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VanSandman posted:Vegeta would approve of Videl due to her work ethic. He'd probably get her to make Gohan train more somehow. This is basically the Videl/Gohan mentor quest line. SyntheticPolygon posted:Also, speaking of that arc did Videl become the GreatSaiyaman 2 in one of the movies or something because I don't remember it happening in the show but i've played a few games where it was a costume and it's basically the greatest. I think she only donned it in the Fusion Reborn movie which involved fighting a bunch of dead villains and Hitler.
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Videl became Saiyaman 2/Saiyawoman in part of the post-Buu filler. She also wore it in the Tapion movie I believe.
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Mar 9, 2015 03:01
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SyntheticPolygon posted:The GreatSaiyaman arc is legitimately one of my favourite arcs in the series, it's just so goofy and fun. The Buu saga really should have stuck with that tone throughout all of it, I think it was more dragonball-esque than the previous few arcs of Z. She became the Great Saiyawoman in Wrath of the Dragon.
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Mar 9, 2015 03:05
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Goku should've became like Jojos with different generations doing things.
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Mar 9, 2015 03:12
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I am glad Gohan didn't become the main hero, I like him as the dude that is reluctant to fight and really isn't good in fight situations despite his massive potential. Its like the only interesting quality he has.
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Mar 9, 2015 03:13
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Yeah I'm not sure why so many people in this thread want Gohan to be the hero. He had like, one cool moment in all of DBZ and that was when he blew Cell into nothingness. That was his peak and I'm fine with that because Goku + Vegeta solving everything else is more interesting
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Mar 9, 2015 03:21
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Zzulu posted:Yeah I'm not sure why so many people in this thread want Gohan to be the hero. He had like, one cool moment in all of DBZ and that was when he blew Cell into nothingness. That was his peak and I'm fine with that because Goku + Vegeta solving everything else is more interesting I think a lot of us enjoy Gohan for being more, no pun intended, human. His awkward doofiness in the Great Saiyaman stuff convinces me that a more Gohan centric variation of the Buu Saga would have been hella fun. But I also don't really like Goku much. 
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Mar 9, 2015 03:28
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I don't know, whenever he fought he acted exactly like Goku because when fighting actually happened everyone always acted exactly the same. I mean its not like Gohan didn't get his focus in the Buu saga(he acted about how I expected Goku would have as well), it was just ultimately pointless.
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Zzulu posted:Yeah I'm not sure why so many people in this thread want Gohan to be the hero. He had like, one cool moment in all of DBZ and that was when he blew Cell into nothingness. That was his peak and I'm fine with that because Goku + Vegeta solving everything else is more interesting Agreed. To take it one step further, I never really enjoyed the Gohan character of the Buu Saga. Great Saiyaman was a nice breath of fresh air to start the Buu saga, but older Gohan always just kind of seemed there after losing the "literal child with massive potential" character trope. He just was the boring son who was just kind of there. Granted, he didn't enjoy fighting like his dad did, but that never really is a thing except for the two times Vegeta lashes out at him about it. I don't really blame Toriyama for bringing back Goku if he had to make a new story arc after Cell, Gohan just doesn't have the charisma that Goku, Vegeta, and even Krillin did.
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Mar 9, 2015 03:31
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Zzulu posted:Yeah I'm not sure why so many people in this thread want Gohan to be the hero. He had like, one cool moment in all of DBZ and that was when he blew Cell into nothingness. That was his peak and I'm fine with that because Goku + Vegeta solving everything else is more interesting When half the Buu arc was hyping up Gohan to be the savior and then immediately shelve the idea like 100 episodes later, yeah people are a little upset by that. He's also amazing in the Great Saiyaman arc, wtf.
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Mar 9, 2015 03:40
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Gohan was always terrible, I can't think of a point in the entire series where we wasn't cringe worthy or overshadowed.
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Mar 9, 2015 03:41
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Zzulu posted:Yeah I'm not sure why so many people in this thread want Gohan to be the hero. He had like, one cool moment in all of DBZ and that was when he blew Cell into nothingness. That was his peak and I'm fine with that because Goku + Vegeta solving everything else is more interesting
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Mar 9, 2015 03:46
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In hindsight, Gohan is probably the closest thing to the Joseph Joestar of DBZ. He just loses far more fights than Joseph ever did.
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Kild posted:Goku should've became like Jojos with different generations doing things. Son Go's Mystical Adventure. Son Goku Son Gohan Son Goten
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Stallion Cabana posted:I feel like he's overstating his 'never trained'. Like how would he know how fast he gets strong if he's never trained. It seems more likely he did it for a little bit, saw a massive improvement, went 'well gently caress this that was amazing, that's all I need' and never did it again. who cares, i'm loving the idea of a freeza training sequence
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I can't help but wonder what kind of space training Frieza will do to get from being below SSJ1 in power to above SSJ3 (And maybe SSGod? He shouldn't know Goku is this strong yet, right?).
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:I can't help but wonder what kind of space training Frieza will do to get from being below SSJ1 in power to above SSJ3 (And maybe SSGod? He shouldn't know Goku is this strong yet, right?). The folks who revive Freeza know Goku beat Buu so there's an understanding that Goku is 'spectacularly strong, way stronger than Freeza' But who cares, it's Dragon Ball Z and I want to see Super Freeza loving around
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Mar 9, 2015 04:20
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Onmi posted:Son Go's Mystical Adventure. I don't understand why GT wasn't just about Goten. The letters even kind of loving work. He looks exactly like Kid Goku. How wasn't that a no-brainer?
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Lumberjack Bonanza posted:I don't understand why GT wasn't just about Goten. The letters even kind of loving work. He looks exactly like Kid Goku. How wasn't that a no-brainer? Because GT was done by the studio's looking to continue making a buck.
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Twiddy posted:He was literally hyped up since the beginning of DBZ, which is where most people started watching the show. Like he was shown as stronger than Goku in the fight against Raditz. The fight against Cell was the culmination of a buildup since the story began for many people, it's disappointing that it just died off. He was hyped up but he had his payoff so I don't particularly care what happened next. They Great Saiyaman arc is about all you have left to do with the character really. Trying to shoe him into the hero of the Buu arc was just dumb.
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I don't know when's the last time you watched the Buu arc, because it's pretty much 90% Gohan being treated as a super special guy that everyone's waiting to get back into prime form before being eaten by Buu. Goku was far more shoe-horned in as the hero, complete with "Dragonball, we gonna waste a wish to refill his batteries."
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There was no specific hero in the Buu saga. Everyone just took turns being the guy who was gonna win for realsies. I mean you had Gotenks, Gohan, Vegito, and Goku were all seen as potential saviors. That arc was quite literally all over the place. I am actually quite content with how it ended frankly.
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CharlestheHammer posted:He was hyped up but he had his payoff so I don't particularly care what happened next. To be fair he wasn't "Shoed in" as the hero if he were, he's more pushed out of the hero role because most of the arc is his training to unlock his full power. In the end every bit with the Old Kai etc. was just pointless filler.
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Onmi posted:To be fair he wasn't "Shoed in" as the hero if he were, he's more pushed out of the hero role because most of the arc is his training to unlock his full power. In the end every bit with the Old Kai etc. was just pointless filler. Well I mean it was basically, "remember cell? Lets do that again." No, no lets not. I would prefer Gotenks to that again.
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CharlestheHammer posted:Well I mean it was basically, "remember cell? Lets do that again." Gotenks also reeked of wasted time. All that fusion training, the Super Saiyan 3, it pretty much amounted to another Buu power up. Now granted, this is not the first time they did this. In Dragonball Tenshinhan trained hard for King Piccolo and got completely schooled by Drum.
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I love the Buu saga precisely because it is such a chaotic mess of everyone pulling new fusions and transformations and TRUE POTENTIAL out of their asses.
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Goku was basically a power-up merchant. Nothing he did was to actively beat Buu, just to throw in the next power-up like Fusion, Potora, helping with the Z Sword, etc until everyone else was dead. Gotenks or Gohan beating Kid Buu would've been progressive because that is literally Goku's desire, is for the new generation to be able to protect the universe without him.
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Onmi posted:Gotenks also reeked of wasted time. All that fusion training, the Super Saiyan 3, it pretty much amounted to another Buu power up. I actually like that. The heroes have plans they all fail, ending with the the first ever failure coming back to save the day. It works man. Hell every Dragon ball arc has several plans that fail hard, there are very few plans that actually work and its usually the heroes pulling poo poo out of their asses so complaining about Buu saga doing it seems weird. Plus the heroes who actually win it are Hercule and Vegeta.
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Plus it all continues into Battle of Gods, where Toriyama goes "No seriously you guys, I wasn't making GBS threads you about fusions and transformations not being that great".
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Mar 9, 2015 04:57
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But Vegetto was the bestest ever.
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VanSandman posted:Vegeta would approve of Videl due to her work ethic. He'd probably get her to make Gohan train more somehow. Vegeta would have Videl fighting at like Yamcha/Krillen level in like maybe 5 weeks.
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Pureauthor posted:But Vegetto was the bestest ever. He was a permanent solution to a temporary problem, as cool as he was.
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Dexo posted:Vegeta would have Videl fighting at like Yamcha/Krillen level in like maybe 5 weeks. You mean Yamcha/Tien level. Krillin is strongest (human) there is! ZenMasterBullshit fucked around with this message at 05:37 on Mar 9, 2015 |
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Mar 9, 2015 05:03
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Uh I'll have you know that Master Roshi is the strongest. Did Krillin ever fire a Kamehameha that could blow up a mountain?
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You know, if Vegeta becomes a Super Saiyan God in Revival of F, I can't help but wonder what Akira Toriyama will do to accommodate for the ending of DBZ. I mean, at the end Goku goes to train with Uub, and due to Battle of the Gods, he's now WAY stronger than Kid Buu was. If Vegeta reaches that level too, I can't help but wonder why he wouldn't just train with Vegeta instead.
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i think at this point the ending to Z is done. There ain't no going back to that. Which is fine because it sucked.
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CharlestheHammer posted:Which is fine because it sucked. Then six months he will say it was all a dream of a dying Buu.
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Mar 9, 2015 05:17
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Just wait until you see Uub + 4 months of training.
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:You know, if Vegeta becomes a Super Saiyan God in Revival of F, I can't help but wonder what Akira Toriyama will do to accommodate for the ending of DBZ. I mean, at the end Goku goes to train with Uub, and due to Battle of the Gods, he's now WAY stronger than Kid Buu was. If Vegeta reaches that level too, I can't help but wonder why he wouldn't just train with Vegeta instead. Honestly don't care about the continuity all that much. Just make good/interesting/funny stories in the DBZ universe and I'm 100% down.
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:You know, if Vegeta becomes a Super Saiyan God in Revival of F, I can't help but wonder what Akira Toriyama will do to accommodate for the ending of DBZ. I mean, at the end Goku goes to train with Uub, and due to Battle of the Gods, he's now WAY stronger than Kid Buu was. If Vegeta reaches that level too, I can't help but wonder why he wouldn't just train with Vegeta instead. If Freeza could become super strong with training, imagine how much more powerful Kid Buu could become!!!
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