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notthegoatseguy posted:Lots of characters in the MCU bear little to no resemblance to their comic counterparts, or in the case of characters that have existed for decades, might be a combination of characters from different comic timelines. Daisy in AOS is at least partially Inhuman and had to go through that process for her powers to activate. In the comics she is born with her powers though strangely doesn't have an X gene. I was wondering the same thing about Graviton recently. He's just sort of chilling out in his box still, I guess. Seems odd that not another mention has occurred about him. Also, since this has sort of become the de facto MCU thread... My wife and I are re-watching all the Phase 1/2 MCU movies leading into Avengers: AOU (and we don't feel like sitting through 27 hours of movies in the theater). We are on Iron Man 3, and ultimately, what was the point of the Extremis storyline? I remember it seemed to be neatly sorted out in S1 of Agents of Shield, but it was a storyline that really didn't pan out into much other than revealing a small portion of Hydra poo poo. So what was the point really? I never read Iron Man comics, so is it something that eventually ties back in a more meaningful way in Civil War or Age of Ultron?
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The individual Marvel movies aren't written with a wider goal. They're self contained.
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Aphrodite posted:The individual Marvel movies aren't written with a wider goal. They're self contained. I don't agree with that at all. Virtually every movie in Phase 1 (except mybe Incredible Hulk) set up something much bigger when it came time for Avengers, and Phase 2 seems to be on track for the same thing. Although I still can't figure out where GotG fits in. Or the extremis plot other than carrying over for nearly the entirety of Agents season 1.
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Extremis is another one of Tony's good ideas that got out of hand. At this point it's fairly self-contained as a storyline. Maybe Age Of Ultron has some connection to Extremis. Plus, Extremis is a great way to give a lot of people superpowers quickly, a non lethal version like the one Pepper has could make the Civil War storyline more interesting. That and the Inhumans.
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That's because that was phase 1. The first movies. Even something as big as SHIELD disbanding is unlikely to be a major thing in Avengers 2. I don't see how Thor 2 is going to be relevant at all either. Iron Man 3 is the reason Tony builds the Ultron project though. And GotG is actually setup for Avengers 3. It has Thanos in it searching for the Infinity Gems. Aphrodite fucked around with this message at 00:37 on Mar 9, 2015 |
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CAPT. Rainbowbeard posted:Extremis is another one of Tony's good ideas that got out of hand. At this point it's fairly self-contained as a storyline. That actually makes a lot of sense. Maybe the extremis stuff has run its course, but it could work its way back in because it does set up tons of interesting scenarios. Because of the superpowered people it creates, there's almost no way it doesn't get brought back up in Civil War, at the very least.
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Doronin posted:Although I still can't figure out where GotG fits in.
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Aphrodite posted:That's because that was phase 1. The first movies. As it pertains to Avengers AOU, most of the interviews I've read recently seems as if that AOU is going to really be about the Avengers team itself. The relationships between them and so forth while they deal with Ultron. Much more of a character study, it seems, than Avengers was just introducing the idea of them all assembling to fight threats against Earth. So if that's true, then I could imagine very little of the previous movies really impacting it all that much. But I could see it, absolutely, setting the tone for the next phase after Ant Man.
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Doctor Spaceman posted:GotG grinds to a dead stop at several points to set up things for Avengers 3. It's probably the worst MCU movie for cramming in unnecessary set up. As awesome as a movie as it was, I agree. It's only a 'phase 2' movie in the sense that it released in 2014. Not because anything in that story might actually matter to the MCU in phase 2. Unless they really go deep on terregenesis or go somewhere unexpected with Vision.
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I've yet to see a single argument for Thanos' inclusion in Guardians of the Galaxy that has anything to do with the quality of Guardians itself. I don't think history will look back on that film as kindly as people do now.
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Doronin posted:I was wondering the same thing about Graviton recently. He's just sort of chilling out in his box still, I guess. Seems odd that not another mention has occurred about him. When Garret & Ward break into The Fridge, Quinn takes the box with Graviton in it, so he's wherever Quinn is. Maybe we'll see them again when they need a filler episode?
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My takeaway from IM3 was that Tony was trying to improve Iron Man so much that it was at the cost of his other relationships. So instead of improving it, he just said gently caress it and blew it all up. I'm sure the inspiration for Ultron for automated Iron Man world saving is so Tony doesn't personally have to see to the super-heroing as kind of a half measure.
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Ultron's AI is going to partly be the AI of the one robotic arm he's always yelling at. It got tired of the abuse, and moved over to the Ultron project...
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Aphrodite posted:That's because that was phase 1. The first movies. Thor 2 revolves around Malekith trying to get his hand on an Infinity Gem. The Aether is an Infinity Gem, Guardians of the Galaxy show this while the Collector is talking about them. Dan Didio posted:I've yet to see a single argument for Thanos' inclusion in Guardians of the Galaxy that has anything to do with the quality of Guardians itself. 1. Thanks was not required for Guardians, strictly speaking. You're right. At this point, he's about as important to the movie as Emperor Palpatine was to The Empire Strikes Back. Gamora and Drax have a history with him, and by taking a little time out now to deal with that they save exposition time later. Again, he's not really required for the core story being told there. For the overarching plot line, yes, but not the single movie's. 2. Perhaps. We will see.
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Dan Didio posted:I've yet to see a single argument for Thanos' inclusion in Guardians of the Galaxy that has anything to do with the quality of Guardians itself. Eh, he's a big-deal character in space-stuff and the scene revealed to a lot of people who Lokis benefactor in Avengers was, I thought it worked fine. e: oh also Thanos tasked Ronan with finding the macguffin without which he couldn't have destroyed the planet  Was it necessary to the plot? No, but it fits in with Loki in Avengers.
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Mar 9, 2015 02:39
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CAPT. Rainbowbeard posted:Thor 2 revolves around Malekith trying to get his hand on an Infinity Gem. The Aether is an Infinity Gem, Guardians of the Galaxy show this while the Collector is talking about them. But he doesn't want it because it is one. All the movie ultimately does is move where it is.
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Aphrodite posted:But he doesn't want it because it is one. But it is one. And it's a majestic, complex tapestry. 
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Agent Carter Season 2 update! http://www.cinemablend.com/television/What-Agent-Carter-May-Look-Like-It-Gets-Second-Season-70530.html
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Ensign_Ricky posted:Agent Carter Season 2 update! Agent Carter 2 set in 1940s Hollywoodland? 
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Martout posted:Eh, he's a big-deal character in space-stuff and the scene revealed to a lot of people who Lokis benefactor in Avengers was, I thought it worked fine. Thanks for continuing the trend.
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MikeJF posted:Agent Carter 2 set in 1940s Hollywoodland? omg season 2 in hollywood would just be amazinnnngggg
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Dan Didio posted:Thanks for continuing the trend. Of thinking it was inoffensive to have him in there? Oh haha it's Dan Didio I'm responding to, I'm sorry everyone
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Martout posted:Of thinking it was inoffensive to have him in there? Oh haha it's Dan Didio I'm responding to, I'm sorry everyone Don't be dense.
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Infinity War was really just Marvel's prediction for this thread.
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Daredevil trailers are fair game here, right? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAy6NJ_D5vU
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Dan Didio posted:Don't be dense. Tell me about S.H.I.E.L.D.
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BreakAtmo posted:Daredevil trailers are fair game here, right? That show just keeps looking better and better to me.
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BreakAtmo posted:Daredevil trailers are fair game here, right? Looks awesome. I love the opening voiceover from Kingpin that essentially is a hero's monologue.
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BreakAtmo posted:Daredevil trailers are fair game here, right? Not really a big fan of Daredevil since my main exposure was the Fox Spiderman Cartoon (?) and the bad Ben Affleck movie but this looks pretty good so far!
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The cool thing about the MCU is that starting with Captain America, everything has been very meticulously planned out so that the back story will lead up to Avengers 3. The nice thing though is that each movie is still self contained, so you don't have to have some crazy amount comic book knowledge to have an appreciation for whats going on. The Iron Man movies have kind of stood on their own with only vague references to Avengers. Iron Man 3 was good because it was more about Tony Stark and his neuroses rather than him just blowing poo poo up in his suit like Iron Man 2. The point of Iron Man 3 was that even without the suit, he is a hero. Including the infinity gems is a great and relatively easy way to have a macguffin that eventually has a point to it.
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It'll be interesting to look back after Avengers 3 is out (although by then people will be debating whether Black Panther will return for Avengers 5) and see the whole set of movies they set out to make. They'll have basically made a 21-episode season of 2.5 hour episodes of a super expensive serialized TV show. Even long-running series like James Bond and Godzilla don't keep continuity for more than 2-3 movies. And now every other studio in Hollywood is digging through their library trying to flag franchises for massive iteration.
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I have doubts that the current production slate has been sitting on some whiteboard since 2006-ish, just waiting to be made.
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Dan Didio posted:I have doubts that the current production slate has been sitting on some whiteboard since 2006-ish, just waiting to be made. They've got movie plans through something like 2028 already.
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jivjov posted:They've got movie plans through something like 2028 already. Do you think the situation in Marvel Studios is the same now as it was when they started this venture in earnest?
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Dan Didio posted:Do you think the situation in Marvel Studios is the same now as it was when they started this venture in earnest? We know they've been planning this since pre-production of Avengers 1 at the very earliest, so it's gonna be 2011 at least.
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Dan Didio posted:Do you think the situation in Marvel Studios is the same now as it was when they started this venture in earnest? I have no doubt that they've had a general roadmap plan since before Iron Man 1 ever hit theaters.
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If I remember some dates right, 2010 is really the earliest time they could have comprehensively planned out all the films we know are coming at the moment and even then, I doubt most of them were meticulously planned out in some kind of inter-locking map. jivjov posted:I have no doubt that they've had a general roadmap plan since before Iron Man 1 ever hit theaters. That's a different thing from what I said, though. Rarity posted:We know they've been planning this since pre-production of Avengers 1 at the very earliest, so it's gonna be 2011 at least. 'This'? Shirkelton fucked around with this message at 00:56 on Mar 11, 2015 |
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Mar 11, 2015 00:54
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I hope they don't gently caress this episode up too much with Sif amnesia bullshit
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I hope Sif just gets a TV show at this point. Sif: Agent of Asgard
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She's carrying a sword dude She's good
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