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JerryLee posted:In standard: Ashiok, Kiora, soon to be Narset and Sarkhan, Sidisi, Mantis Rider, Pearl Lake Ancient, Temur Ascendancy just for starters Thank you for telling me how Pyrbolast is good and would make sense in Standard. Namaste.
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Why are we speculating in minute detail about something someone posted offhandedly as a joke that will never actually happen? Oh, of course, it's the Magic thread.
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Mar 10, 2015 00:57
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Entropic posted:Why are we speculating in minute detail about something someone posted offhandedly as a joke that will never actually happen? Oh, of course, it's the Magic thread. I guess the "What could go wrong?" part wasn't explicit enough. A lot could go wrong, guys. Anyways, forget Pyroblast. Considering these spoilers, what Wizards should REALLY do is reprint Painter's Servant. What could go wrong?
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Mar 10, 2015 00:59
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qbert posted:I guess the "What could go wrong?" part wasn't explicit enough. I mean I'd play Painter forever if they did that.
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Mar 10, 2015 01:02
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qbert posted:I guess the "What could go wrong?" part wasn't explicit enough. There's actually very little that's "gone wrong" with Pyroblast in any format it's ever been legal in if one isn't just butt bothered by the existence of a red hoser that counters spells and destroys permanents.
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Mar 10, 2015 01:04
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These idiots getting butt bothered, you tell 'em JerryLee! It was fine in Ice Age block constructed and any nimrod who tells you otherwise has an obvious agenda.
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Mar 10, 2015 01:08
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Make all ten possible pyroblasts, print them are mythic.
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Mar 10, 2015 01:17
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cheetah7071 posted:Make all ten possible pyroblasts, print them are mythic. It's late so I'm not functioning as well as I could, but it's twenty right? Since it's directional so to speak. Yeah, Hydroblast/Pyroblast, for the ten colour pairs. Print them at mythic. 
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Mar 10, 2015 01:20
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Serperoth posted:It's late so I'm not functioning as well as I could, but it's twenty right? Since it's directional so to speak. Yeah, Hydroblast/Pyroblast, for the ten colour pairs. I wonder - if you did that, which one would be the best?
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Mar 10, 2015 01:23
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Serperoth posted:It's late so I'm not functioning as well as I could, but it's twenty right? Since it's directional so to speak. Yeah, Hydroblast/Pyroblast, for the ten colour pairs. I was assuming no friend colored ones.
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Mar 10, 2015 01:27
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Attorney at Funk posted:I wonder - if you did that, which one would be the best? The ones that counter blue
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Mar 10, 2015 01:28
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TheKingofSprings posted:The ones that counter blue The green one because that's the one that would get played in Abzan.
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Mar 10, 2015 01:31
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The ones in Temur colors because I would get to play all the best colors and hate on all the best colors!
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Mar 10, 2015 01:38
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While we're playing fantasy red hate card, I'd love to see: 1R: Choose one: Gain control of target white or blue instant or sorcery. You may choose new targets. Gain control of target white or blue permanent (or creature) until end of turn. It gains haste. I feel like the color limiting makes the act of treason effect reasonable at that cost (and the permanents certainly cranks ups the power level to possibly legacy-playable, so it should probably be creatures), but I think the first mode would be cute as gently caress while being a counterspell some of the time.
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Mar 10, 2015 02:06
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I love Reverberate don't play with my emotions like this.
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Mar 10, 2015 02:07
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Angry Grimace posted:Allegedly, the mono-color morph dragons are not supposed to be good outside trying to draft Dragon tribal. Even in the dragon tribalest dragon tribal deck that ever dragon tribaled, the 4/4 you're spending 10 mana on will still only produce maybe two extra +1/+1 counters. It's like those Kamigawa spirits that charged you 7 mana for a 4/4 because of Soulshift. It feels really, really lame. Sigma-X posted:While we're playing fantasy red hate card, I'd love to see: The first effect only works on an instant, but red only gets the second effect on sorceries. Lottery of Babylon fucked around with this message at 03:03 on Mar 10, 2015 |
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Mar 10, 2015 03:00
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I think it's pretty much a given that tribal decks don't really work outside EDH when the tribe in question is made up of nothing but 4cmc+ creatures by design. That being said, I threw up a quick sketch for a mono-R Dagrons! deck in the Brewhaus thread if anyone is interested. There is so much incidental burn flying around (really, Dragon Roar is kind of nuts), I think it could work.
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Mar 10, 2015 03:12
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Lottery of Babylon posted:Even in the dragon tribalest dragon tribal deck that ever dragon tribaled, the 4/4 you're spending 10 mana on will still only produce maybe two extra +1/+1 counters. They are 3/3.
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Mar 10, 2015 03:12
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Wizards uploaded a Battle for Zendikar trailer; it doesn't show much but it appears the hedrons will be just as prominent as last time.
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Mar 10, 2015 03:15
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bhsman posted:Wizards uploaded a Battle for Zendikar trailer; it doesn't show much but it appears the hedrons will be just as prominent as last time. Didn't the hedrons already all activate and open though? And the Eldrazi already awoke and rampaged around transforming/wrecking the world? That trailer seems as though it should be set during Worldwake or maybe the beginning of ROE.
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Mar 10, 2015 03:27
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Angry Grimace posted:They are 3/3. 3/3 if you cast directly for 6, 4/4 if you megamorph for 3+7. Both of those feel pretty lousy.
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Mar 10, 2015 03:31
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JerryLee posted:Didn't the hedrons already all activate and open though? And the Eldrazi already awoke and rampaged around transforming/wrecking the world? Maybe saving Ugin DID change the timeline outside Tarkir? Probably not
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Mar 10, 2015 03:32
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Rinkles posted:Maybe saving Ugin DID change the timeline outside Tarkir? Probably not I hope there's a card where they push Hedrons on Bolas' big stupid head while laughing at him. Doink.
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Mar 10, 2015 03:35
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JerryLee posted:Didn't the hedrons already all activate and open though? And the Eldrazi already awoke and rampaged around transforming/wrecking the world? or maybe anime jace goes back in time to save zendikar from himself becoming the mind sculptor
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Mar 10, 2015 03:37
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Is nahiri dead? It'd be cool if she got a playable new card.
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Mar 10, 2015 03:38
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Fingers McLongDong posted:Is nahiri dead? It'd be cool if she got a playable new card. The non-answer during the PAX panel was "you haven't seen the last of Nahiri"
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Mar 10, 2015 03:42
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bhsman posted:Wizards uploaded a Battle for Zendikar trailer; it doesn't show much but it appears the hedrons will be just as prominent as last time. They've been short-stroking it over hedrons since Zendikar rotated. Fingers McLongDong posted:Is nahiri dead? It'd be cool if she got a playable new card. The answer is essentially, "Nahiri is alive," but they wouldn't commit to that. Unless she's changed colors, I'm not expecting her unless Gideon's become way less mono-white in the preceding years.
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Mar 10, 2015 03:42
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I hope that they once again print Hedron Crab in a set with creatures who make it actual impossible to win via milling.
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Mar 10, 2015 03:44
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rabidsquid posted:I hope that they once again print Hedron Crab in a set with creatures who make it actual impossible to win via milling. "Hedroner Crab", exiles instead of milling, but otherwise functionally similar. Do it, Wizards.
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Mar 10, 2015 03:52
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Landfall - search target opponent's library for a legendary eldrazi creature card and put it into his or her graveyard. then he or she shuffles his or her graveyard.
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Mar 10, 2015 04:00
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cheetah7071 posted:Landfall - search target opponent's library for a legendary eldrazi creature card and put it into his or her graveyard. then he or she shuffles his or her graveyard. *colorless creature card with cmc 8 or more **exile it
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Angry Grimace posted:The answer is essentially, "Nahiri is alive," but they wouldn't commit to that. Unless she's changed colors, I'm not expecting her unless Gideon's become way less mono-white in the preceding years. Well, he was joining the Boros last time we saw him.
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Mar 10, 2015 04:01
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Oraculum Animi posted:**exile it 
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Mar 10, 2015 04:03
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Hate that I keep missing these discussions I would have really liked to participate in by like a day. In regards to the B good guy, the way I see it is this: Black is suppossed to be ambitious, self-centered and amoral. And all of those are bad in too great amounts, but they make for a perfectly decent heroic character. How: There is a person/place/thing/group that I care about. Without this person/place/thing/group I feel that my life would be significantly devalued. They contribute positively to my life so it is my desire to maintain their presence. Something is threatening that person/place/thing/group. I am the only one with enough power/competence/willingness to cross boundaries to stop them. If I do not stop them I will lose the person/place/thing/group that matters to me and my life will be, if not worthless, at the very least worth less. Solution: They must be stopped and it must be I who stops them. Bonus points: Character has the chance to stop the threat, but it will cost them their lives. In the end their self-preservation wins out. After that their goal becomes to amass enough power so that no threat can take from them again. Flawed hero in Black. Adder Moray fucked around with this message at 04:12 on Mar 10, 2015 |
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I think that black enchantment might be a playable sideboard card for blue black control mirrors. Edit: any black control mirror really. Wezlar fucked around with this message at 04:20 on Mar 10, 2015 |
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Mar 10, 2015 04:18
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 I thought the hedrons were crafted by Ugin and Nahiri to hold in the Eldrazi, but it seems like they were either already there or were co-opted by the Eldrazi once they were free.
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Lottery of Babylon posted:3/3 if you cast directly for 6, 4/4 if you megamorph for 3+7. Both of those feel pretty lousy. This was clearly intentional. They even say so right off the bat in the development article: One of the first ideas I came up with to encourage dedicated "Dragon-drafters" was to create a cycle of Dragons with megamorph. This meant that you could put a Dragon into the three-mana slot in your deck. Because megamorph allows you to turn up creatures and put +1/+1 counters on them, these Dragons could have slightly smaller stats than the typical Dragon, given that a frequent case use would still be to deploy them effectively as 4/4 flying creatures with upside. One thing I love about megamorph is that the mechanic tweak strongly incentivizes you to go through the face-down state. We tuned these Dragon cards to a power level where they are likely to be passed around a bit to drafters who prioritize them higher than others for the Dragonness. Cards should drift to the players in that archetype, rather than being auto first picks.
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Pyrolocutus posted:"Hedroner Crab", exiles instead of milling, but otherwise functionally similar. That would make modern mill X times better.
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:This was clearly intentional. They even say so right off the bat in the development article: I'm not sure how different this format will be than your "usual" draft environment, but if it isn't too strange, I wouldn't be surprised if the dragons are a bit better than they look, especially the white lifelink one.
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ShadeofBlue posted:I'm not sure how different this format will be than your "usual" draft environment, but if it isn't too strange, I wouldn't be surprised if the dragons are a bit better than they look, especially the white lifelink one. Khans showed us that basically anything w/ morph is playable.
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