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Gnumonic posted:There's a petition to expel the UCSC students who took part in the protest, and the administration is probably going to acquiesce. I kind of have a stake in this -- I taught critical theory to one of the students arrested in the highway closure protest -- but it seems excessive to dole out more punishment on top of a possible felony conviction. (I've never quite understood why schools feel the need to police off-campus student conduct but I'd wager the administration will expel them to save face). Given the push to make campuses safer by expelling students with only the preponderance of evidence standard, it seems like a no brainer to expel students who commit legitimate felonies while attending school.
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Gnumonic posted:There's a petition to expel the UCSC students who took part in the protest, and the administration is probably going to acquiesce. I kind of have a stake in this -- I taught critical theory to one of the students arrested in the highway closure protest -- but it seems excessive to dole out more punishment on top of a possible felony conviction. (I've never quite understood why schools feel the need to police off-campus student conduct but I'd wager the administration will expel them to save face). Oh for fucks sake. I agree that the protest poorly executed and they could have made better choices, but you probably shouldn't go to UCSC if you don't protest a little. poo poo, my mother probably did worse than that at UCSC, UCD, and UCB, and she got tenure. Ronald Reagan tried to fire my grandfather (who up until that point had been a Republican) over protests in the late 60s and failed because back then the UC system had stones. Civil disobedience is a bedrock of UCSC especially. CPColin posted:Meanwhile, the CSU system cruises along doing ???? on the left posted:Given the push to make campuses safer by expelling students with only the preponderance of evidence standard, it seems like a no brainer to expel students who commit legitimate felonies while attending school. nm fucked around with this message at 02:21 on Mar 6, 2015 |
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FilthyImp posted:While the grave itself is out in the open-ish, there's tons of security and poo poo around. Wow, really? That's very strange. Where I come from, all country leaders get buried in the same cemetery after they die and there's maybe like one honor guard that is stationed there.
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enraged_camel posted:Wow, really? That's very strange. Where I come from, all country leaders get buried in the same cemetery after they die and there's maybe like one honor guard that is stationed there. For some reason they think people might do silly things like arrive en masse to pee on the grave.
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enraged_camel posted:Wow, really? That's very strange. I wanted to do a jig on the fucker's grave. But if you look carefully you can spot more than a few CCTV cameras. Its also a stone's throw from administrative offices and the mess hall. So while there may not be beefy Matrix looking agents constantly on vigil, its very unlikely that one could get past the barrier and get away Scot free.
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Mar 6, 2015 08:11
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Given his God Emperor status, pissing on a styrofoam Reagan grave in a number of simultaneous locations would probably ruffle a few feathers. Accomplishing as little as any other protest, but it would probably comfort a few folks.
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CPColin posted:Meanwhile, the CSU system cruises along doing ???? Doing just as bad if not worse than the UC system, with all the same problems. The previous Chancellor was also your typical fat cat and let the system burn down around him so long as he could keep hiking his salary. Granted, the CSU's arguably have even more rugs to pull out from other students. The most egregious to take place at my old uni was the revocation of guaranteed admission for local students who met the minimum CSU entry requirements. Why did they take away this fundamental pillar of how the system operates? So that the same year, they can readjust their acceptance criteria to take in more out of state students for that sweet increased tuition cash. All at the expense of local, California students. Truly this is what the CSU system was set up for.  The CSU's are hosed and any bitching about the UC's can be applied to the CSU's.
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If you cant trust the oil industry... its a normal day. http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-pits-oil-wastewater-20150226-story.html quote:Hundreds of illicit oil wastewater pits found in Kern County I mean at least its in a state that doesnt have water concerns. quote:In pits located near clean water sources, Rodgers said, operators will be required to install monitor wells to test water quality. Oh hey! 2015 and they will now be required to pretend to do this thing. When do the crazies (or cops) start gunning down oil people instead of random citizens?
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FilthyImp posted:I had to go to the Reagan museum because the Treasures of Lincoln or whatever the gently caress was touring there (artifacts from the Great Emancipator's life, personal affects, etc). The burial plot overlooks a great view to have a beer by. That's because there was a guy who did it just a few weeks after it opened.
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Ron Jeremy posted:
 He visited the Nixon library and gravesite, too: 
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Family Values posted:As one of those tax payers, I think this is unfair. The voters have approved the past several education spending propositions that were put before them (I know prop 30 didn't go toward UC but just generally speaking here). This is also true for private universities. I used to be a technical consultant for a software company here in SoCal, and one of my coworkers got poached by a well-known private university. They gave him a director-level position and doubled his already-decent salary. He told me his fancy new job title and I said, "wow, sounds like a lot of responsibility." He laughed and said it's actually mostly BS, and that the job is ridiculously easy and he doesn't do much.
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nm posted:Why, if they don't impact campus safety? There's a big difference between violent crimes and civil disobedience. It is also unlikely they'll actually end up with felony convictions. I think the comment was more a jab at the "preponderance of evidence" standards that are getting pushed on campuses right now than a legitimate call for these students' expulsion.
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Thought this was amusing. quote:“freedom of speech, in a space that aims to be as inclusive as possible can be interpreted as hate speech.” http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2015/03/06/uc-irvine-students-vote-to-remove-american-flag-from-campus-lobby/ I'm glad to see that UCLA's USAC isn't the only incompetent student government around.
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Symetrique posted:Thought this was amusing. Irvine is going berserk over this right now. P dumb to even let it on the floor imho
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Mar 7, 2015 02:45
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Yeah, its starting to pop up on my FB feed. This is probably gonna get a lot more attention than USAC's gently caress up last month. quote:“Given that you are a Jewish student and very active in the Jewish community... how do you see yourself being able to maintain an unbiased view?” http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/06/us/debate-on-a-jewish-student-at-ucla.html?ref=us
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Also someone in one of my UCI facebook groups released the Google Drive spreadsheet with the roll call and the 6 people who voted to remove the flag.
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Gnumonic posted:There's a petition to expel the UCSC students who took part in the protest, and the administration is probably going to acquiesce. I kind of have a stake in this -- I taught critical theory to one of the students arrested in the highway closure protest -- but it seems excessive to dole out more punishment on top of a possible felony conviction. (I've never quite understood why schools feel the need to police off-campus student conduct but I'd wager the administration will expel them to save face). I'm trying to argue with some of my friends on facebook from when I went there about it, and they'd probably support hanging the protesters if they could.
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FMguru posted:Behold, the greatest living American: This was not me (i wish) but I did a one day double tour of Reagan-Nixon libraries a few years ago and it was great!
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Bip Roberts posted:This was not me (i wish) but I did a one day double tour of Reagan-Nixon libraries a few years ago and it was great! I definitely would not like to make the drive between the two on any single day.
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Mayor Dave posted:I definitely would not like to make the drive between the two on any single day. Yeah, Pasadena -> TO -> Yorba Linda -> Pasadena is about 3 hours driving (without traffic) mostly on 5. I think we did it on a Sunday and the traffic wasn't horrible.
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Jerry Manderbilt posted:Also someone in one of my UCI facebook groups released the Google Drive spreadsheet with the roll call and the 6 people who voted to remove the flag. All 6 of them should be hit with a sock full of oranges for the horrendous Tea Party bullshit they're going to subject this university to for the next month. Assholes. The rest of ASUCI, led by the president, is already backpedaling away from this mess as fast as possible.
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SporkOfTruth posted:All 6 of them should be hit with a sock full of oranges for the horrendous Tea Party bullshit they're going to subject this university to for the next month. Assholes. At least spring break's in two weeks. Small condolences...
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SporkOfTruth posted:All 6 of them should be hit with a sock full of oranges for the horrendous Tea Party bullshit they're going to subject this university to for the next month. Assholes. Well, this will probably follow the six who voted for it for the rest of their lives. I can see the guy who drafted this bill including "student government" on his resume, only for a quick google search to point out that he tried to ban the US flag. 
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Since UCs seem to get all the attention, let's see what's going on with CSUs: http://www.mercurynews.com/california/ci_27634125/csu-profs-stagnant-pay-pushing-us-out-middle quote:After a decade of stagnant wages, professors in the California State University system have lost more purchasing power than other public college faculty in the state and nationwide -- a trend that is pushing them out of the middle class, according to a report released Tuesday by the California Faculty Association. And here's a paper from the CA Faculty Association: http://www.calfac.org/race-to-the-bottom
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Tuxedo Gin posted:Since UCs seem to get all the attention, let's see what's going on with CSUs: That is great. You have a Masters or two, probably a Phd. Here is 45K, don't spend it all in one place. Edit: These professors are probably teaching classes that have 5 times as many students in them as they can handle, too. A lot of classes don't work with 20 people, because it doesn't allow for any real back and forth in the class. Much less, the Professor can't give out real assignments, because he or she doesn't have time to grade them all. How many of these people are stuck with hundreds of students every semester while getting paid absolute poo poo? Pohl fucked around with this message at 04:44 on Mar 7, 2015 |
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Symetrique posted:Yeah, its starting to pop up on my FB feed. This is probably gonna get a lot more attention than USAC's gently caress up last month. Jesus christ, the student focused on in the article was one of my classmates in highschool. Wow. I'm actually a bit uneasy that stuff like this is happening.
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kurona_bright posted:Jesus christ, the student focused on in the article was one of my classmates in highschool. Wow. I'm actually a bit uneasy that stuff like this is happening. They are young and they have no tact or understanding of how things actually work. This is what Conservatives point to as a Liberal college, but the students are wrangling with issues far bigger than themselves. Give them a few years and they will have some nuance and be able to articulate themselves, right now they just come across as anti-Semitic assholes. Yes it is stupid and incomprehensible, but these students are going to grow, learn and hopefully feel some loving guilt for this. Dumb college board decisions are not a statement on society, and people that try and compare college to any other walk of life should be shot.
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I knew one of the people on the judiciary board, actually. I recently graduated, and from most of the people I knew, USAC was considered to be a bit of a joke. In 2014 one of the more popular candidates, who was running as a joke, was promising to reduce traffic on the 405. Divestment caused a lot of toxicity on campus, despite the fact that the Regents already said its not going to happen. I understand the need for students to protest and express themselves, but its ridiculous that student government is more concerned with foreign policy instead of issues immediately facing students.
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It's legit terrifying to me to watch global warming slowly cook Riverside and the Inland Empire alive. It's predicted to be over 80 degrees here for the next 7 days, peaking at 90 degrees on Saturday. In March. Where, historically, only 1 day in 10 is over 80 degrees. Jesus Christ.
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:It's legit terrifying to me to watch global warming slowly cook Riverside and the Inland Empire alive. It's predicted to be over 80 degrees here for the next 7 days, peaking at 90 degrees on Saturday. In March. Where, historically, only 1 day in 10 is over 80 degrees. Jesus Christ. It's forecast to be like four straight days of 90 degrees here in Irvine. I remember back last May, it hit like, 98 and then 105 and then 101 in three days, when previously the May high was 90 degrees.
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:It's legit terrifying to me to watch global warming slowly cook Riverside and the Inland Empire alive. It's predicted to be over 80 degrees here for the next 7 days, peaking at 90 degrees on Saturday. In March. Where, historically, only 1 day in 10 is over 80 degrees. Jesus Christ. Natural cycles!!!!!
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:It's legit terrifying to me to watch global warming slowly cook Riverside and the Inland Empire alive. It's predicted to be over 80 degrees here for the next 7 days, peaking at 90 degrees on Saturday. In March. Where, historically, only 1 day in 10 is over 80 degrees. Jesus Christ. San Francisco barely has fog anymore. It's been 70s and sunny every day for like a year and a half.
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:It's legit terrifying to me to watch global warming slowly cook Riverside and the Inland Empire alive. It's predicted to be over 80 degrees here for the next 7 days, peaking at 90 degrees on Saturday. In March. Where, historically, only 1 day in 10 is over 80 degrees. Jesus Christ. I lolled at the stories of 49ers fans leaving the stadium early since they couldn't handle South Bay's blistering temps.
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etalian posted:I lolled at the stories of 49ers fans leaving the stadium early since they couldn't handle South Bay's blistering temps. Which was probably still cooler than what I experience in Texas.
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computer parts posted:Which was probably still cooler than what I experience in Texas. Well the south bay is only "horrible" while Texas is actually horrible.
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It's still noticeably warmer in the South Bay than in San Fran. The Tri Valley is probably the hottest before you actually cross into the Central Valley, though.
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Bip Roberts posted:Well the south bay is only "horrible" while Texas is actually horrible. I'll take a dry 110F in Texas to a humid 90F in South Bay any day.
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Jerry Manderbilt posted:It's still noticeably warmer in the South Bay than in San Fran. The Tri Valley is probably the hottest before you actually cross into the Central Valley, though. Typically yes, although the winds are sometimes different and so the South Bay will be just as hot as the Tri-Valley (especially if I'm living in the south bay with no A/C). The Tri-Valley doesn't get anywhere near as much smog though, as it's sort of a pcket. I used to drive from the Central Valley to work in the South Bay (without A/C), and it'd be 105-110 at home, driving past Tracy it's 115, and it'd drop ~10 degrees once I went over the Altamont to the Tri-Valley, another ~10 degrees once I crossed the Sunol grade, drop another 5-10 across 237 and then finally it'd be ~75 at work in Mountain View. The other big difference is how quickly, if at all, the temperature drops at night. The Central Valley basically sucks in July. In related crazy weather on the Pacific Coast news, there's pictures of the Iditarod with no snow except for a couple feet wide section that must've been trucked in. I think Alaska has been getting even more ridiculous highs than we have, not that it's much comfort, and was similar last year. I think it was something about the NE Pacific being abnormally warm which is skewing the Jet Stream a whole bunch, leading to the jet stream dipping back down causing the cold air to get pulled in to the Northeast.
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