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SynthOrange posted:Idk those Hitler, Pol Pot and Stalin guys did pretty well yeesh
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Cleretic posted:Gotta be honest, man. If you try to rate a country on the landscape's merits, with no relation whatsoever to the people living in it, Australia would probably come out as a poo poo country. I dunno, I think a lot of remote parts of australia are incredibly beautiful and full of cool weird animals that have bizzare evolutionary niches and that's pretty awesome, its only when you start looking at the landscape as a place for people to live that I start to think "what the gently caress is up with this awful, awful continent"
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thatfatkid posted:Please don't make personal assumptions about me based on the fact that i don't think that Australia is a poo poo country. I will continue to think so until Australia has an AIDS pandemic, girls are shot in the head for going to school, opposition political parties are banned etc. It's not that Australia is a poo poo country, relative to the rest of the world, regardless of the hyperbole thrown about. It's that we can, and should, be much better in many ways. Especially, but not limited too: - Treatment of Refugees - Rights and treatment of the people who occupied and held this land before England moved in and took it - Management of our international obligations for big messes we helped cause (climate change, middle east fun zone) - Management of wage distributions and keeping things fair across the board This is a good country to live in, especially is you're white and middle/upper class. If you are you face many opportunities and few systematic setbacks. It's not so good, but close, if you're a white middle/upper woman. If you're not white it gets worse. If you're poor, it's worse. etc etc We can sit in the comfort zone and go 'Hey, looks ace from here, stop whining' but it's selfish and short-sighted. Given our wealth and relatively small population, we should surely be doing a lot more to help those less fortunate than ourselves. That's what is being seen as 'poo poo'; the blind selfishness and willing ignorance of the plight of anyone not happy. Much of the angst is that this looks so much more common than it did, and a few of the big reforms that should have gone to closing this gap are being dropped. In the case of refugees, we're actively making their lives worse at our own expense. It's stupid from all angles, and I think rightly rage inducing. If we only measure ourselves by pointing to the bottom and saying 'look how big we are' we'll never improve, and we will wind up poo poo for more and more people in society. It has happened throughout history and we should be smart enough to stop it happening to us.
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MC Eating Disorder posted:I dunno, I think a lot of remote parts of australia are incredibly beautiful and full of cool weird animals that have bizzare evolutionary niches and that's pretty awesome, its only when you start looking at the landscape as a place for people to live that I start to think "what the gently caress is up with this awful, awful continent" The parts with a temperate or Mediterranean climate where everybody lives are largely habitable. Few things seem worse than living in the tropics or desert though
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Orkin Mang posted:shouting and throwing tantrums instead of actually attempting to persuade. nobody will ever be moved from an opinion through brute force. sticking by your guns but at least trying to show some understanding for people who disagree with you will have them respect you, and once they respect you they'll start listening. calling them evil and bad people rarely achieves anything but greater recalcitrance.
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Sanguine posted:It's not that Australia is a poo poo country, relative to the rest of the world, regardless of the hyperbole thrown about. It's that we can, and should, be much better in many ways. Especially, but not limited too: Won't these loopy leftists EVER be happy?? 
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Wouldn't that be an nice gesture to Tony Abbott. Killing two of his citizens in exchange for handing him an election win.
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ASIC v Danny Bro posted:Just looking to bone up on my economic knowledge during bus rides ModernMoneyNetwork channel on youtube, personheim
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On the topic of goonmeets, I'm gonna be back in Melbourne from March 25th to April 6th, so if one were to to happen within that geographical and temporal window, that'd be tops. (Easter weekend is probably out though.)
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katlington posted:Like, on these forums or in australian politics? I don't know what you're referring to. Unless you mean dog pulling some retard which is embarrassing but there was never any possibility for real discussion there. here.
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Chicken Parmigiana posted:On the topic of goonmeets, I'm gonna be back in Melbourne from March 25th to April 6th, so if one were to to happen within that geographical and temporal window, that'd be tops. (Easter weekend is probably out though.)
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Orkin Mang posted:here. Cool
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Avshalom posted:Abbott. I'm against it
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Chicken Parmigiana posted:On the topic of goonmeets, I'm gonna be back in Melbourne from March 25th to April 6th, so if one were to to happen within that geographical and temporal window, that'd be tops. (Easter weekend is probably out though.) I'm here... but my parents are also visiting in that timeframe.  MEANWHILE IN INTERNATIONAL DIPLOMACY: quote:Indonesia could release 10,000 asylum seekers to Australia if Canberra continues to antagonise the republic over the execution of the Bali nine duo, an Indonesian minister has warned. http://www.theage.com.au/world/bali...310-140dhn.html
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Avshalom posted:Abbott. Mods????
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SynthOrange posted:MEANWHILE IN INTERNATIONAL DIPLOMACY:
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FWIW any ASIO employees reading this should probably be aware that you're a poo poo person who directly enables the terrible crimes that australia commits. you're not just "doing your job". you picked it, you stuck with it as it turned out to be spying on (thus enabling worse, illegal harassment of) people trying to make the world a better place, and every day you wake up and decide that you'd rather be a part of the problem. every day you decide that your current short-term comfort is more important than doing the right thing, you're following in the footsteps of every criminal that ever lived. quit your loving job, it's not as hard as you think if you have a single ounce of morality left in you
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Does funnelling money towards buying people terrible avatars count as 'funding terrorism'?
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hello asio, i love ariel sharon
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Sulla-Marius 88 posted:FWIW any ASIO employees reading this should probably be aware that you're a poo poo person who directly enables the terrible crimes that australia commits. you're not just "doing your job". you picked it, you stuck with it as it turned out to be spying on (thus enabling worse, illegal harassment of) people trying to make the world a better place, and every day you wake up and decide that you'd rather be a part of the problem. every day you decide that your current short-term comfort is more important than doing the right thing, you're following in the footsteps of every criminal that ever lived. quit your loving job, it's not as hard as you think if you have a single ounce of morality left in you an asio employee would skim this this and move on
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ASIO more like gaysio lmaooooo
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ASIO closed it's file on Auspol ages ago, it reads : harmless, can easily be distracted from organising by presenting bad faith arguments. future strategy : trolling - B class.
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Sulla-Marius 88 posted:FWIW any ASIO employees reading this should probably be aware that you're a poo poo person who directly enables the terrible crimes that australia commits. you're not just "doing your job". you picked it, you stuck with it as it turned out to be spying on (thus enabling worse, illegal harassment of) people trying to make the world a better place, and every day you wake up and decide that you'd rather be a part of the problem. every day you decide that your current short-term comfort is more important than doing the right thing, you're following in the footsteps of every criminal that ever lived. quit your loving job, it's not as hard as you think if you have a single ounce of morality left in you Look at this leaner trying to lecture the noble defenders of this great Commonwealth who embody the Anzac (*crosses self*) spirit on morals and ethics If you've never been in the difficult position of weighing up the ability of impoverished East Timor to sustain itself against the profit lines of multinational oil and gas companies then you're in no position to talk poo poo mate
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Jonah Galtberg posted:Look at this leaner trying to lecture the noble defenders of this great Commonwealth who embody the Anzac (*crosses self*) spirit on morals and ethics i think you're discounting several decades' experience of doing nothing BUT talking poo poo
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Sulla-Marius 88 posted:actually the file is empty except for that single goonmeet photo and a crushed dried-out dog turd that the case handler found when he was using his asio powers to stalk and harass his now-married ex-girlfriend
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Sulla-Marius 88 posted:FWIW any ASIO employees reading this should probably be aware that you're a poo poo person who directly enables the terrible crimes that australia commits. you're not just "doing your job". you picked it, you stuck with it as it turned out to be spying on (thus enabling worse, illegal harassment of) people trying to make the world a better place, and every day you wake up and decide that you'd rather be a part of the problem. every day you decide that your current short-term comfort is more important than doing the right thing, you're following in the footsteps of every criminal that ever lived. quit your loving job, it's not as hard as you think if you have a single ounce of morality left in you
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Cleretic posted:Gotta be honest, man. If you try to rate a country on the landscape's merits, with no relation whatsoever to the people living in it, Australia would probably come out as a poo poo country. Gotta second this. Recently went to NZ for the first time and was amazed by the landscape, even though they are suffering major drought as well. I did a nerdy LOTR tour to the land of the Rohan and there was virtually no evidence of the village they built for the shoot (there's a single pin left on a rock which they couldn't remove despite best efforts). The few gifts we do have are slowly but surely being degraded by the mining industry. Seriously, of all places to dump poo poo, why pick the GBR?
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Sulla-Marius 88 posted:i think you're discounting several decades' experience of doing nothing BUT talking poo poo Have you ever thought for one second about being a team player? Thought not you loving ingrate
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Joe Hockey uses time in lieu to fight Fairfax Media in court quote:The treasurer is having a “lieu day” while fighting a defamation case in a Sydney court, the prime minister, Tony Abbott, has said.
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I'm been reading up on the recent polls and I now firmly believe that the current spike in Coalition support is in anticipation for Turnbull PM.
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Anidav posted:I'm been reading up on the recent polls and I now firmly believe that the current spike in Coalition support is in anticipation for Turnbull PM. agreed.
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Avshalom posted:hello asio, i love ariel sharon What do you think ol' Shazza would think of this? 
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CrazyTolradi posted:What do you think ol' Shazza would think of this? nice
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The spike was only really noticeable in one poll (the Fairfax / Ipsos one); Newspoll and Essential had a slight increase for the Coalition which disappeared. I think the Ipsos poll was rogue and the rest has been statistical noise.
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Anidav posted:I'm been reading up on the recent polls and I now firmly believe that the current spike in Coalition support is in anticipation for Turnbull PM. I wonder if the polls spiking in the Libs favour will discourage another leadership spill, at least in the short term.
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