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LordSaturn posted:It's true that Nicol Bolas, the only three-color planeswalker, who also happens to cost eight loving mana, has seen at least fringe play as a control finisher both times he's been in Standard. The question is whether you consider that to be a big impact or not. He saw play in Standard Omni-door decks. 
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mcmagic posted:Ojutai isn't as good as Stormbreath but it's probably about as close as we're going to get in this set. He's very playable. Great card, I'm happy one of them is a thing I would want to play. I wonder if a Monastery Mentor - Ephara, God of the Polis curve would be as fun as I'm imagining. Also, new Gideon obviously incoming: 
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Mar 6, 2015 22:15
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Elyv posted:Ojutai isn't like Stormbreath in any way other than CMC though? I know, a lot of people were just saying that it's pretty funny that they printed about 30 new dragons in this set and none of them are better than Stormbreath.
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Mar 6, 2015 22:15
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Arizona magic continues to be hilariously hosed up. Offered to help cover hotel costs for a local kid that Q'ed for a PT but can't afford it. His boss, a local store owner, sent me and another guy that made the offer this message this morning: Please don't offer my employees things like cash favors. It's inappropriate and you should already know that. Same for <me>, I know he isn't publicly your business partner but everyone knows he's "your guy." <pro tour hopeful> is young and doesn't understand the strings that will be attached once he accepts such a favor from you. He is in the running to be my manager and he will be hurt if he compromises the trust that he has built with me with his own efforts. Even if you tell him there are no strings attached, we both know there are. At the very minimum you are "buying his loyalty/sympathy/regard" and that's a conflict of interest. If you are really <pro tour hopeful>'s friend, and not just trying to use him, prove it by leaving him alone. It's somewhat of an issue with <other employee> too but he and I already had the discussion we needed to have and he isn't taking money from you so it's not as much of a problem there.
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Mar 6, 2015 22:16
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Elyv posted:Read Sarkhan as though his ult doesn't exist and evaluate from there. I suspect one of the most common ways of using him will be to simply -2 him twice for 2 4/4 fliers. This is pretty much how I feel. Honestly the ult is still pretty good though since I can't imagine a deck using Sarkhan wouldn't also run 4x Stormbreath. More realistically I think he might be a sideboard card in r/g devotion for messing with any deck running crux of fate.
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Mar 6, 2015 22:16
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redstormpopcorn posted:As someone who missed the first Zendikar block and retrospectively loves the poo poo out of the Eldrazi concept, I cannot goddamn wait for fall. I'm sure they'll find a reason, but shouldn't the Eldrazi (and most of Zendikar) be long gone?
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Okay but come on can you loving think before you post Supposing that 1. dragons on Tarkir are born from storms 2. Stormbreath Dragon breathes storms It follows that Stormbreath Dragon actually creates Tarkir dragons and is therefore cooler and smarter and sexier and more playable. QED
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Mar 6, 2015 22:17
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Starving Autist posted:Like why would you even compare Sarkhan to Bolas? The similarities start and end with being planeswalkers that are three colors. One of them is a dragon and the other one likes dragons!!
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Mar 6, 2015 22:17
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born on a buy you posted:Arizona magic continues to be hilariously hosed up. Offered to help cover hotel costs for a local kid that Q'ed for a PT but can't afford it. His boss, a local store owner, sent me and another guy that made the offer this message this morning: "I know this kid could go to the Pro Tour but you are severely loving up his life by compromising his future employment at my card shop. Again, you are doing this, not me."
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Mar 6, 2015 22:19
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Rinkles posted:I'm sure they'll find a reason, but shouldn't the Eldrazi (and most of Zendikar) be long gone? I think that art with Gideon squaring up with some faceless floaty-ribbed horror is new, sooooooooo
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redstormpopcorn posted:
You can cast it from outside the game by shuffling 3 specific creatures into your library from play? It's big and beefy, and has an ability where you flip 3 coins. 3 heads means destroy all creatures your opponents control, 2 means your opponents' creatures lose all abilities until end of turn, and 1 means bounce all your creatures. Kind of reminds me of an Eldrazi Spirit of the Night that's way too complicated.
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rabidsquid posted:"I know this kid could go to the Pro Tour but you are severely loving up his life by compromising his future employment at my card shop. Again, you are doing this, not me." Hahaha pretty much. That's insanely hosed up.
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neos fusions own, they just have a lot of text because they tend to use text from their components
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Rinkles posted:I'm sure they'll find a reason, but shouldn't the Eldrazi (and most of Zendikar) be long gone? In the Nissa Worldwaker story, I believe they mentioned that two of the Eldrazi had taken off from Zendikar, but one was still chilling around.
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Mar 6, 2015 22:20
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redstormpopcorn posted:I think that art with Gideon squaring up with some faceless floaty-ribbed horror is new, sooooooooo got a screenshot?
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Mar 6, 2015 22:21
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Rinkles posted:I'm sure they'll find a reason, but shouldn't the Eldrazi (and most of Zendikar) be long gone? If memory serves, part of the flavor of Zendikar is that the people and the environment there are so badass they're actually capable of tangling with dimension-spanning Cthulhu-esque abominations.
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Mar 6, 2015 22:21
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Rinkles posted:I'm sure they'll find a reason, but shouldn't the Eldrazi (and most of Zendikar) be long gone? Eh? I thought they basically took over the plane and killed everyone there, but were stuck there. Makes me wonder how it's going to look creative-wise though. If they have there being an active resistance that hasn't been completely crushed by the Eldrazi after all these years, that makes the Eldrazi seem way less scary than they're supposed to be. Rinkles posted:got a screenshot? Scroll up.
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Mar 6, 2015 22:21
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Rinkles posted:got a screenshot? Angry Grimace posted:Also, new Gideon obviously incoming:
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Rinkles posted:I'm sure they'll find a reason, but shouldn't the Eldrazi (and most of Zendikar) be long gone? No they are still trapped as of the m15 Nissan story but I would imagine the plane doesn't have much longer.
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born on a buy you posted:Arizona magic continues to be hilariously hosed up. Offered to help cover hotel costs for a local kid that Q'ed for a PT but can't afford it. His boss, a local store owner, sent me and another guy that made the offer this message this morning:
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Mar 6, 2015 22:22
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Yawgmoth posted:Is he a libertarian? Because they're the only assholes I've ever known to think that gifts always have strings attached. If I were you I'd insist on paying after that bullshit message. Seriously, I'd want to show that message to the kid to let him know exactly how his current employer thinks of him.
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Mar 6, 2015 22:23
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Might even post the email to local MTG forums or fb groups or whatever. Seems really weird.
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born on a buy you posted:Arizona magic continues to be hilariously hosed up. Offered to help cover hotel costs for a local kid that Q'ed for a PT but can't afford it. His boss, a local store owner, sent me and another guy that made the offer this message this morning: What the actual gently caress. Send the kid to the Pro Tour anyway, gently caress the other store owner.
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Mar 6, 2015 22:23
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Starving Autist posted:Seriously, I'd want to show that message to the kid to let him know exactly how his current employer thinks of him. After he gets back from the PT, I wouldn't want that poo poo on my mind during a huge competition.
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Mar 6, 2015 22:24
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Entropic posted:Eh? I thought they basically took over the plane and killed everyone there, but were stuck there. Bugsy posted:No they are still trapped as of the m15 Nissan story but I would imagine the plane doesn't have much longer. I have a very loose grasp of the lore. I thought they were suppoed to move on after "consuming" Zendikar
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Yawgmoth posted:Is he a libertarian? Because they're the only assholes I've ever known to think that gifts always have strings attached. If I were you I'd insist on paying after that bullshit message. Sounds less like a Libertarian and more like Niccolo Machiavelli. Rinkles posted:I have a very loose grasp of the lore. I thought they were suppoed to move on after "consuming" Zendikar The Titans left, the Eldrazi didn't.
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born on a buy you posted:Arizona magic continues to be hilariously hosed up. Offered to help cover hotel costs for a local kid that Q'ed for a PT but can't afford it. His boss, a local store owner, sent me and another guy that made the offer this message this morning: the bolded reads like he's threatening to injure his employee.
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Mar 6, 2015 22:26
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Symphonie posted:In the Nissa Worldwaker story, I believe they mentioned that two of the Eldrazi had taken off from Zendikar, but one was still chilling around. Yeah it was an Arcana from last summer. Ulamog is still on Zendikar but Kozilek and Emrakul have departed for whatever reason.
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Ya know, I really wish there were more Urza-era 'old grumpy crazy wizard dudes' planeswalkers. These brooding sexy fit soldier guys and ladies just don't come off as fantastical or interesting.
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I value my employee so I don't want him to be happy someone else did something nice for him. He might go there instead. If you really care about him like I do you won't help him at all, and neither will I. Pragmatically no one will help this guy. That is for the best.
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Mar 6, 2015 22:28
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TheTofuShop posted:the bolded reads like he's threatening to injure his employee. I read it more like "fuuuuuck, I was getting ready to promote this kid so I can work less," but your interpretation makes the guy even more hateable.
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Mar 6, 2015 22:28
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They really missed an opportunity not calling this card Dragon Punch 
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EatinCake posted:Ya know, I really wish there were more Urza-era 'old grumpy crazy wizard dudes' planeswalkers. These brooding sexy fit soldier guys and ladies just don't come off as fantastical or interesting. They are basically fantasy X-Men so that's what you're going to get
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Some Numbers posted:I read it more like "fuuuuuck, I was getting ready to promote this kid so I can work less," but your interpretation makes the guy even more hateable. If that was the case he can still do it. Only a crazy person would take away a promotion because of STRINGS ATTACHED and LOYALTY.
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dragon enthusiast posted:They are basically fantasy X-Men so that's what you're going to get where are the professor and magneto
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EatinCake posted:Ya know, I really wish there were more Urza-era 'old grumpy crazy wizard dudes' planeswalkers. These brooding sexy fit soldier guys and ladies just don't come off as fantastical or interesting. Dumbledore dies. No one cares about old crazy wizard dudes anymore. Also, I realized Frost Walker is an elemental. Him into Shorecrasher Elemental into MoW is a pretty neat curve.
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Elyv posted:where are the professor and magneto um urza is dead and karn is mia
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EatinCake posted:Ya know, I really wish there were more Urza-era 'old grumpy crazy wizard dudes' planeswalkers. These brooding sexy fit soldier guys and ladies just don't come off as fantastical or interesting. Nah, but at least we don't have cookie cutter bearded old wizards that are wise and possibly crazy. Also, Gideon is the best thing ever to come out of Magic and I'll hear nothing else. Tamiyo being the second best thing.
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Interesting that Temur is actually getting better and better here. Play it as a Ferocious deck with R/G splash blue for Stubborn Denial and Sarkhan IV. Roast really helps with removal too since you can now reliably drop Rhinos. Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 22:35 on Mar 6, 2015 |
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Angry Grimace posted:They really missed an opportunity not calling this card Dragon Punch This is very good but I think the difference between this and the 2+/2+ from Bear Punch is not insignificant...
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