Mr Interweb posted:

Reagan was way more socialist than Bush was, yet conservatives don't seem to mind propping him up as the God of small government conservatism.

Mr Interweb posted:

Is there a recent example of this? I remember McConnell tried to take credit for the improving economy last month.


We all know how the economy exploded when the Republicans had control of both houses of congress and the presidency from 2001 - 2007.


Reagan was way more socialist than Bush was, yet conservatives don't seem to mind propping him up as the God of small government conservatism.

Hell, at least Bush never raised taxes. In that sense, he was more Reagan than Reagan was.

Centripetal Horse posted:

I've fallen quite a bit behind in this thread. Has anyone else noticed the really heavy pushing of, "The Democrat(ic) party is working super-super-hard to sabotage Hillary Clinton," that seems to have popped up all of a sudden? All last week, Rush was bearing down on that idea like it was his job. I mean, it is, but it was like he was getting a bonus for every time he told us that the left was working overtime to torpedo Clinton's presidential hopes. Then, it was on Hannity's show, and Cunningham's. The closest any of them came to providing some sort of motive was, "Obama... legacy... liberals."

What do you figure the motive is? The most obvious motive would seem to be pure Hussein-hating, but it seems like the focus should be shifting at this point. With an election on the horizon, I wouldn't think they'd want to paint Hillary as being an Enemy of Obama, since that sort of puts her on their side, at least a little. Obviously, they need to keep hating Obama, but painting a wedge between Obama and Clinton seems like an odd strategy.

quote:

mcsledge
- Mar. 9, 2015 at 12:36am

Stolen elections …. Can you say Obama.

Hazo posted:

Solid argument. We'd better pack it in, guys.


Honestly I'm a little surprised they're still crying about this. Bush's elections were marred by gerrymandering and shady recounts. But Obama was elected twice, by resounding margins. They're clearly totally the same thing, because Obama bad.

Centripetal Horse posted:

I've fallen quite a bit behind in this thread. Has anyone else noticed the really heavy pushing of, "The Democrat(ic) party is working super-super-hard to sabotage Hillary Clinton," that seems to have popped up all of a sudden? All last week, Rush was bearing down on that idea like it was his job. I mean, it is, but it was like he was getting a bonus for every time he told us that the left was working overtime to torpedo Clinton's presidential hopes. Then, it was on Hannity's show, and Cunningham's. The closest any of them came to providing some sort of motive was, "Obama... legacy... liberals."

What do you figure the motive is? The most obvious motive would seem to be pure Hussein-hating, but it seems like the focus should be shifting at this point. With an election on the horizon, I wouldn't think they'd want to paint Hillary as being an Enemy of Obama, since that sort of puts her on their side, at least a little. Obviously, they need to keep hating Obama, but painting a wedge between Obama and Clinton seems like an odd strategy.

Cognac McCarthy posted:

Bush was elected fairly, and no one can claim to have witnessed him stealing the elections. When Obama "won" these people saw black people panthers at the polling place themselves. Obviously they were turning away white voters.

McDowell posted:

I've heard its a common thing to women to get felt up by 'gay' guys at clubs and stuff, but pretending to be trans? Please.

Tatum Girlparts posted:

Two things come to mind with the recent right wing talking points.

1) How long until one of these guys just admits "Because if I thought I could get away with it I'D sure put on a sun dress and harass some girl in the bathroom like everyone else, right guys? Right?!" because holy poo poo the amount of 'no see this is the world's most elaborate plot to see some tits' just has to be projection right?

The Atlantic posted:

This is as good as it gets within movement conservatism. With that in mind, here are the posts and articles National Review Online pegged to the release of the Ferguson report:

Before the report's release, Heather Mac Donald, a frequent, informed defender of U.S. police agencies, published a preemptive critique. She argued that before DOJ investigators charge Ferguson officials with racism for stopping or arresting a disproportionate number of blacks, they should recognize that blacks there commit more crimes than whites, and that banning police activity that has a disproportionate impact on blacks will make Ferguson less safe for innocents, especially blacks at risk of violent crime.
After the report's release, Brendan Bordelon published a post summarizing the reaction of Milwaukee County Sheriff David Clarke during a Fox News appearance. The lawman characterizes the Justice Department's work as a "witch hunt," says he is "not buying one word of it," and declares that Attorney General Eric Holder has "a genuine hostility ... specifically toward white police officers."
Andrew Johnson focused on how the DOJ dispelled various inaccuracies in the activist narrative of Michael Brown's shooting. At the end, though, he added: "The report does find that the Ferguson Police Department exhibited a systemic racial bias in its policing efforts, with its officers singling out and targeting black residents for various violations, and exchanging multiple racist jokes in emails."
Roger Clegg declared that the DOJ report vindicated Heather Mac Donald's critique.
Andrew McCarthy, relying on intuition and citing no particular evidence, declared the DOJ investigation into Michael Brown's shooting "a pretext" to subject Ferguson's police to a full-scale investigation, all so that DOJ could drum up violations and usurp local control.
Peter Kirsanow declared the DOJ report "a farce, wrapped in a fraud, inside a sham." He focuses on its assertion of racial discrimination. "The report has accomplished its objective," he concluded. "It’s smeared police officers across the country, thereby giving the administration an excuse to exert greater control over local police departments. And it gives credence to the toxic storyline that the country as a whole remains nearly indistinguishable from 1960s Selma."
Ryan Lovelace posted to highlight remarks by Attorney General Holder, who pledged to do "everything he can" to change Ferguson's culture of law enforcement, adding that his agency is "prepared to use all the powers that we have, all the power that we have, to ensure that the situation changes there.”
Thomas Sowell wrote a column disparaging the Ferguson report for relying on disparate impact, writing as if the DOJ documented nothing other than a disproportionate percentage of black people being stopped or arrested. In fact, one could ignore every part of the DOJ report that alleged disparate impact or even racism and still have a long list of alarming abuses to reflect upon.

SpiderHyphenMan posted:

The people on that bus who were singing and didn't get expelled are such lucky little shits goddamn.

quote:

A group of football players at a Christian college in Illinois donned Ku Klux Klan robes and hoods for a skit that was part of a team-building activity By, the Chicago Tribune reported on Friday.

The incident occurred on Feb. 28 as part of an off-season activity in the Wheaton College campus gym, the Tribune reported. The players were split into groups and reportedly parodied several movies. The group who dressed as Klansmen were part of a group of 20 players, some of whom were black.

The skit was reportedly intended as a comic reenactment of a scene from "Bad Boys II," which mocks the KKK, the Tribune reported. Despite the intent of the players who created the skit, the campus community was angered by the racist skit and Wheaton College President Philip Ryken issued a statement to the Tribune in which he condemned the racist skit.

Wheaton College is far from perfect. ... I was shocked when I first heard that symbols with a history of racist violence had been used on our campus. Although I was somewhat relieved to learn — almost immediately — that the skit was intended to subvert racism, not promote it, I also knew that when students heard what had happened, it would understandably cause a lot of distress. Recent incidents have shown us how issues of prejudice and sexual misconduct damage trust and disturb the peace. Sadly, this is a campus where we have sins to confess and people to forgive every day.

Ryken and other staff members reportedly met with one of the organizers of the skit at 1 a.m. on March 1, just hours after it was performed, the Tribune reported.

Team captain, Josh Aldrin, was one of the skit's organizers and one of the black players who participated in the skit. He apologized on Sunday in a letter to the college community.

Popular Thug Drink posted:

i dunno if you can expel someone for saying racist things but you can deffo expel someone for holding a position of responsibility in a university funded organization who permits or even encourages other members to say racist things

Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:

I post tweets and excerpts of Steven Crowder and we know he is a terrible human being. This is so goddamn evil and disgusting I don't even know what to say

Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:

I post tweets and excerpts of Steven Crowder and we know he is a terrible human being. This is so goddamn evil and disgusting I don't even know what to say

STAC Goat posted:

I've been home doing work on my computer so just for no reason I've had Fox News on in the background, and let me tell you, the daytime anchors of Fox News are something else. I'm not sure there's an intelligent person in the bunch. Its really been bizarre to watch a bunch of people who seem to have the minds of children.

I was watching Outnumbered for awhile, which I think may be the dumbest and most offensive show on Fox News and there was this hilarious segment where they were all losing their minds about that UC Irvine "Flag Ban" story. And of course it was a ridiculous exaggeration of the story. In their version it wasn't six students voting to ban flags and then the student body overturning it. It was the millenial progressive hippie dippie student body who doesn't understand loving America and should have their school funding pulled. It was pretty predictable and really silly and sophomoric. What you'd expect from political commentary by MTV VJ Kennedy. But then suddenly one of them flipped out and started ranting.

"I've stayed quite too long... my daddy was in the military (or something) and blah blah love the country blah blah people died for that flag blah blah the veterans who have died for our freedom... I mean, hello! Chris Kyle! American Sniper! Have you seen the movie!?"

Something about that made me start laughing hysterically and nearly pass out.

I've been watching Gretchen Carlson for the last hour and I swear she may have the mind of a six year old. She's spent the entire show watching an empty podium waiting for Hillary Clinton to show. At one point she did detailed reporting on "some woman who walked up to the podium and then left... perhaps to put a paper on it? Or to check the microphone?" She's been REALLY focused on the idea that Clinton gave the emails in paper form rather than electronic, noting that it was "a waste of paper" and that it makes searching the emails so much harder because "there's no right click search option." Because apparently the key to breaking this whole scandal wide open was an Option-F "Benghazi." At one point Greta Van Susteran appeared to be trying to politely explain to Gretchen how Hillary's emails being on her own server mean they're not available in any open files with the State Department. Then she had to explain that reading the emails probably wouldn't cost the government "even a million dollars" let alone the "gazillions" that Gretchen originally suggested.

She just said that Hillary Clinton should take a lesson from Frank Underwood. Now, I don't watch House of Cards but I'm pretty sure Underwood isn't a symbol of good politics.

Rhesus Pieces posted:

Crowder is a boring, paint-by-numbers right wing rodeo clown and is barely worth a dismissive eye roll at this point.

He isn't nearly as interesting as Charles C. Johnson, who may be genuinely crazy and is worth following purely for the inevitable meltdown and/or arrest.

Rhesus Pieces posted:

Crowder is a boring, paint-by-numbers right wing rodeo clown and is barely worth a dismissive eye roll at this point.

He isn't nearly as interesting as Charles C. Johnson, who may be genuinely crazy and is worth following purely for the inevitable meltdown and/or arrest.

Nckdictator posted:

http://www.thefire.org/statement-on-the-recent-fraternity-controversy-at-the-university-of-oklahoma/

Yeah, looks like they can't be expelled since it's a state university.

Pyroxene Stigma posted:

Both aren't worth your attention. The world has good people.

(Just kidding, we're both in this thread, Cruz/Palin 2016)

Cognac McCarthy posted:

Hmm my internet is having problems, and that link won't load for me so maybe they address it in that article, but I seem to recall that public universities can expel students if they can show their presence disrupts the learning environment or makes students feel unsafe.

quote:

Recently uncovered video reportedly featuring members and guests of the Sigma Alpha Epsilon fraternity chapter at the University of Oklahoma singing a racist song on a bus has raised the question of whether the song constitutes protected expression under the First Amendment. Unless there are more factors of which we are not yet aware, the answer is yes.

As a private organization, the SAE national fraternity is free to punish the chapter, as it has done. Other citizens and groups are free to refuse to associate with the fraternity members based on their expression, and students, faculty, and administrators may of course condemn it. If the expression itself is evidence of other unlawful activity, such activity may be investigated. But the Supreme Court of the United States has ruled time and time again that government institutions like the University of Oklahoma may not punish people for expression protected by the First Amendment.

Tatum Girlparts posted:

1) How long until one of these guys just admits "Because if I thought I could get away with it I'D sure put on a sun dress and harass some girl in the bathroom like everyone else, right guys? Right?!" because holy poo poo the amount of 'no see this is the world's most elaborate plot to see some tits' just has to be projection right?

Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:

Cognac McCarthy posted:

Hmm my internet is having problems, and that link won't load for me so maybe they address it in that article, but I seem to recall that public universities can expel students if they can show their presence disrupts the learning environment or makes students feel unsafe.

Xibanya posted:

My boss just said out of the blue that hate crime laws are just a way for greedy blacks to con the court system out of money and upon viewing my shocked face attempted incoherently to explain why and then went to lunch early. When he blurts out something like that I can only assume it's because he heard it from some talking head. Good to know that the full-steam racism is still on.

The Atlantic has a good piece now on how Conservatives are being hilariously hypocritical on the Ferguson report. Hold on, I'm going quote it here but I have to do some juggling because I'm phone posting.


http://www.theatlantic.com/politics...l-brown/387196/

Technical Analysis posted:

Man, my dad drinks the Fox News koolaid something fierce these days, I love him and all, but god forbid the topic turns to politics.

Obama's turned this country into a third world cesspit apparently. And has used the executive order more times than the last 17 presidents combined. And Reagan was so much better because he publicly hammered our enemies, and we're not hammering ISIS even though we've all seen the videos.

He literally shook with rage saying he hopes Obama fucks everyone so he can say I told you so.

All this because I shared a link on Facebook about the Isis Facebook clone getting shut down.

Technical Analysis posted:

Obama's turned this country into a third world cesspit apparently. And has used the executive order more times than the last 17 presidents combined.