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Zaphod42 posted:Don't get me wrong, I totally buy that you can get super addicted to nicotine and you feel awful without it. If you don't like Scorsese, you're a dumb gently caress motherfucker.
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Boy, I'll never forget those Goodfellas rip offs Shutter Island, Gangs of New York, Shine a Light, Hugo, The Departed, and The Aviator... No seriously what the gently caress is wrong with you.
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Mar 7, 2015 20:03
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Silence of the Lambs - that bit where 'he ate her face and his pulse didnt go over 85' irritates me. They intend it to imply that he's as ruthless as a shark but to me it implied more that he has the resting heart rate of an olympic runner. It's distracting since they did a fine job building a psychopath without throwing in 'his crazy has been measured by science'.
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Supreme Allah posted:Silence of the Lambs - that bit where 'he ate her face and his pulse didnt go over 85' irritates me. They intend it to imply that he's as ruthless as a shark but to me it implied more that he has the resting heart rate of an olympic runner. It's distracting since they did a fine job building a psychopath without throwing in 'his crazy has been measured by science'.
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Mar 7, 2015 20:49
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Supreme Allah posted:Silence of the Lambs - that bit where 'he ate her face and his pulse didnt go over 85' irritates me. They intend it to imply that he's as ruthless as a shark but to me it implied more that he has the resting heart rate of an olympic runner. It's distracting since they did a fine job building a psychopath without throwing in 'his crazy has been measured by science'. If he was an Olympic runner his resting heart rate would probably be in the low 40s though.
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Mar 7, 2015 21:23
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Pilchenstein posted:Everything with Hannibal Lecter in apart from Manhunter is at least partially dedicated to wanking over what an awesome cool psychopath he is and it's loving terrible. Hannibal: The TV Show is pretty great. It's got a healthy level of disrespect for the source material, Mads Mikkelsen is fantastic as Hannibal and the rest of the cast is great as well. It also does a good job of actually keeping Hannibal as the villain.
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Mar 7, 2015 21:36
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Pilchenstein posted:Everything with Hannibal Lecter in apart from Manhunter is at least partially dedicated to wanking over what an awesome cool psychopath he is and it's loving terrible. That was a line from the book Silence of The Lamb and in Red Dragon he was not seen as the super psychopath.
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Mar 7, 2015 21:37
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Zaphod42 posted:As for irrational, am I the only one who thinks Wolf of Wall Street was really juvenile and pointless? Scorsese is supposed to be this gigantic director, but he seems to be a teenage boy at heart. After Goodfellas he's just been kinda remaking Goodfellas over and over and over. Remember all the times in the movie where he's like "and then, for no reason, something terrible happened to someone close to me? Weird. Anyhoo..." Scorsese is kind of trusting the audience to realize that this guy is a piece of poo poo and a compulsive liar, but the character himself is never forced to face up to it. There are a couple times when the movie explicitly points this out (the car getting hosed up) but there are dozens of others (e.g "you ought to be glad you've got a husband in such great shape!" while flexing his man boobs) where you have to notice it on your own. I didn't get this the first time I watched it but once you notice it it's real obvious that the movie paints him in a different light than his own narration does
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Mar 7, 2015 21:56
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swamp waste posted:this guy is a piece of poo poo and a compulsive liar, but the character himself is never forced to face up to it. I think that's kinda his point.
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Mar 7, 2015 22:02
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The idea was to make you go "Wow wall street is a hosed up place". Unfortunately most saw it is "Wow I wish I was in the 1%"
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bobkatt013 posted:That was a line from the book Silence of The Lamb and in Red Dragon he was not seen as the super psychopath. 
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Mar 7, 2015 22:17
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RagnarokAngel posted:The idea was to make you go "Wow wall street is a hosed up place". Just like the idiots who idolize Tony Montana from Scarface.
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Mar 7, 2015 22:41
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Imagined posted:Just like the idiots who idolize Tony Montana from Scarface. FratBoyDormPoster.jpg
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Imagined posted:Just like the idiots who idolize Tony Montana from Scarface. Or the Gordon Gekko worshiping fuckwits.
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Let's discuss how idiots miss the point over drinks at a Gatsby themed party.
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Mar 8, 2015 02:32
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Or the girls who want to be swooned by the Phantom of the Opera.
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Mar 8, 2015 02:43
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Or the guys that start their own Fight Clubs.
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Mar 8, 2015 03:12
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Ryoshi posted:Or the guys that start their own Fight Clubs. To be fair, Fight Club got derailed by turning into a terrorist cult. Maybe it works out better in real life.
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Or the guys who think Full Metal Jacket is about how badass the army is.
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Mar 8, 2015 03:26
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Non Serviam posted:Or the guys who think Full Metal Jacket is about how badass the army is. So like Adam Baldwin?
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syscall girl posted:So like Adam Baldwin? I refuse to believe someone involved with the making of that movie, regardless of how much of a neoconservative he might be, thinks FMJ is pro army.
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Mar 8, 2015 03:35
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All of I, Frankenstein. I'm not sure I have ever been this bored during a supernatural action movie.
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Inzombiac posted:All of I, Frankenstein. AS poor a movie as it was, at least the actors in Van Helsing were having fun. Best Outtake: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMoSe-V36yw
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Non Serviam posted:I refuse to believe someone involved with the making of that movie, regardless of how much of a neoconservative he might be, thinks FMJ is pro army. It could be pro-army! All we see are Marines 
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Nth Doctor posted:Or the Gordon Gekko worshiping fuckwits. Apparently they did a screening at a Wall Street firm and the stockbrokers CHEERED during the scene where Belfort tears open a cushion to get at a stash of cocaine, buries his face in it and snorts it up. That's a scene that follows (from memory) his wife telling him she's leaving him and taking the kids with her, and is clearly meant to show the guy at his lowest point, retreating into the childish, hedonistic activities of his youth because he can't face up to reality sober. And they cheered it 
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Jerusalem posted:Apparently they did a screening at a Wall Street firm and the stockbrokers CHEERED during the scene where Belfort tears open a cushion to get at a stash of cocaine, buries his face in it and snorts it up. That's a scene that follows (from memory) his wife telling him she's leaving him and taking the kids with her, and is clearly meant to show the guy at his lowest point, retreating into the childish, hedonistic activities of his youth because he can't face up to reality sober. And they cheered it And Belfort's response to his wife declaring that she's leaving is to put his daughter in the car with him, lock the doors while the wife and housekeeper are screaming and crying, then drive backwards at top speed through the garage door and into a brick wall. And people still cheered.
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Slime posted:The heads are submerged in special time stuff, which I guess lets them have fresh heads forever and ever no matter who's head it is or how decayed/damaged it was before putting it in a jar. A-whaaaaa?
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CJacobs posted:I think that's kinda his point. I disagree, but even if it was, it would be kind of smarmy to act like the guy got punished effectively or forced to be a good person, when the reality-- as the ending showed-- is that he's still flyin high on money from rubes like us. It left a bad taste in my mouth for sure, but that's better than forcing a dishonest moral to the story/
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Saw Chappie this weekend... For a defense contractor making nigh-indestructible robots and mini-mechas, Tetravaal has the worst security in the world. The "guardkey" USB plug, robotic components, high-explosives, and guns, these all make their way out of Tetravaal's compound throughout the course of the movie, without ANY real oversight.
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BioEnchanted posted:AS poor a movie as it was, at least the actors in Van Helsing were having fun. Best Outtake: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMoSe-V36yw Van Helsinki and League of Extraordinary Gentlemen are such guilty pleasures for me. Not good movies at all, but I like the action hero/movie monster/literary legends mashup.
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People in old films kiss like cold fish. They just sort of hold their lips together, perfectly still (whilst counting down in their heads probably) then move away stiffly. It's so rigid and weird looking, it looks like teenagers in a high school production of Romeo and Juliet being made to kiss and they are finding it so awkwaaaaard I'm wondering if there was some crazy decency law in place that made on scene kissing so sterile, sort of like how people in Indian soap operas always stop just shy of kissing because they can't have it on telly. For reference, I'm watching Dial M for Murder and the way Grace Kelly kisses her lover is super weird.
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Dr Scoofles posted:I'm wondering if there was some crazy decency law in place that made on scene kissing so sterile, sort of like how people in Indian soap operas always stop just shy of kissing because they can't have it on telly. Yes, from 1930 to 1968 the Hays Code was a real thing.
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zhorse posted:Yes, from 1930 to 1968 the Hays Code was a real thing. Haha, here it is 'Excessive or lustful kissing, particularly when one character or the other is a "heavy".' Holy poo poo, they had a 3 second rule on kissing. I was half joking about counting down, it just seemed so staged and un spontaneous the way they broke apart.
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swamp waste posted:Remember all the times in the movie where he's like "and then, for no reason, something terrible happened to someone close to me? Weird. Anyhoo..." Scorsese is kind of trusting the audience to realize that this guy is a piece of poo poo and a compulsive liar, but the character himself is never forced to face up to it. There are a couple times when the movie explicitly points this out (the car getting hosed up) but there are dozens of others (e.g "you ought to be glad you've got a husband in such great shape!" while flexing his man boobs) where you have to notice it on your own. I didn't get this the first time I watched it but once you notice it it's real obvious that the movie paints him in a different light than his own narration does Yeah I totally see that, but my point is I feel like they got too caught up with just having fun with the over-the-top drugs and sex in the movie. Like Wolf is just the first half of Goodfellas, and then when the turn starts really coming and everything would be falling apart, its "well, that's all folks!" and Leo drives off into the sunset with a wink and a nod. I dunno. Its not a terrible film by any means but I feel like it really could have said something more, but stopped short. Maybe I'm too cynical. Ryoshi posted:Or the guys that start their own Fight Clubs. That's exactly my point; its like Wolf of Wall Street pulled a Fight Club where it cast a big pretty-boy Leonardo Di Caprio and had too much fun watching him party like casting Brad Pitt and then having audiences fall in love with him and his wild antics instead of being repulsed by the chaos growing with Project Mayhem. RagnarokAngel posted:The idea was to make you go "Wow wall street is a hosed up place". Yeah, but is that entirely the audience's fault or maybe was some part of the tone of the film off? That's all I'm saying, I feel like the movie had too much fun glamorizing all the excess because hey, Hollywood loves excess. What was the point of this movie again? Who cares, do some more coke and yell at the camera a few more times and then smash some stuff, it'll look great.
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Dr Scoofles posted:People in old films kiss like cold fish. They just sort of hold their lips together, perfectly still (whilst counting down in their heads probably) then move away stiffly. It's so rigid and weird looking, it looks like teenagers in a high school production of Romeo and Juliet being made to kiss and they are finding it so awkwaaaaard I imagine doing a stage kiss is actually pretty awkward unless you have real chemistry with the other person. I think that's the change, in modern days we expect more chemistry and so they specifically cast two people who look hot and are comfortable with each other moreso than two people who can play the specific roles really well and then just hoping they work well together. Maybe that's why there's so many cases of on-screen couples staying together offscreen? It happens more often than not in Hollywood these days. zhorse posted:Yes, from 1930 to 1968 the Hays Code was a real thing. Oh snap. Truly it was a different time.
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Zaphod42 posted:Yeah, but is that entirely the audience's fault or maybe was some part of the tone of the film off? That's all I'm saying, I feel like the movie had too much fun glamorizing all the excess because hey, Hollywood loves excess. What was the point of this movie again? Who cares, do some more coke and yell at the camera a few more times and then smash some stuff, it'll look great. I'm not even an expert on analyzing film and it's pretty obvious that Leo's character is meant to be perceived as a sociopath and the fact that there are no consequences is meant to show that just like real life, many bankers will never receive comeuppance. You're supposed to be upset that he doesn't receive consequences and giving him them would remove the point of the movie.
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RagnarokAngel posted:I'm not even an expert on analyzing film and it's pretty obvious that Leo's character is meant to be perceived as a sociopath and the fact that there are no consequences is meant to show that just like real life, many bankers will never receive comeuppance. You're supposed to be upset that he doesn't receive consequences and giving him them would remove the point of the movie. Honestly, artists always complain about how people perceive their work. After you create something then it's out of your control. Some people will get it, some won't (see college students worshipping Tony Montana) A realm problem is people making American Sniper or Zero dark Thirty with the express purpose of making lovely people look good.
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RagnarokAngel posted:I'm not even an expert on analyzing film and it's pretty obvious that Leo's character is meant to be perceived as a sociopath He's also supposed to be dumb as gently caress. At one point he tries to talk to a FBI agent and almost gets charged for bribing a federal agent.
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Jay 2K Winger posted:Saw Chappie this weekend... My gripe with Chappie is how Vincent Moore (Hugh Jackman's character) keeps trying to sell his Moose project to Tetravaal for police use. Realistically Tetravaal should be marketing that to the military & let that stuff trickle down to local law enforcement (like how current US LEO's do it through their DHS budgeting).
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RagnarokAngel posted:I'm not even an expert on analyzing film and it's pretty obvious that Leo's character is meant to be perceived as a sociopath and the fact that there are no consequences is meant to show that just like real life, many bankers will never receive comeuppance. You're supposed to be upset that he doesn't receive consequences and giving him them would remove the point of the movie. Not to mention that it's based on a true story and that's actually what happened. A description of the prison where Belfort served 22 months, by another inmate: quote:Sports complex "The first morning, when I woke up it was a kind of university-campus like setting. I walked out and in the middle of the courtyard was a huge sign that said 'Sports Complex.' Basketball, football, baseball, soccer, bocce ball, volleyball, handball. And I looked around and there were about 500 guys there. And they all had on equipment; there was a soccer game and a baseball game going on."
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