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Alien Rope Burn
Dec 5, 2004

I wanna be a saikyo HERO!

For some reason I'm running into the 256 song bug with Horizon too. Though it seems to have installed them all initially, whenever the drive is reexamined (by reloading Horizon or through the Xbox itself), it only shows the first 256. Right now a workaround of installing through USBXTAF seemingly got me over the hump but we'll see. At this rate I'm tempted to just learn C3 CON Tools, getting this to work with the existing drive tools has been a tremendous headache.

Edit: though the tracks from USBXTAF show, Horizon is refusing to install over 258 songs. It goes through the process and tells me they're installed and shows them, but any reexamination of the drive doesn't display them. They seem to have taken up more space... but don't actually work, like it's installed them to the wrong location, perhaps, or installed them incorrectly.

Alien Rope Burn fucked around with this message at 20:09 on Mar 8, 2015

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farottone
Oct 18, 2013

C3 Author

sellouts posted:

Why can't I do a similar thing on Amazon and iTunes? What's stopping them?

It's certainly done with iTunes. On example is magazines issues, bought with a general account (for publishers allowing cross-platform purchases) and read on iOs devices as well as Windows, etc.

farottone
Oct 18, 2013

C3 Author

Alien Rope Burn posted:

For some reason I'm running into the 256 song bug with Horizon too.

What happens if you now go back to Party Buffalo?

Dewgy
Nov 10, 2005

~🚚special delivery~📦

farottone posted:

It's certainly done with iTunes. On example is magazines issues, bought with a general account (for publishers allowing cross-platform purchases) and read on iOs devices as well as Windows, etc.

He means why can't you transfer purchases from your Amazon account to your iTunes account? That is analogous to what you'd have to do to go from Xbox to PSN. It is a wholly different seller for the purchase.

cbirdsong
Sep 8, 2004

Commodore of the Apocalypso
Lipstick Apathy

farottone posted:

It's certainly done with iTunes. On example is magazines issues, bought with a general account (for publishers allowing cross-platform purchases) and read on iOs devices as well as Windows, etc.

This is analogous to logging in with your Spotify account on multiple devices - a service that is cross-platform from its inception. What you're suggesting with DLC is analogous to Apple and Google getting together to let you migrate app purchases between the App Store and Google Play. It's not a huge technical challenge, but it's in neither party's best interest to free you from the lock-in.

farottone
Oct 18, 2013

C3 Author

Dewgy posted:

He means why can't you transfer purchases from your Amazon account to your iTunes account?

You don't transfer purchases from a gaming platform to another. You download for free an in app content based on the fact that your account shows you already own it. Let me reiterate: I'm not suggesting it's in HMX's best interest, I simply pointed out that it's not impossible to do or that it's not in the hands of Sony or Microsoft.

As a developer, you check in app whether the logged in user has possession of the item. If they don't, you point the user to the paid section/button/whatever, if they do you point them directly to download/code to insert to get the free content/whatever.

farottone
Oct 18, 2013

C3 Author

cbirdsong posted:

What you're suggesting with DLC is analogous to Apple and Google getting together to let you migrate app purchases between the App Store and Google Play.

In app paid content is already being accessed on either marketplace depending on whether the publisher has elected to let their users do so or not. One of the platforms we provide for our customers let them sell content bought once and read on iPad/iPhone/Android smartphones, etc.

Orange Harrison
Feb 24, 2010

All through the day, I me mine

Dr Zaius posted:

Really? That's a pretty out there complaint. Maybe buy a TV made in the last 7 years.

I have one of those oddball HDCRTs. It's big-screen, and HD, but tube-driven (not rear-projection). It's p much the only way to play RB in HD with 0ms latency. More or less an enormous computer monitor.

ElwoodCuse
Jan 11, 2004

we're puttin' the band back together

Orange Harrison posted:

I have one of those oddball HDCRTs. It's big-screen, and HD, but tube-driven (not rear-projection). It's p much the only way to play RB in HD with 0ms latency. More or less an enormous computer monitor.

What is your preferred brand of forklift?

Dewgy
Nov 10, 2005

~🚚special delivery~📦

farottone posted:

You don't transfer purchases from a gaming platform to another. You download for free an in app content based on the fact that your account shows you already own it. Let me reiterate: I'm not suggesting it's in HMX's best interest, I simply pointed out that it's not impossible to do or that it's not in the hands of Sony or Microsoft.

As a developer, you check in app whether the logged in user has possession of the item. If they don't, you point the user to the paid section/button/whatever, if they do you point them directly to download/code to insert to get the free content/whatever.

Right, and who actually pays for that on the other content marketplace? Harmonix doesn't do their own distribution of in-game content, and all DLC has to come down as signed from the store, authenticated on your Microsoft or PSN store account. Harmonix doesn't have the ability to distribute via a channel that avoids that, so how exactly do these items get marked as purchased on the target platform?

I mean you're saying "not impossible but not in their best interests" like there's a functional difference here.

GenderSelectScreen
Mar 7, 2010

I DON'T KNOW EITHER DON'T ASK ME
College Slice
God drat I regret making that post now. I was just trying to make a joke at PS4 owners and it turned into this.

Orange Harrison
Feb 24, 2010

All through the day, I me mine

ElwoodCuse posted:

What is your preferred brand of forklift?

My strategy is to never move out from where I currently live. It weighs more than the fridge, but picture so pretty!

Republicans
Oct 14, 2003

- More money for us

- Fuck you


Could they put out a PC version and say "If you want a platform that has all your purchase history across multiple consoles, here you go"?

Of course they shouldn't, people would pirate the ever-living gently caress out of it.

Dewgy
Nov 10, 2005

~🚚special delivery~📦

Republicans posted:

Could they put out a PC version and say "If you want a platform that has all your purchase history across multiple consoles, here you go"?

Of course they shouldn't, people would pirate the ever-living gently caress out of it.

Having re-bought a bunch of poo poo for Rocksmith already, I know that that wouldn't work either. :v:

farottone
Oct 18, 2013

C3 Author

Dewgy posted:

Right, and who actually pays for that on the other content marketplace? Harmonix doesn't do their own distribution of in-game content.

Technically neither do iOs developers, you still need to go through iTunes anyway. Yes, actual content is then served from the developer's servers (or a proxy) but as it's been answered before the issue isn't certainly that of a few megabytes being transferred. And you don't even have to make the previously owned content free, you can choose to give discounts if you want, but again that would mean having setup a user identification system to begin with.

Anyway, I've derailed the discussion enough, I just wanted to point out that it's something that is being done already. Yes, not in games probably but the Rock Band situation is pretty specific, I'm not sure how many other multiplatform games have users who ammassed hundreds if not thousands of dollars in purchases. And, again, even letting users port over their purchases is amazing.

Geographica
Jun 1, 2010
So what song(s) are we all entering into the Rock Band Request Page?

Except for the obvious choice, Hocus Pocus by Focus.

Serrath
Mar 17, 2005

I have nothing of value to contribute
Ham Wrangler
All my friends thought I was mad when I purchased the original RB games and all DLC on my PS3. Well, who's mad now, James! Have fun rebuying 5 foo fighter albums, maybe I'll accept your psn friend request now, Ivan!

I am king of the console wars, finally my slavish devotion to Sony had paid off!

Die Sexmonster!
Nov 30, 2005

Geographica posted:

So what song(s) are we all entering into the Rock Band Request Page?

Except for the obvious choice, Hocus Pocus by Focus.

That, Blues Traveler, and Royal Blood yeah.

sellouts
Apr 23, 2003

farottone posted:

It's certainly done with iTunes. On example is magazines issues, bought with a general account (for publishers allowing cross-platform purchases) and read on iOs devices as well as Windows, etc.

It's not with music, which again with licensing, rights and accounting, is far different than anything else. What you're talking about isn't remotely comparable.

Alien Rope Burn
Dec 5, 2004

I wanna be a saikyo HERO!

farottone posted:

What happens if you now go back to Party Buffalo?

I'm less inclined to mess around with Party Buffalo after what amounts to it seemingly corrupting files, I admit, and am just inclined to wipe the stick anyway and start over since the size and the tracks on there aren't matching up. I just created my first couple packs with C3 Con Tools and will probably be sorting it all out that way for now, I need to do that sooner or later anyway, and that'll let me more easily troubleshoot if I have any more issues as I go.

Cliff
Nov 12, 2008

Geographica posted:

So what song(s) are we all entering into the Rock Band Request Page?

Oh man, is it time for lists again!?

Mach 5 by Presidents of the United States of America
White Limo by Foo Fighters
Brian Wilson by Barenaked Ladies

pksage
Jul 2, 2009

You are an experience!
Make sure you're a good experience.
Of the stuff I've authored for C3, here's what I think has a chance of being actually released:

The Cardigans - "Lovefool"
Earth, Wind & Fire - "September"
Modest Mouse - "Dashboard"

Modern songs that I think have a shot and I'd like to play:

Bastille - "Pompeii"
Big Data - "Dangerous"
Capital Cities - "Safe and Sound" (might be a harder sell without keys)
Milky Chance - "Stolen Dance"
The Neighborhood - "Sweater Weather"

However, if we get any Mumford & Sons or Safe and Sound-era Fun, I will do my best to produce *negative* downloads for those weeks.

cronox2
Jul 24, 2010



woah, you look
REALLY pissed off...

pksage posted:

Big Data - "Dangerous"

The song that launches a thousand bassists. Anything by Big Data would be great.

Dunno if it's been mentioned on here yet but they announced after he was done playing at the Harmonix party last night that there will be a free Frank Turner track very soon, IIRC it was I Still Believe.

The T
May 29, 2010

A sufficiently chaotic system is maximally fair.

cronox2 posted:

Dunno if it's been mentioned on here yet but they announced after he was done playing at the Harmonix party last night that there will be a free Frank Turner track very soon, IIRC it was I Still Believe.

That came out like 4 days ago. :v:

hexwren
Feb 27, 2008

The new game needs everything from the latest New Pornographers record.

Volfogg
Dec 19, 2010

Some say she was raised by sentient birds, and that test subjects replicating her equipment were horribly broken.

All we know is she's called
The Hunter


It won't truly be Dave Grohl Band without full album releases of Wasting Light and Sonic Highways.

That said, I too would be good with White Limo getting a release.

Lord Zedd
Dec 25, 2011
I dug through the Blitz ark file and found these images of early/concept UI, it's kinda cool. http://imgur.com/a/5i6U8

Kaboobi
Jan 5, 2005

SHAKE IT BABY!
SALT THAT LADY!

Gimme Probot. Or Song for the Dead. Or Smooth Sailing.

GenderSelectScreen
Mar 7, 2010

I DON'T KNOW EITHER DON'T ASK ME
College Slice

pksage posted:

Bastille - "Pompeii"

God I would kill for some Bastille and Alt-J.

Alien Rope Burn
Dec 5, 2004

I wanna be a saikyo HERO!

Geographica posted:

Except for the obvious choice, Hocus Pocus by Focus.

I remember directly requesting this of Harmonix back during the days of RB2. From what I understand it's a charting nightmare, though, unfortunately.

Allen Wren posted:

The new game needs everything from the latest New Pornographers record.

We got a little New Pornographers officially but we will never have enough.

Spoeank
Jul 16, 2003

That's a nice set of 11 dynasty points there, it would be a shame if 3 rings were to happen with it

pksage posted:

Of the stuff I've authored for C3, here's what I think has a chance of being actually released:

The Cardigans - "Lovefool"
Earth, Wind & Fire - "September"
Modest Mouse - "Dashboard"

Modern songs that I think have a shot and I'd like to play:

Bastille - "Pompeii"
Big Data - "Dangerous"
Capital Cities - "Safe and Sound" (might be a harder sell without keys)
Milky Chance - "Stolen Dance"
The Neighborhood - "Sweater Weather"

However, if we get any Mumford & Sons or Safe and Sound-era Fun, I will do my best to produce *negative* downloads for those weeks.

Dashboard is the perfect Rock Band song gimme gimme gimme :argh:

pksage
Jul 2, 2009

You are an experience!
Make sure you're a good experience.

Spoeank posted:

Dashboard is the perfect Rock Band song gimme gimme gimme :argh:

If you have an Xbox 360 and the original disc pressing of RB3, or if you have a jailbroken Wii or PS3, you can play it right now! The OP no longer has info on custom songs, but if you google "rock band C3" you'll find everything you need. I authored "Dashboard" myself and it's awesome, check it out!

Everyone should check out custom songs, easy to do with no need for a modded 360. v:shobon:v

SatansBestBuddy
Sep 26, 2010

by FactsAreUseless

Spoeank posted:

Dashboard is the perfect Rock Band song gimme gimme gimme :argh:

Released like a year ago, catch up on your C3

E:f;b

Spoeank
Jul 16, 2003

That's a nice set of 11 dynasty points there, it would be a shame if 3 rings were to happen with it
I did one big C3 and sort of forgot about it.

I appreciate you gimme gimme gimmeing it. Time to remember how to C3

Purple Prophecy
Mar 7, 2013
So I've got the ion kit with the 360 controller and a Roland kit I've been using with the adapter thingy (also xbox). Any chance I'll be able to use one of those on the PS4 when Rock Band 4 comes out? Or will I probably have to wait until anyone comes up with an adapter?

The Rabbi T. White
Jul 17, 2008





Purple Prophecy posted:

So I've got the ion kit with the 360 controller and a Roland kit I've been using with the adapter thingy (also xbox). Any chance I'll be able to use one of those on the PS4 when Rock Band 4 comes out? Or will I probably have to wait until anyone comes up with an adapter?

Someone better come out with a MIDI adaptor for Xbone/PS4. I spent $1200 on a drum kit about 3 months ago. I better be able to use the drat thing...

Purple Prophecy
Mar 7, 2013

The Rabbi T. White posted:

Someone better come out with a MIDI adaptor for Xbone/PS4. I spent $1200 on a drum kit about 3 months ago. I better be able to use the drat thing...

For that price I'd expect you should be able to use it as an actual drum kit ;)

Nah, seriously, I totally agree. Drumming along with Rock Band is just so much fun!

Minidust
Nov 4, 2009

Keep bustin'

Alien Rope Burn posted:

I'm less inclined to mess around with Party Buffalo after what amounts to it seemingly corrupting files, I admit, and am just inclined to wipe the stick anyway and start over since the size and the tracks on there aren't matching up. I just created my first couple packs with C3 Con Tools and will probably be sorting it all out that way for now, I need to do that sooner or later anyway, and that'll let me more easily troubleshoot if I have any more issues as I go.
I've found Party Buffalo to be fine if you use a separate USB stick to "ferry" the injected content to the 360, then use the 360 itself to move the content to a "destination" storage device that never leaves the console. That way you're never using Party Buffalo (or any injection software) where the stuff actually lives and the risk of corruption is minimal.

farottone
Oct 18, 2013

C3 Author
I use Horizon and Party Buffalo and neither has ever corrupted anything, as long as you don't delete files from there (any XBox transfer tool will mess up things eventually when deleting). It can either be the stick itself or something else.

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Die Sexmonster!
Nov 30, 2005

Minidust posted:

I've found Party Buffalo to be fine if you use a separate USB stick to "ferry" the injected content to the 360, then use the 360 itself to move the content to a "destination" storage device that never leaves the console. That way you're never using Party Buffalo (or any injection software) where the stuff actually lives and the risk of corruption is minimal.

Why not just leave it on the 360 drive?

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