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500k outside the big urban areas (or oil areas) is still a mansion.
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No government help for home ownership would be the best possible solution since it's the root of bubble problems.
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# ? Mar 7, 2015 04:50 |
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etalian posted:No government help for home ownership would be the best possible solution since it's the root of bubble problems. Not to mention the root of dozens of other problems.
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http://business.financialpost.com/2015/03/06/only-mass-default-will-end-the-worlds-addiction-to-debt/quote:Only mass default will end the world’s addiction to debt lol financial post can't summon the large intestine to poo poo out an article so it outsources from the telegraph i'll toxx myself if the world undergoes mass global default. shut the gently caress up telegraph
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# ? Mar 7, 2015 18:07 |
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etalian posted:No government help for home ownership would be the best possible solution since it's the root of bubble problems. Cheap credit is the real root. It's exacerbated by the CMHC assuming risk. The truth is that the CMHC has been around since the early 40's and actually did a lot of good in the country post-war, across the board, for all classes of people. Only recently, thanks for Flaherty and Harper, has the CMHC become the thing it is today. There was/is a very deliberate strategy at play with regard to housing in Canada and the run on effect it has had on our economy on the positive (employment, wealth creation, etc). They pushed it way too loving far, and, here we are.
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# ? Mar 7, 2015 18:46 |
re: construction out of wood from a few pages ago: hey pc9a look south. The microjuice bar going into the old weird church site near the Elbow Casino is pretty well in flames right now. A 4 story wooden structure I had just driven by and thought of this discussion. Weird to see it completely on fire now. e. Bilirubin fucked around with this message at 20:45 on Mar 7, 2015 |
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# ? Mar 7, 2015 20:30 |
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Hahah
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Bilirubin posted:re: construction out of wood from a few pages ago: hey pc9a look south. The microjuice bar going into the old weird church site near the Elbow Casino is pretty well in flames right now. Haha, I saw that on Twitter and wondered, based on the earlier discussion, if the building was made of wood. Yeah, this is totally a building technique we should be going hog wild with... What could go wrong???
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# ? Mar 7, 2015 21:21 |
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Most of it is due to how wood stick built type housing is much cheaper than cast concrete and other more expensive type buildings. Also you need to build fast fast to make sure buyer can pay-up on their pre-sale condo.
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etalian posted:Most of it is due to how wood stick built type housing is much cheaper than cast concrete and other more expensive type buildings. I get why developers like it, I just don't know why building codes allow it or why in god's name people would want to live in a wood-frame building instead of a proper concrete building.
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Bilirubin posted:re: construction out of wood from a few pages ago: hey pc9a look south. The microjuice bar going into the old weird church site near the Elbow Casino is pretty well in flames right now. I wonder if this isn't more of a feature and less of a bug. Easy to get going and difficult to stop, it probably also reduces evidence, making insurance fraud much easier.
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Sassafras fucked around with this message at 09:11 on Mar 14, 2015 |
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But just wait! Soon, there will be six story high wood buildings in Calgary.
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# ? Mar 8, 2015 08:08 |
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Housing prices keep going up, we need to reduce construction standards. It's all that red tape and green exit signs driving the price up. Why don't you people care about affordability?
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# ? Mar 8, 2015 08:26 |
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It's a badly kept secret that trades will start fires in half finished houses if the owners refuse to pay them. With how slimy most condo developers are, that picture isn't surprising. Source: I spent the last decade in the industry and finally got out last fall.
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nature6pk posted:It's a badly kept secret that trades will start fires in half finished houses if the owners refuse to pay them. With how slimy most condo developers are, that picture isn't surprising. Another other funny stories you could tell us about the industry?
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http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/top-business-stories/why-so-much-money-is-shorting-the-canadian-dollar/article23354221/quote:Loonie short positions rise itshappening.gif
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nature6pk posted:It's a badly kept secret that trades will start fires in half finished houses if the owners refuse to pay them. With how slimy most condo developers are, that picture isn't surprising. Usually I just put a lien on the property if they're not paying me. It never occurred to me that I could just burn it down!
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# ? Mar 9, 2015 17:19 |
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We've put lien's on developers, sometimes they actually eventually sell their stupid condos and pay us. If we burned them down I'm not sure we'd get anything.
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Hey, remember that discussion a little while back about Alpha House and how people were attacking me for saying it was lovely and bad for the neighbourhood? Well, as it turns out, it's also bad for its clients. There was a fire there recently that killed someone, likely due to the same chronic understaffing and lack of fucks given that results in the many negative effects to the surrounding community. It turns out, too, that I'm not the only person who's had problems with them being nearby. For your consideration: http://www.reddit.com/r/Calgary/comments/2yeyr0/can_someone_explain_the_purpose_of_alpha_house_to/ Apologies are forthcoming from those who attacked me, I hope.
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PT6A posted:Hey, remember that discussion a little while back about Alpha House and how people were attacking me for saying it was lovely and bad for the neighbourhood? Well, as it turns out, it's also bad for its clients. There was a fire there recently that killed someone, likely due to the same chronic understaffing and lack of fucks given that results in the many negative effects to the surrounding community. It turns out, too, that I'm not the only person who's had problems with them being nearby. For your consideration: http://www.reddit.com/r/Calgary/comments/2yeyr0/can_someone_explain_the_purpose_of_alpha_house_to/ Just because Calgary underfunds and understaffs its treatment centers does not excuse you thinking the people being treated are subhuman or that we should "respect the fact that you don't want to interact with them." At all. The reason the city underfunds and understaffs those centres is because people think about those being treated the way you do. And the fact that the Calgary subreddit agrees with you is actually just more damning. So no, I don't apologize. peter banana fucked around with this message at 18:04 on Mar 9, 2015 |
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PT6A posted:Hey, remember that discussion a little while back about Alpha House and how people were attacking me for saying it was lovely and bad for the neighbourhood? Well, as it turns out, it's also bad for its clients. There was a fire there recently that killed someone, likely due to the same chronic understaffing and lack of fucks given that results in the many negative effects to the surrounding community. It turns out, too, that I'm not the only person who's had problems with them being nearby. For your consideration: http://www.reddit.com/r/Calgary/comments/2yeyr0/can_someone_explain_the_purpose_of_alpha_house_to/ So you acknowledge that the problem came from underfunding but still point out that it was a failure because of itself? Yeah. Nobody cares about your opinion still.
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# ? Mar 9, 2015 18:01 |
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They're actively asking people not to call the cops when they witness people committing crimes. That ain't a staffing issue.
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# ? Mar 9, 2015 18:13 |
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The other fun things is those all wood buildings that can be 6 stories tall in Ontario, they have to have an elevator. Which means given the current cheap building environment, means there is a good chance they will be on the outside of the building and gap as the building expands due to the weather (of course they will start them all in January, why wouldn't you).
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sbaldrick posted:The other fun things is those all wood buildings that can be 6 stories tall in Ontario, they have to have an elevator. Which means given the current cheap building environment, means there is a good chance they will be on the outside of the building and gap as the building expands due to the weather (of course they will start them all in January, why wouldn't you). This made me picture a wooden elevator like in the Flintstones or something.
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# ? Mar 9, 2015 18:45 |
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That would be fun, but sadly its more then likely going to look like a smokestack.
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# ? Mar 9, 2015 18:55 |
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Guys in the siding or plumbing trades usually go to the site at night and strip everything they installed if they don't get paid. It's like a lien, except immediate and personally gratifying. Also, I have it on good authority that there's like a 50/50 shot on any given project that the general contractor will attempt to avoid payment via bankruptcy and numbered companies, so this is a pretty everyday kind of thing.
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# ? Mar 9, 2015 19:10 |
Yeah, in Australia my FIL used to run a cabinetry business, and that was basically how they operated. If their project fails they declare bankruptcy and drive their BMW around the corner to the office of their brand new company and just go "welp no one's getting paid too bad so sad"
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sbaldrick posted:The other fun things is those all wood buildings that can be 6 stories tall in Ontario, they have to have an elevator. Which means given the current cheap building environment, means there is a good chance they will be on the outside of the building and gap as the building expands due to the weather (of course they will start them all in January, why wouldn't you). It was still smoldering yesterday when I passed the site
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PT6A posted:Hey, remember that discussion a little while back about Alpha House and how people were attacking me for saying it was lovely and bad for the neighbourhood? Well, as it turns out, it's also bad for its clients. There was a fire there recently that killed someone, likely due to the same chronic understaffing and lack of fucks given that results in the many negative effects to the surrounding community. It turns out, too, that I'm not the only person who's had problems with them being nearby. For your consideration: http://www.reddit.com/r/Calgary/comments/2yeyr0/can_someone_explain_the_purpose_of_alpha_house_to/ What is wrong with you?
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# ? Mar 9, 2015 19:38 |
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Professor Shark posted:What is wrong with you? Typical neoconservative diagnosis of lacking a soul
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# ? Mar 9, 2015 19:47 |
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Professor Shark posted:What is wrong with you? Nothing. Apparently I just have no particular love of crime, harassment, drug use, and the scattering of biohazards near places where I live, unlike many folks in this thread. If you want to live in a neighbourhood filled with poo poo, piss, puke, needles, junkies, empty Listerine bottles, and all other manners of detritus, go hog wild, but recognize that not all of us do. This is literally a facility that attracts people who are too hosed up for normal shelters, or who've been barred for criminal behaviour. If it must be located somewhere, and I suppose it must, then the staff must ensure that they are responsible community members and do something about the negative externalities of the facility. What they shouldn't do is ask surrounding businesses and residents to please not call the cops when they're being harassed by some loving junkie or pisstank! PT6A fucked around with this message at 19:52 on Mar 9, 2015 |
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Neoconservative is a foreign policy thing. PT6A and his fellow Calgarians are from a class of people as old as human society: those who want all the positive products of society to flow towards them while all the negative products flow away from them. There are societal actions that can reduce drug addiction rates, improve rehab success rates, and so on. Albertans don't want to undertake them because it would require a hit to their incomes and standard of living, but neither do they want to live with the negative consequences of that self-centered choice. It's grotesque from my point of view.
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Heavy neutrino posted:Neoconservative is a foreign policy thing. PT6A and his fellow Calgarians are from a class of people as old as human society: those who want all the positive products of society to flow towards them while all the negative products flow away from them. No, I want Alpha House to go away, and redirect all the funding they're getting to the Drop-In Centre and the Mustard Seed, both of which have a much better record of actually helping people while not being an unmentionable loving blight to the community. Put the money into mental healthcare. Put the money anywhere but in a facility whose sole purpose is to take in people who are too hosed up out of their mind that even normal homeless shelters don't want them. This is not some grand crusade I'm on against shelters and addiction treatment facilities -- these are necessary. This is about a specific one, out of several in the city, that is heinously run, and is having a negative effect on the community around it. Trying to paint opposition to one facility that's run like poo poo as some kind of broader NIMBY, anti-homeless thing is ridiculous. PT6A fucked around with this message at 19:59 on Mar 9, 2015 |
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PT6A posted:No, I want Alpha House to go away, and redirect all the funding they're getting to the Drop-In Centre and the Mustard Seed, both of which have a much better record of actually helping people while not being an unmentionable loving blight to the community. Put the money into mental healthcare. Put the money anywhere but in a facility whose sole purpose is to take in people who are too hosed up out of their mind that even normal homeless shelters don't want them. Yeah I shouldn't have targeted you because I know that you're in favor of policies that would greatly improve the outcomes of some of society's most disadvantaged, but it annoys me to no end when I talk to people who just want more poo poo for themselves, at the expense of others, and then turn around to complain about the negative by-products of their choices.
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PT6A posted:Trying to paint opposition to one facility that's run like poo poo as some kind of broader NIMBY, anti-homeless thing is ridiculous. No, you see, there's no room for nuance here. You're either a grand crusader for the Light or a cackling hyperconservative.
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# ? Mar 9, 2015 20:37 |
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Wow no need to dogpile it isn't as if it was a childrens hospital or something this was just a place for low life scum.
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# ? Mar 9, 2015 20:43 |
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flashman posted:Wow no need to dogpile it isn't as if it was a childrens hospital or something this was just a place for low life scum. People keep bringing that up, despite the fact I never said I oppose having hospitals near me, I don't have a problem with the Children's Hospital, and I actually donated to the Children's Hospital. Again, my point was purely, only ever about externalities. And, yes, that applies even to things that are as unambiguously good and necessary as hospitals and schools. The initial discussion was about planning, and there is no reason we should ignore proper planning procedures just to save a bit of time. It's not good for the facility, it's not good for the community. A lot of people around here seem to have a fundamental problem with having it pointed out that even good things can have negative effects. It's not meant to be an attack on those things, it's just a reality.
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PT6A posted:People keep bringing that up, despite the fact I never said I oppose having hospitals near me, I don't have a problem with the Children's Hospital, and I actually donated to the Children's Hospital. Again, my point was purely, only ever about externalities. And, yes, that applies even to things that are as unambiguously good and necessary as hospitals and schools. The initial discussion was about planning, and there is no reason we should ignore proper planning procedures just to save a bit of time. It's not good for the facility, it's not good for the community. Its because your attacks always come at a personal level or are too generalized to be applied to the stuff you lash out against. You didnt argue that one specific place was bad, you lumped everyone that could and would use it as a blight on society without ever mentioning other places for these people to go or how to fix the issue with the place other than "prevent it from ever being built". Youre usually a fairly reasonable person but sometimes you just dont think about the vile you toss then get offended when it comes back on you.
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PT6A posted:A lot of people around here seem to have a fundamental problem with having it pointed out that even good things can have negative effects. It's not meant to be an attack on those things, it's just a reality. A lot of people, and not solely around here, lack comprehension of "nuance". It manifests on both sides in any topic which is uncomfortable enough to cause a polarizing backlash. You are correct in your assertions regarding what is clearly a terribly run shelter. Other people are correct in asserting it would be better run if Alberta put more money into rehabilitation programs. A reasonable person wouldn't have a problem agreeing with both. Unfortunately, very few people are able to juggle two conflicting opinions like that and choose to just take the easy road out: throw poo poo at the posters who aren't in line with what is currently socially acceptable, or who they simply don't agree with. Our discourse is being increasingly eroded by highly dogmatic partisanship. Rime fucked around with this message at 21:16 on Mar 9, 2015 |
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