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Angry Grimace posted:No poo poo, Sherlock. Don't be willfully ignorant just to argue. Angry Grimace posted:No, I mean sometimes you just don't get anything, and you have to show your opponent what it is. This post pretty much says that you have to show them even if you don't draw.
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Narset is probably better in Legacy Miracles than anywhere in Modern, because she goes really really well with Top. Whether she's good enough to actually see play is another story. If I had Miracles sleeved I'd probably be willing to go to 3x Jace 1x Narset just for shits and giggles but I'm not actually sure that's better than just 4 Jaces. EDIT: the big thing arguing against her there is that the spell you really want to rebound in Miracles, Terminus, you can't because of the nature of Miracle triggers. You can double up on StP I guess, which is underwhelming, or on a draw spell (Dig Through Time) which is better, but there's nothing sorcery speed that you really want to resolve twice on two successive turns in that deck. Drawing an extra card a turn is really nice though. DAD LOST MY IPOD fucked around with this message at 20:34 on Mar 10, 2015 |
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So what I'm hearing is that I should splash green in that deck for Abrupt Decay  Thanks for the Downfall opinions, I'll hold off for now.
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Count Bleck posted:Just like Monastery Mentor, right? I still believe that card will show up in Modern. It plays well with hand disruption cards and it keeps them from being late game blanks by making a powerful token out of them.
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Mar 10, 2015 20:35
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mcmagic posted:This post pretty much says that you have to show them even if you don't draw. quote:+1: Look at the top card of your library. If it's a noncreature, nonland card, you may reveal it and put it into your hand. What's the month after April?
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Mar 10, 2015 20:36
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 Rending Volley R Instant Rending Volley can't be countered by spells or abilities. Rending Volley deals 4 damage to target white or blue creature.
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Mar 10, 2015 20:37
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Well I guess we get a one mana answer to twin
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Mar 10, 2015 20:38
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Snacksmaniac posted:Well I guess we get a one mana answer to twin Yeah, pretty much. Now, I have decide how I want to chance my sideboard for my Dredgevine deck since the Abrupt Decays are in there specifically for twin.
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Mar 10, 2015 20:39
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Snacksmaniac posted:Well I guess we get a one mana answer to twin Can you spellskite that?
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Mar 10, 2015 20:39
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Zoness posted:Can you spellskite that? Is spellskite white or blue?
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Mar 10, 2015 20:40
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:What's the month after April? Its a semantic discussion borne of feigning ignorance over something that's easy to understand with more than 5 seconds of thought. He's also saying "Card is $50, therefore it is good," apparently seriously.
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Zoness posted:Can you spellskite that? Nope!
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Zoness posted:Can you spellskite that? No. Spellskite isn't blue or white. It can't be a target.
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Mar 10, 2015 20:40
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AlternateNu posted:
"gently caress" - A Twin Player.
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So long, Combust. Is there anything in Modern where the extra one damage or the damage prevention is worth an extra mana?
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Mar 10, 2015 20:42
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mcmagic posted:"gently caress A Twin Player" Fixed that for you.
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Entropic posted:So long, Combust. Is there anything in Modern where the extra one damage or the damage prevention is worth an extra mana? Siege Rhino?
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Entropic posted:So long, Combust. Is there anything in Modern where the extra one damage or the damage prevention is worth an extra mana? Baneslayer ange- siege rhino i guess lmao e;fb I havent played enough w/ spellskite and target restrictions to know that interaction thanks for the clarification pals!
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Angry Grimace posted:Its a semantic discussion borne of feigning ignorance over something that's easy to understand with more than 5 seconds of thought. He's also saying "Card is $50, therefore it is good," apparently seriously. That's being bad at card games and not understanding historical trends w/r/t planeswalker prices (Nissa WW is extremely unusual for pw prices hth). Then there's rules illiteracy.
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Mar 10, 2015 20:44
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I can see Twin decks shifting to more of a Tarmo-Twin form and just side out the entire combo against decks with this card. Should be interesting to see how the meta reacts.
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Entropic posted:So long, Combust. Is there anything in Modern where the extra one damage or the damage prevention is worth an extra mana? Siege Rhino and the occasional Doran are the only ones I can think of off hand. Knight of the Reliquary might get too big too fast for both spells.
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What if the twin decks just played mizzium skin?
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Mar 10, 2015 20:46
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I'm pretty sure this entire argument is over two different parses, both reasonable, of a comma in angry grimace's original post. This might be a new low even for the Magic thread.
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Mar 10, 2015 20:46
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JerryLee posted:I'm pretty sure this entire argument is over two different parses, both reasonable, of a comma in angry grimace's original post. don't you dare stop the most beautiful thing that's happened in this thread
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Mar 10, 2015 20:47
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Zoness posted:What if the twin decks just played mizzium skin? It is a common sideboard card.
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Mar 10, 2015 20:48
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Angry Grimace posted:http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/feature/developing-dragons-tarkir-2015-03-09 I look forward to this working as planned exclusively at tables with all serious/experienced drafters and then none of the time at tables with 3+ casual/inexperienced drafters. There's something about  DRAGONS that ends with me getting pick 4 Elite Scaleguards but never seeing the Uncommon dragons table (if I see them at all) in most of my Fate FNM Drafts. I also end up playing against a lot of Lightning Shriekers, but maybe I'm the one who's bad at drafting since I've been on a losing streak since FKK hit.
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Mar 10, 2015 20:49
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Zoness posted:What if the twin decks just played mizzium skin? They've done that already. The important part is that this prevents the deck from ever expecting to combo off turn 4 as long as the opponent has a red source up.
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Modern is already chock full of very narrow, very powerful sideboard cards. In fact that is the problem with modern. I don't think this will help.
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Attorney at Funk posted:
This is goofy, but I like that's actually playable in draft if you first-pick an insane dragon bomb.
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Mar 10, 2015 20:49
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Attorney at Funk posted:
this will go great in my zirilan edh deck no, really it will
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Mar 10, 2015 20:50
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Attorney at Funk posted:
Instant speed red tutor, huh? Sign me up for Stormbreath #5.
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Mar 10, 2015 20:51
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AlternateNu posted:They've done that already. The important part is that this prevents the deck from ever expecting to combo off turn 4 as long as the opponent has a red source up. I haven't seen it in any twin SB's recently. That will change though.
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Mar 10, 2015 20:53
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Attorney at Funk posted:
A red tutor without any random chance 
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Narset probably isn't playable in modern currently but comparing her power level to any Jace is silly and giving any spell rebound is a really difficult ability to evaluate without playtesting.
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mcmagic posted:This post pretty much says that you have to show them even if you don't draw. He was obviously referring to the case where you hit a noncreature/nonland card, since that's the actual situation where it's good and possibly comparable to the Jaces that are guaranteed to draw you a card. Saying "well you don't have to reveal the card [in the situation where Narset is way worse than the planeswalkers people are saying is better]" is missing the point of what other people are arguing against you about.
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Bread Set Jettison posted:A red tutor without any random chance That will never see play outside of Kaalia EDH and maybe limited if you pulled a bomb Dragon.
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AlternateNu posted:That will never see play outside of Kaalia EDH and maybe limited if you pulled a bomb Dragon. I can imagine a Standard deck that really wants to draw its Stormbreath dragons in a certain matchup maybe running it. The fact that it's an instant helps a lot.
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Entropic posted:I can imagine a Standard deck that really wants to draw its Stormbreath dragons in a certain matchup maybe running it. The fact that it's an instant helps a lot. Yeah I can see it as a T4 leave 3 mana open and maybe one red dude back. Then your have the option of strokin flames or searching for a stormbreath if you didnt draw one
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Still pretty notable that a modern red tutor doesnt have a weird random chance stapled on it
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