the Crosstour anymore. Their current design is basically fine because it's inoffensive and bland. The ridiculous CTR is an exception, what happens when they let the Brits make a track special. PeterWeller fucked around with this message at 19:13 on Mar 6, 2015 |
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Mar 6, 2015 19:09
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Phy posted:I always thought it was trying to remind you of the NSX. Baller on a budget
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Mar 6, 2015 19:33
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What a loving horrible looking pile of poo poo
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Mar 6, 2015 19:45
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I like the look of the new Honda Civic Type R and think its a step in the right direction.  But yall is right about that front end tho.
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Coredump posted:I like the look of the new Honda Civic Type R and think its a step in the right direction. at least I can tell what it is without hunting for a badge. Someone posted earlier that all medium sized cars have converged into a single, optimal shape and drat is it true.
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Mar 6, 2015 21:21
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BraveUlysses posted:What a loving horrible looking pile of poo poo Hey man, good on them for bringing back tacked on z3 gills in tyol 2015.
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Mar 6, 2015 23:16
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Taco Box posted:What the hell is going on at Honda? That thing looks like they raided the stick-on aisle at auto zone. Fender flares from a sti? Check. Gills from a Z3/mutated fish frog? Check. Stuck on rear flares? Check. I know someone who drives cars to death without giving a gently caress what they look like, to the point they drove a car for four years with garbage bag windows and weeds growing out of the 70s vinyl roof. At some point they became a honda person, and recently decided to get a new one. Even they left the dealer in disgust because they wouldn't be caught dead in one of those hideous wrecks. It takes a special brand of unsightly to make cars that good that still drive brand loyalists away, but they're doing it. It's especially bad because Mazda has great design right now.
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Mar 6, 2015 23:19
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Breakfast All Day posted:I know someone who drives cars to death without giving a gently caress what they look like, to the point they drove a car for four years with garbage bag windows and weeds growing out of the 70s vinyl roof. At some point they became a honda person, and recently decided to get a new one. Even they left the dealer in disgust because they wouldn't be caught dead in one of those hideous wrecks. It takes a special brand of unsightly to make cars that good that still drive brand loyalists away, but they're doing it. It's especially bad because Mazda has great design right now. Honda to me was always inoffensive, but not in a bad way. Some even looked really good, like 90s Civics, Integras, etc. Now they're just loving offensive, and so is Toyota/Lexus with those goddamn cow catcher front ends.
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iwentdoodie posted:Honda to me was always inoffensive, but not in a bad way. Some even looked really good, like 90s Civics, Integras, etc. Now they're just loving offensive, and so is Toyota/Lexus with those goddamn cow catcher front ends. Honda was basically BMW designs on a budget. Unfortunately, when BMW went full Bangle, Honda followed suit and welp.
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Mar 6, 2015 23:33
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Now that you say it, it makes perfect sense.
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Mar 6, 2015 23:34
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I think the new Accord, Civic, Fit and CR-V are pretty inoffensive. What other Hondas are out there that are so terrible looking?
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Holy poo poo, I just checked out the video and the Type-R is an abomination - those fender vents have to be a joke! It's like a committee studied all the lovely civic ricers of the early 2000's and based their production model off of it directly. I don't even think anyone would have perceived it as cool even in 2004. For once I have no issues with this not being US bound, give me a FoRS and call it a day. Sad that ford has so far eclipsed honda for small affordable performance cars, who woulda thunk it?
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Mange Mite posted:Honda was basically BMW designs on a budget. Unfortunately, when BMW went full Bangle, Honda followed suit and welp. For all the poo poo Bangle got, his designs have aged much better than most contemporary early 00s designs. Nowadays stuff that used to look horribly out of place like the Z4 now look well styled and distinctive without being flashy compared to a lot of the poo poo on the road now. Also, trivia time: the first BMW Bangle touched was the face lifted E46 3 series, and nowadays a lot of people love to hold those up as the last good looking 3 series.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:I think the new Accord, Civic, Fit and CR-V are pretty inoffensive. What other Hondas are out there that are so terrible looking? The Element? And do they still make the Ridgeline?
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HotCanadianChick posted:For all the poo poo Bangle got, his designs have aged much better than most contemporary early 00s designs. Nowadays stuff that used to look horribly out of place like the Z4 now look well styled and distinctive without being flashy compared to a lot of the poo poo on the road now. I'm one of those people. So what, there's only so much you can do on a facelift, the first car that he actually designed, the E65 7 series, was the worst car in the world. Not all Bangle's fault but being so ugly didn't help did it?
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Coredump posted:I like the look of the new Honda Civic Type R and think its a step in the right direction. It doesn't get much better at the other end unfortunately  The new Fit and Accord are very nice though, they managed to mostly avoid the ANGRY HEADLIGHTS/gaping maw fad. redgubbinz fucked around with this message at 03:37 on Mar 7, 2015 |
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HotCanadianChick posted:Also, trivia time: the first BMW Bangle touched was the face lifted E46 3 series, and nowadays a lot of people love to hold those up as the last good looking 3 series. E36 you mean. Ineptus Mechanicus posted:It doesn't get much better at the other end unfortunately 
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Rhyno posted:The Element? And do they still make the Ridgeline? Whoa, both of those are great looking vehicles.
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SouthLAnd posted:I'd rather have a DCT that works fine until it needs a new clutch pack every 70,000 miles (or however long they last). It's really a shame so many people (myself included) had terrible experiences with Fords Powershift DCT; when it worked as it was meant to, it was awesome. It really made regular automatics feel antiquated. Yeah I am/was a huge apologist for the Ford Powershift. It drives really well when it's working. That said my work Focus is at 90K and going back to the shop for the second time in as many weeks due to transmission warning lights/strange shifting behavior. The Ford DCTs really shine in the models that allow you to select individual gears with sport shift. The default programming in D tends to want to get into the highest gear as soon as possible and then lazily downshift if you really prod it. Having actual engine braking is excellent, though.
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There was apparently a tweet earlier revealing that the Focus RS would have 345hp but that tweet has since been deleted. That's honestly about what I was expecting, so...
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PCOS Bill posted:Whoa, both of those are great looking vehicles. I disagree sir and good day to you!
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Previa_fun posted:Yeah I am/was a huge apologist for the Ford Powershift. It drives really well when it's working. That said my work Focus is at 90K and going back to the shop for the second time in as many weeks due to transmission warning lights/strange shifting behavior. I traded the Fiesta in for the ST largely because the transmission was shuddering and acting up worse than it was 4 months ago when they had it for almost 2 weeks completely rebuilding everything to fix the shuddering at 68k miles. It had 75k miles on it when I traded it and even though Ford extended the warranty to 100k miles because of the tranny problems, I got to where I was afraid of how many problems I was going to be looking at going forward.
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fknlo posted:There was apparently a tweet earlier revealing that the Focus RS would have 345hp but that tweet has since been deleted. That's honestly about what I was expecting, so... It seemingly got lost in all the RS and GT commotion, but ford also showed the new fiesta R2 kit.  168hp from the 1.0 ecoboost.
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Dear Ford, Please sell me a regular cab shortbox '15 F-150 with the 3.5L Ecoboost. Thanks
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Throatwarbler posted:I'm one of those people. Your choices back then were the 'worst car in the world':  Or a Toyota Avalon with a Mercedes badge stuck on the hood.  The E65 has aged a lot better than Mercs and Audis from that era.
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Prescription Combs posted:Dear Ford, & 5sp?
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HotCanadianChick posted:Your choices back then were the 'worst car in the world': That ain't an E65 This is:  They've aged terribly and that isn't even the worst angle
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I think it's telling that I still see S-classes from that time regularly but it's an event when there's a pre-facelift E65. And where I live both used to be everywhere.
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Look how wrong you are about everything.The W220 looks great and is the best looking S-class of our time including the current one. I could never get over that "bustle back" look that they got starting from the W221. Reminded me of those old Cadillacs with the fake spare tire carrier in the back.  I wouldn't want to own one without a warranty but looks are definitely not a problem
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A MIRACLE posted:& 5sp? 6-speed manual gearbox 
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The 90s and early 2k bmw design language still looks sharp as hell. I was ogling a '00 m5 just the other day in a grocery store parking lot. Post bangle to now bmw's are too bulbous and rounded off for me. Maybe it's my taste because I often feel the opposite about audis. They looked kinda fat in the 90s and 00s(that bar of soap TT) but the newer ones look more lean and sharp.
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