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CornHolio posted:An electric-diesel-gasoline hybrid then. Forget the hybrid stuff and just do steam. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blGTfgc0gpk
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MrYenko posted:I want a teeny gas turbine that runs on diesel for a range extender. Gotta have side-pipes then. 
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Mar 10, 2015 20:52
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ilkhan posted:What does the dyno plot of an EV actually look like? 
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CornHolio posted:An electric-diesel-gasoline hybrid then. I've got a better idea. adapt koenigsegg's idea for cheaper cars. the tesla S motor runs up to 14000 RPM and has no transmission and has a torque curve that looks like this.  The honda 1000 CBR revs to 14000 RPM, and has a torque curve that looks like this.  bolt them together, shaft to crank, bolt it strait to the rear end with no hydraulic coupler, and just kill the fuel delivery and kick the valves open on the gas engine below 600 RPM. Just like modern start/stop technology. no 3 engine poo poo, not fifteen hunnert horespower.  just a whole bunch of RPM and torque and 100mpg and 1000 miles to a tank.
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Mar 10, 2015 21:03
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CornHolio posted:An electric-diesel-gasoline hybrid then. Two turbochargers, a supercharger, an electric turbine driven by steam heated by hot exhaust, and another turbine driven by exhaust itself. And an electric heater that boils water for another electric-steam engine which produces electricity. Put those parasitic losses to good use. 
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Mar 10, 2015 21:04
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MrYenko posted:I want a teeny gas turbine that runs on diesel for a range extender. Turbines are known for their fuel efficiency in automotive applications.
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Mar 10, 2015 21:11
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Friar Zucchini posted:Two turbochargers, a supercharger, an electric turbine driven by steam heated by hot exhaust, and another turbine driven by exhaust itself. And an electric heater that boils water for another electric-steam engine which produces electricity. Put those parasitic losses to good use. Suppose we have an engine driving a supercharger, and the turbine of that supercharger in turn turns the crankshaft of the engine. I've just invented a perpetual motion machine!
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Mar 10, 2015 21:14
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CornHolio posted:Suppose we have an engine driving a supercharger, and the turbine of that supercharger in turn turns the crankshaft of the engine. Perpetually in motion to and from the shop for sure
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Mar 10, 2015 23:01
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MrYenko posted:I can't seem to find 93+ octane corn-free fuel here. 89 is pretty common, and if I wanted to flaunt the taxman, Rec90 is comically easy to get, but both would make the engine in the car I burn fuel in go boom. Boat gas stations are typically ethanol free but cost 80 cents more a gallon
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Mar 11, 2015 00:37
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MrYenko posted:I want a teeny gas turbine that runs on diesel for a range extender. Chrysler should do this. And call it the Hellfire (a fitting name as it scorches the bumpers of cars riding up your rear end).
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Mar 11, 2015 02:05
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Well, if they did do a turbine car at least the transmission wouldn't grenade?
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Mar 11, 2015 02:12
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Christobevii3 posted:Well, if they did do a turbine car at least the transmission wouldn't grenade? edit: Dude. I've seen videos of runaway diesels... what about a runaway turbine?  I'm thinking this just worse, and right in front of your face.
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Mar 11, 2015 02:49
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You basically described a 90s or early 2000s chevy without the runaway engine part.
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Mar 11, 2015 02:56
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CharlesM posted:Where do you live again where there are actually any C Maxs? I've seen like 5 total We have a handful at work and will probably be getting more as we replace the Matrices and Focii. I've driven one a few times and they're alright but this: Seat Safety Switch posted:Does the C-Max have some kind of property in its driving dynamics that make literally every one I have seen drive like a complete and total knob? It's getting to the point where I no longer wonder what the white Ford tailgating me is. is probably due to the video-game like hybrid drive display. It's easy to pay too much attention to getting perfect braking scores and staying in EV mode as long as possible.
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Mar 11, 2015 03:15
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SouthLAnd posted:Chrysler should do this. Christobevii3 posted:Well, if they did do a turbine car at least the transmission wouldn't grenade? Friar Zucchini posted:Judging by potential RPMs of 44,500, I'd be more concerned about the engine blowing up. Like, not much car left and broken windows three blocks away, that kind of blowing up. 
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Mar 11, 2015 03:48
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Exactly what I was thinking of. If anyone hasn't seen the Jay Leno's Garage of this car: http://youtu.be/b2A5ijU3Ivs
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Mar 11, 2015 03:56
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SouthLAnd posted:Exactly what I was thinking of. I would gently caress that car.
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Mar 11, 2015 05:06
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Oh my god, that startup.
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Mar 11, 2015 05:38
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Everything about that car is cool as gently caress. The interior styling of the dials and such still looks modern and it's from 1963, it puts a lot of modern day manufacturers to shame.
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Mar 11, 2015 09:23
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88h88 posted:Everything about that car is cool as gently caress. The interior styling of the dials and such still looks modern and it's from 1963, it puts a lot of modern day manufacturers to shame. Chief among them, Chrysler.
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Mar 11, 2015 09:43
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88h88 posted:Everything about that car is cool as gently caress. The interior styling of the dials and such still looks modern and it's from 1963, it puts a lot of modern day manufacturers to shame. Weird, a short-production run concept car that cost approximately $350k (2015 dollars) per example to build has a nice interior? Who would have thought? I bet if you could buy a Chrysler that cost $350k to manufacture today that it would have a pretty loving nice interior.
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Mar 11, 2015 13:08
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:Weird, a short-production run concept car that cost approximately $350k (2015 dollars) per example to build has a nice interior? Who would have thought? I was referring to the styling. It doesn't take ca$hmoney to design something attractive.
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Mar 11, 2015 13:30
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:Weird, a short-production run concept car that cost approximately $350k (2015 dollars) per example to build has a nice interior? Who would have thought? I would like to point out the various super cars of the 80's and 90's, and to a somewhat lesser extent the early 2000's. Very expensive the lot of them, but many with interiors that are in the same league as their fiero replicas. Money doesn't mean style.
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Mar 11, 2015 14:12
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88h88 posted:I was referring to the styling. It doesn't take ca$hmoney to design something attractive. It does take money to design something attractive and functional, and design choices can make it expensive to manufacture the thing.
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Mar 11, 2015 14:13
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Bajaha posted:I would like to point out the various super cars of the 80's and 90's, and to a somewhat lesser extent the early 2000's. Very expensive the lot of them, but many with interiors that are in the same league as their fiero replicas. The Vector interior owns, I will fight you.
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Mar 11, 2015 14:24
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Followup to ecoboost economy chat: 3.5L of supreme efficiency 
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Mar 11, 2015 16:13
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Cocoa Crispies posted:It does take money to design something attractive and functional, and design choices can make it expensive to manufacture the thing. ...but again I was referring to the STYLING and suggesting it still looked great in the year of our lord 2015. And if you want to know exactly what I was talking about when I mentioned the styling it was just the dials. These things look modern. 
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Mar 11, 2015 16:20
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Here's mine from yesterday in my SHO. Almost all highway, but a good chunk of it was at 80 to 85MPH on the Texas tollroad
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Mar 11, 2015 16:25
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eyebeem posted:Followup to ecoboost economy chat: I thought about buying a used ecoboost F150 in a few years, but yea the regular ol' V8 would probably be just fine for less complexity and virutally no difference in fuel economy.
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Mar 11, 2015 16:49
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dreesemonkey posted:I thought about buying a used ecoboost F150 in a few years, but yea the regular ol' V8 would probably be just fine for less complexity and virutally no difference in fuel economy. Having driven both the Coyote and the 3.5T, I can say that the ecoboost is a lot more fun, as well as being better with a trailer. Plus, the ecoboost goes WHOOSH when you spool the turbos up, and that's worth something.
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Mar 11, 2015 16:52
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eyebeem posted:Followup to ecoboost economy chat: Speaking of gently caress-ugly interiors, that is a gently caress-ugly instrument cluster.
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Mar 11, 2015 17:12
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PT6A posted:Speaking of gently caress-ugly interiors, that is a gently caress-ugly instrument cluster. eh, it's more boring than ugly.
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Mar 11, 2015 17:14
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88h88 posted:...but again I was referring to the STYLING and suggesting it still looked great in the year of our lord 2015. I agree it looks good. What others are saying is that implementing a cool design often takes more money because you have more expensive materials and a more expensive fabrication process. Older car interiors or limited run super cars have worse interiors not because they couldn't draw / think of better but because its useless to design what you cannot build and sell. I'm reminded of the story of the GM engineers who deconstructed a Honda or something in the 80's and said they could certainly build a car of this quality, but never sell it at the price Honda could.
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Mar 11, 2015 17:26
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eyebeem posted:eh, it's more boring than ugly. They could've at least picked a font that doesn't look like it's the ideal intersection of boring yet stupidly unconventional, for one. Good lord.
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Mar 11, 2015 17:32
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PT6A posted:They could've at least picked a font that doesn't look like it's the ideal intersection of boring yet stupidly unconventional, for one. Good lord. The job of a typeface in this use case is to be quickly legible, not pretty or conventional. Although I'd be interested to see if manufacturers study that.
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Mar 11, 2015 17:40
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Cocoa Crispies posted:The job of a typeface in this use case is to be quickly legible, not pretty or conventional. If they do, they don't care. 
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Mar 11, 2015 17:51
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Over-stylized, under-thought gauge clusters with lovely lighting choices are a cancer on modern carns. Keep it simple, keep it clean, and for the love of god use red/orange/green lighting so it's easy on the eyes and doesn't gently caress up your night vision. Blue/purple/white are literally the worst possible colors for a gauge cluster's lighting.
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Mar 11, 2015 18:02
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Not so much the font, but the needles on the gauges look like babby's first playskool dials. I deal with analogue gages for precision machining all day, so fat rear end needles that cover 1/8th of the gage sweep is just stupid to me. It looks like a gage simulating an idiot light at this point.
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Mar 11, 2015 18:07
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Guinness posted:. Blue/purple/white are literally the worst possible colors for a gauge cluster's lighting. Hyundai is very guilty of this too, the stereo on their base models has the LCD backlit with a bright blue. It's awful at night.
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Taco Box posted:
It's a Ford. With the exception of the fuel level indicator, the speedometer, and the tachometer, they literally are idiot lights masquerading as gauges. Ford's done that for a long time now.
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