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Davros1 posted:I think it's more of a case of him trying to have a comeback once the idea is dismissed. Wait, what's 50 shades of grey a ripoff of?
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Killstick posted:Wait, what's 50 shades of grey a ripoff of? It started off as Twilight fan-fiction.
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my dad posted:It started off as Twilight fan-fiction. Wow, i didn't think my opinion of that book could go any lower but here we are.
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# ? Mar 10, 2015 22:52 |
If he loses the Harry Potter angle he has nothing, though; he just has a derivative story in which a smug little kid out-foxes ancient wizards using the power of Bayesian logic. While he could self publish it, obviously, I doubt he'd get an actual book deal, especially given that his entire work here is 50% longer than the Lord of the Rings. e: Also I think Chapter 7 is the one where a certain character drops a certain line which would probably be lethal to the Harry Potter IP if published as some kind of extended/alternate universe work.
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Killstick posted:Wow, i didn't think my opinion of that book could go any lower but here we are. "Mr. Grey" is also the name of the male lead in The Secretary, a film from which 50 shades seems at least a bit derivative.
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# ? Mar 10, 2015 23:18 |
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Am I the white knight? I don't want to be the white knight. And for Yud, especially... e: Can we make JWKS read Fifty Shades next?
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petrol blue posted:Am I the white knight? I don't want to be the white knight. And for Yud, especially... Honestly I'm kind of with you here. Regardless of what the actual story's contents, I don't think there's anything wrong with trying to do something for charity if the rights holder permits. That's a pretty nice gesture, in my opinion. Doubt he'll actually get it done for a lot of reasons, but I don't see much wrong with him trying. It's not like he has said anything terrible about Rowling(that I know of) or tried to do anything without the rights holder's permission, just like him going "Hey want to make money for charities, if we could get this cleared out, which we probably can't, but hey why not try."
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# ? Mar 10, 2015 23:24 |
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The great big catch here is that Yudkowsky runs a
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Please tell me 'sigularitarian' is a real thing? e: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singularitarianism petrol blue fucked around with this message at 23:59 on Mar 10, 2015 |
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petrol blue posted:Please tell me 'sigularitarian' is a real thing? Well, you are reading a religious-text-poorly-disguised-as-a-fanfic written by one. If you mean the specific term, then well...
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Darth Walrus posted:The great big catch here is that Yudkowsky runs a His judgement on an effective charitable contribution is the subject of many blog entries where he explains that people who volunteer are selfish and the world would be better if everyone just worked at their regular job harder instead. Also his view is that a charity that has a one in a billion chance of helping two hundred billion people is a better investment than a charity that has a perfect chance of helping a hundred people. Because statistically, the second one is only half as effective!
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Oooh, is he a libertarian? Can I donate in bitcoins? Cos if so, I got a Bingo!
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petrol blue posted:Oooh, is he a libertarian? Can I donate in bitcoins? Could you ever doubt it?
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# ? Mar 11, 2015 00:08 |
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10 - print "" 20 - goto 10
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SSNeoman posted:This is why I told JWKS that this was a bad idea. Even if this poo poo was good, it's long as gently caress. Yeah. Feynman was a lot of fun to talk to and be around. And a brilliant, sociable, well-rounded guy in general. And also a huge rear end in a top hat. But a smart and entertaining one!
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# ? Mar 11, 2015 00:21 |
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Chapter 6: The Planning Fallacy Part Twelve quote:
Why can’t Harry just buy a cheaper luggage trunk or something? quote:
“She had thought instead of exploding in fury”, said the boy who explodes in fury at every little slight done or perceived to be done to him. quote:
“The need to bend this conversation to his will.” Ugh, could he be any more narcissistic? quote:
Have you ever considered that it was you who didn’t budget properly and over-spent on everything else? quote:
McGonagall has nothing to apologise for. She has treated and dealt with Harry with utterly saintly patience and fortitude, in my opinion.
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# ? Mar 11, 2015 03:35 |
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I remember thinking when I read this part that this guy must be fairly young. Anyone old enough can remember a time before ATMs were on every block and a lot of places didn't take checks. Back then you carried around cash for most of your transactions, and for precisely that reason you always made sure to carry at least some extra around with you. Carrying a hundred dollars in cash, if you could afford to, was routine for many people. So he's made McG stupid not to show some deep aspect of human nature, but because he's young. Given the photos though I'm not sure, how old is this guy?
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Added Space posted:I remember thinking when I read this part that this guy must be fairly young. Anyone old enough can remember a time before ATMs were on every block and a lot of places didn't take checks. Back then you carried around cash for most of your transactions, and for precisely that reason you always made sure to carry at least some extra around with you. Carrying a hundred dollars in cash, if you could afford to, was routine for many people. So he's made McG stupid not to show some deep aspect of human nature, but because he's young. Given the photos though I'm not sure, how old is this guy? Thirty-five.
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Added Space posted:I remember thinking when I read this part that this guy must be fairly young. Anyone old enough can remember a time before ATMs were on every block and a lot of places didn't take checks. Back then you carried around cash for most of your transactions, and for precisely that reason you always made sure to carry at least some extra around with you. Carrying a hundred dollars in cash, if you could afford to, was routine for many people. So he's made McG stupid not to show some deep aspect of human nature, but because he's young. Given the photos though I'm not sure, how old is this guy? He was born in 1982 or thereabouts I think. He is older than 30.
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gently caress if this is not the most insufferable little poo poo to ever have to read about. You're doing the lord's work ploughing through this dreck.
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# ? Mar 11, 2015 04:39 |
quote:"I can understand your point of view," Professor McGonagall said eventually.
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Chapter 6: The Planning Fallacy Part Twelve quote:
Again, it’s not that you took too little money with you, it’s that you spent too much. All the other kids get by with much less, you insufferable brat. quote:
And then everyone in the shop stood up and clapped. quote:
And the salesman’s name? Albert Einstein. quote:
”Me me me me me me me. Me.” quote:
Not stupid, just tremendously obnoxious and unlikable. quote:
I admit I laughed a bit at this.
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# ? Mar 11, 2015 05:47 |
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I dunno, he seems pretty stupid to me. Like most badly written 'smart' characters, he's succeeding solely because the author's in his corner and he's got the script.
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Added Space posted:I remember thinking when I read this part that this guy must be fairly young. Anyone old enough can remember a time before ATMs were on every block and a lot of places didn't take checks. Back then you carried around cash for most of your transactions, and for precisely that reason you always made sure to carry at least some extra around with you. Carrying a hundred dollars in cash, if you could afford to, was routine for many people. So he's made McG stupid not to show some deep aspect of human nature, but because he's young. Given the photos though I'm not sure, how old is this guy? This chest is more expensive than all of Harry's actual school supplies combined. A wand is 7 Galleons, a textbook 9 Galleons. Harry buys a wand, 8 textbooks, and spends maybe another handful of Galleons for clothes and a cauldron. That just about covers his school stuff and is generously around 100 Galleons. This whole passage has been "Harry can't budget and is spoiled" rather than McGonagall doesn't understand human nature and estimation. Harry took out 150% more money than he needed for school supplies but spent it all on nonessential stuff! Additionally, those withdrawn 250 Galleons (plus the 30 he stole) weigh some 20 pounds. I'm surprised his pockets haven't given out. Wizard money is handled terribly in general. Prices from the books per http://www.hp-lexicon.org/wizworld/money.html cursed opal necklace at Borgin and Burkes (HBP6) .....1500 Galleons prize for winning the Triwizard Tournament (GF12) .....1000 Galleons prize from Daily Prophet drawing (PA1) .....700 Galleons amount Fred and George bet (their whole savings) (GF7) .....37 Galleons, 15 Sickles, 3 Knuts unicorn horn (PS5) .....21 Galleons human skull from Borgin and Burkes (HBP6) .....16 Galleons twelve-week course of Apparition Lessons from a Ministry of Magic Apparition Instructor (HBP17) .....12 Galleons amount Hermione had set aside to buy herself a birthday present (PA4) .....10 Galleons Omnioculars (GF7) .....10 Galleons a new copy of Advanced Potion-Making from Flourish and Blotts (HBP9) .....9 Galleons new wand from Ollivanders (PS5) .....7 Galleons pile of candy from the cart on the Hogwarts Express .....11 Sickles, 7 Knuts fare on the Knight Bus from Little Whinging to London (PA3) .....11 Sickles
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petrol blue posted:Am I the white knight? I don't want to be the white knight. And for Yud, especially... Do I need to have read the Twilight series first, or can Fifty Shades be read on a stand-alone basis?
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JosephWongKS posted:Do I need to have read the Twilight series first, or can Fifty Shades be read on a stand-alone basis? AFAIK, the only changes made for the published version were a few names and adjectives .
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Seriously though, the whole "publish for charity" thing comes off as him wanting validation for this monstrosity, that way he can throw it back in any naysayers who call it the poorly written, poorly characterized, piece of crap that it is.
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i81icu812 posted:Wizard money is handled terribly in general. Prices from the books per http://www.hp-lexicon.org/wizworld/money.html At one point yud comments that he just came up with his own standard to actually stick to because rowling had no standard and I honestly can't blame him (for that, specifically, there are many other things I can blame him for.)
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JosephWongKS posted:Do I need to have read the Twilight series first, or can Fifty Shades be read on a stand-alone basis? Honestly, I struggle to see any relationship between the two, despite knowing 50's origin before I started. As is the fine tradition of fanfic. Also following tradition for fanfic, it's bad. quote:
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i81icu812 posted:
I would like to reiterate that Harry is rich and this is his very first opportunity to buy anything magical at all, so why shouldn't he get non-school supplies if he wants to? McGonagall has no reason to limit his spending or, indeed, any legal right to do so. This whole conflict is just a contrived and nonsensical way to set Harry and McGonagall at odds so Harry can expound at length.
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# ? Mar 11, 2015 12:41 |
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because harry is ten years old and a little poo poo who cannot and should not be responsible for his own extravagant spending if i die and leave a moderately rich orphan kid, that kid would not in any sane world be allowed to spend their money on whatever they wanted, because they would spend it all on candy or useless fancy trinkets or their own insane neuroses like harry, here
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# ? Mar 11, 2015 13:06 |
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Canon Harry literally did buy a giant pile of sweets as soon as he had the opportunity to, so trying to hold his spending back isn't totally unreasonable.
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Harry buying sweets made sense though considering he was never given any treats living at the dursley's. Here, he's been living with scientists and has become an incredibly spoiled brat who kicks and screams when he doesn't get what he wants. This whole plot contrivance reminds me of that TvTropes quote about the guy who wrote himself into a corner because his hero didn't bring enough health potions.
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I dunno, this Harry seems to not really get what he wants/"knows" he needs because adults don't take him seriously due to his just being a little kid. If McGonnagall or his parents would present him with sufficient arguments that he doesn't actually need whatever item he is asking for, he would probably go along with it but in his perception no one treats him like he wants to be treated and thus he must be objectively correct. What he doesn't get is that if adults treated with him as an adult, they would lose what little authority they hold over him which is not something they are willing to do, mostly because they care about him and want to make sure he survives to be old enough to be treated as an equal.
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# ? Mar 11, 2015 14:21 |
That's it though: he doesn't want to be treated as an equal, he seems to see himself as more of a prophetic "everyone should listen to me because I am always right and you need to be amazed" thing.
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anilEhilated posted:That's it though: he doesn't want to be treated as an equal, he seems to see himself as more of a prophetic "everyone should listen to me because I am always right and you need to be amazed" thing.
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Chapter 7 – Reciprocation Part One quote:
The “certain nonfiction site” referred to above is wiki.lesswrong.com/wiki/Sequences, if you are curious. quote:
At least he does care for his parents. 10 points to quote:
Isn’t the story set in the early 90s? Why did they go out of their way to buy a set of the Encyclopaedia Britannica that’s more than a decade old? quote:
This has been a pretty good, heartwarming start to the chapter. Harry’s back to being human and likable again. Isn’t this the supposedly “infamous” Chapter Seven? How bad can it get? JosephWongKS fucked around with this message at 02:47 on Mar 12, 2015 |
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JosephWongKS posted:This has been a pretty good, heartwarming start to the chapter. Harry’s back to being human and likable again. Isn’t this the supposedly “infamous” Chapter Seven? How bad can it get? It goes downhill, SO SO fast. Also, I've read through the whole loving thing at http://su3su2u1.tumblr.com
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