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Whoops, guess I forgot since there was so little Alara in MMA. Even weirder that they didn't extend it to cover Innistrad then, although there's probably so much in there that needs/could use reprinting that it wouldn't fit in the set.
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forbidden lesbian posted:and now i am wickedly sad i missed it... 
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Ramos posted:She does the attrition thing ridiculously well considering she makes both players discard, can reap more card advantage via her -X at various points, fuels delve, is powered by exploit and similar such cards, etc. Even if you didn't have to flip her (which requires you to do something) to turn her into a walker, she still wouldn't be all that powerful.
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Liliana is fantastic. McMagic and Planeswalkers, like duke nukem and forever.Zero_Grade posted:Interesting that that only adds 3 blocks onto MM1 (Alara, Zendikar, Scars). There's a fair amount of reprint-worthy stuff in there though, plus maybe core sets if they want to add Titans. Eldrazi, praetors, fetches, Goblin Guide, Batterskull, Swords, Phyrexian mana stuff, whatever was in Alara... Wonder what the draft archetypes will be.
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Now we just need the next iteration of Sarkhan to be R/W to come full circle. I do think it's cool how he's base red, but never felt like he belonged to Mardu, so now he's red and the two non-Mardu colors. At least, that's how I make sense of him being part blue, which I can't think of a good reason for otherwise.
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:I suppose it'd have to play double duty with your Baby EDH deck as Zurgo Helmsmasher is an important figure in Sarkhan Lore™ and the deck would thus have to be 5 colors. true but i have no probelm with this really
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I think I'd like sarkhans ult better if it had the tooth and nail ordering clause. If I've drawn 8 cards to the point where I -8 him, chances are good that I've drawn a dragon or 2 in that timeframe and they'll be stuck in my hand. Edit: well, not stuck since I can likely cast them when I draw them, but I feel like I would have already won the game before I get to ult. Dragonstorm feels like less work than this ult, which leaves me using his first 2 abilities a lot. Good, but other sarkhan is a more reliable clock since he hits the turn he comes down. 3 turns before rug sark catches up and he's a bit more vulnerable. I'll happily eat crow if he turns out to be a staple in rug midrange though.
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qbert posted:Haha, it's actually pretty funny how much Wizards doesn't care about competitive drafting minutiae. The brand manager lady pretty clearly intercepted the question and gave a bullshit answer. Likely the actual answer to the question is something about Origins they don't want to reveal yet. I very much doubt R&D's actual response is "deal with it" since drafting with a face up card is a serious disadvantage. I assume there are more DFCs and every pack has one, just like Innistrad.
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Molybdenum posted:I think I'd like sarkhans ult better if it had the tooth and nail ordering clause. Both are very good and you want them against different decks
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Molybdenum posted:I think I'd like sarkhans ult better if it had the tooth and nail ordering clause. Read Sarkhan as though his ult doesn't exist and evaluate from there. I suspect one of the most common ways of using him will be to simply -2 him twice for 2 4/4 fliers.
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  holy poo poo thats anime ghost girl as gently caress
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mcmagic posted:Even if you didn't have to flip her (which requires you to do something) to turn her into a walker, she still wouldn't be all that powerful. You say that like killing things doesn't naturally happen in a game anyway. And no, she's not game breakingly good, she's just well suited for the color she's in at the moment which can make use of all of her abilities quite well and in a variety of ways. She's ridiculously well designed in how many different ways you can approach using her.
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Has there ever been a 3 color Walker that had a big impact on standard?
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Angry Grimace posted:I think conditional planeswalkers are cooler in theory than they likely will be in practice. Eh, I can agree with you there, but that's true of 90% of cards/mechanics. I think its a neat flavorful idea, with some cool design space to open up. From a pure flavor perspective, having the cards transform into a planeswalker on the battlefield is just neat. It evokes a piece of storyline on the table in front of you, and lets you see it happen. Competitively, I don't think it opens up very much space, but the Vorthos side of things definitely appreciates it.
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I just bought a set of Marsh Flats for my Tokens Modern deck! I ain't mad though.
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Elyv posted:Read Sarkhan as though his ult doesn't exist and evaluate from there. I suspect one of the most common ways of using him will be to simply -2 him twice for 2 4/4 fliers. Agree entirely, but in that mode, is he better than dragon speaker? Like I said, it is 3 turns before rug catches up in damage to dragon speaker. It helps that the damage is on 2 tokens rather than a single downfall target. I may proxy him up before release to test it in my deck (a straight copy of count bleck's).
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That nonlegendary clause is really random but I guess they don't want you reanimating herself, although you can still play another one from your hand so...
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mcmagic posted:Has there ever been a 3 color Walker that had a big impact on standard? This is like the second one
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RME had the best post about the Dragons cards spoiled. That is all.
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I think Sarkhan being 3 colors really hurts his playability. The fact that the three colors happen to be the least popular clan in Standard doesn't help either.
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mcmagic posted:Has there ever been a 3 color Walker that had a big impact on standard? the other 3 color walker was playable in its standard so
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mcmagic posted:Has there ever been a 3 color Walker that had a big impact on standard? No, but the last one cost eight mana.
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LordSaturn posted:No, but the last one cost eight mana. even at 8 he was playable as a 5th cruel ultimatum
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mcmagic posted:Has there ever been a 3 color Walker that had a big impact on standard? LordSaturn posted:No, but the last one cost eight mana. The ONLY one cost eight mana.
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Spiderdrake posted:Liliana is fantastic. McMagic and Planeswalkers, like duke nukem and forever. Why doesn't she add the creature type "Zombie" the thing she's reanimating. 
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mcmagic posted:Has there ever been a 3 color Walker that had a big impact on standard? Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker had the misfortune of being printed after Cruel Ultimatum, then being printed right before Detention Sphere/Sphinx's Rev/Supreme Verdict made WUx the default for control.
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RME posted:i'm really excited for what back to zeldacar will bring for my EDH decks Holy poo poo, shut up.
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I thought DFC's made draft signals a little easier to read personally. Don't pass line Bloodline Keeper unless you deck is insane.
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Angry Grimace posted:Why doesn't she add the creature type "Zombie" the thing she's reanimating. Someone else can post those god awful yugioh cards that look like the ingredients on your soup saltine cracker pack.
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Angry Grimace posted:Why doesn't she add the creature type "Zombie" the thing she's reanimating. cuz she's spending a lot of effort on it this time around as opposed to accidentally goofing like she does on her flip trigger
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Sadafenza
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Ojutai isn't as good as Stormbreath but it's probably about as close as we're going to get in this set.
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It's true that Nicol Bolas, the only three-color planeswalker, who also happens to cost eight loving mana, has seen at least fringe play as a control finisher both times he's been in Standard. The question is whether you consider that to be a big impact or not.
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Angry Grimace posted:Why doesn't she add the creature type "Zombie" the thing she's reanimating. I thought it was a deliberate flavor choice to imply that she had perfected her resurrection abilities.
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forbidden lesbian posted:Sadafenza grave of the foremost(s)
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Like why would you even compare Sarkhan to Bolas? The similarities start and end with being planeswalkers that are three colors.
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I want to play Esper with Ojutai and Narset...
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forbidden lesbian posted:Sadafenza I wonder if they're going to break up the cycle and not have a blue legend for the rare ex-khan cycle. I kinda like the idea of Taigam's power seeking suiting the Ojutai ways.
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mcmagic posted:Ojutai isn't as good as Stormbreath but it's probably about as close as we're going to get in this set. Ojutai isn't like Stormbreath in any way other than CMC though? 
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Spiderdrake posted:Same reason a lot of the charm and command stuff is a bit broad strokes - limited amount of text before it gets too small. But yeah, that would be cool.   As someone who missed the first Zendikar block and retrospectively loves the poo poo out of the Eldrazi concept, I cannot goddamn wait for fall.
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