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Cognac McCarthy: Oct 5, 2008; It's a man's game, but boys will play

Yeah I wish people on the Left wouldn't so quickly dismiss it as a non-issue. I haven't read into it too much so it's certainly possible that it's overblown (maybe someone can explain it to me), but you can say "Yeah it's pretty dangerous for government officials to not use their government email accounts to conduct business" without assuming it happened because Benghazi. As uninformed as I am, and as dumb as the explanations coming out of the Right about the scandal are, I've also seen people on the Left on my Facebook say things like "Who CARES what email address they're using?!"

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# ? May 24, 2024 00:03

VitalSigns: Sep 3, 2011

Leofish posted:

I mean, admittedly, it came from a guy who was saying something about how food companies are "making things Halal and not telling us"

Ahahahahaha, whut.

:ninja:

Enjoying your beef brisket, O infidel? Does the taste of 100% all beef appeal to you?
:clint:

Shore am, what's it to ya?
:ninja:

Haha kuffar! It's not just 100% pure beef, it was certified to be so by an agent of the caliphate! Muhammed owns your soul!
:clint:

Nooooo!

There is no God but Allah...

# ? Mar 11, 2015 11:30

Mc Do Well: Aug 2, 2008; by FactsAreUseless

The only 'scandal' about Hillary's server is that it suggests she and Bill knew about the scope and legal justifications of NSA surveillance and tried to insulate themselves from it.

# ? Mar 11, 2015 12:43

CommieGIR: Aug 22, 2006; The blue glow is a feature, not a bug; Pillbug

So that idiot that gave his adopted daughter to another guy who then raped her? He apparently also kept his daughters in locked rooms with security cameras and alarms and had them exorcised to remove demons

http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/davidbadash/justin_harris

quote:

If you've been following the story of Justin Harris, you'll remember the Arkansas State Rep. adopted two little girls, one 3-years old and one 6-years old. He and his wife Marsha, about 14 months later, "re-homed" the girls with another family. The husband in that family, Eric Cameron Francis, a short time later raped the 6-year old and two other little girls.

Over the past week Rep. Harris, who also owns a Christian preschool, has been attacking Arkansas' Dept. of Human Services, which arranged the adoption. He claims that he re-homed the girls because DHS threatened to charge him with child abandonment if he tried to given the girls back to DHS. Harris claims the girls were a danger to his three boys, and the boys were forced to sleep in their parents' locked bedroom.

The Arkansas Times, which broke the story last week, has been covering � and uncovering � every detail in the case.

Now, the Times reports another stunning detail that might explain why the Harrises were so keen on re-homing the girls. According to most people who knew the girls, they were not dangerous but did need specialized care.

But the Harrises believed the girls needed a different type of care, according to a woman who regularly baby sat for the family.

"Chelsey Goldsborough, who regularly babysat for the Harrises, said Mary was kept isolated from Annie and from the rest of the family," a new report in the Arkansas Times today states. "She was often confined for hours to her room, where she was monitored by a video camera. The reason: The Harrises believed the girls were possessed by demons and could communicate telepathically, Goldsborough said."

Harris and his wife once hired specialists to perform an "exorcism" on the two sisters while she waited outside the house with the boys, she said.

Multiple sources who interacted with the family confirmed Goldsborough's account that the Harrises believed the children were possessed, and another source close to the family said that Marsha Harris spoke openly about the supposed demonic possession.

The Harrises deny those claims. Their attorney, Jennifer Wells, said in a statement: "Exorcisms and telepathy are not part of the Harrises' religious practice.

"The first night I was over there, I just broke down and cried with this little girl because I just felt so bad for her," Goldsborough told the Times.

According to Goldsborough, the two girls were kept in separate rooms that were outfitted with locks, alarms and video cameras. They were not allowed to be around each other because of the Harrises' belief in demonic possession and telepathy, she said.

While Annie would be allowed to roam the house and interact with other family members, Mary was often confined to her room, Goldsborough said.

"We couldn't ever take [Mary] out. I'd watch her from a camera. I think it's crazy. They were adopted, so they're going to want TLC."

The babysitter, who has since moved on to college, says the Harrises saw demons in the girls, even in a photograph.

Goldsborough said the Harrises showed her "a picture of [Mary] where they're like, 'You can see the demon rising from her back,' and it just looked like a little 6-year-old to me." [Mary was 4 or 5.] The separate source close to the Harrises reported seeing a video that Marsha Harris said showed a demon interacting with one of the girls. The source said demons were an "obsession" with Marsha Harris.

The Times notes that it has other sources who confirm Marsha Harris said they had the girls exorcised.

"They consider it to be spiritual warfare," the other source said. "I'm a Christian, and I have these beliefs, but this was completely beyond anything I've ever seen or heard about."

Today's article is extensive � almost 7000 words � but the revelations in it are stunning.

Where the gently caress are you, CPS? :ohdear:

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Guys glen beck is currently discussing how grover norquist is a agent of influence for the muslim brotherhood holy poo poo

# ? Mar 11, 2015 14:20

Gin and Juche: Apr 3, 2008; The Highest Judge of Paradise
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YAMAXANADU

CommieGIR posted:

So that idiot that gave his adopted daughter to another guy who then raped her? He apparently also kept his daughters in locked rooms with security cameras and alarms and had them exorcised to remove demons

http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/davidbadash/justin_harris

Where the gently caress are you, CPS?

Isn't exorcism a Catholic thing? And isn't this in the Protestant bible belt? I thought they didn't take to well to Catholicism.

# ? Mar 11, 2015 14:22

computer parts: Nov 18, 2010; PLEASE CLAP

Gravel Gravy posted:

Isn't exorcism a Catholic thing? And isn't this in the Protestant bible belt? I thought they didn't take to well to Catholicism.

Exorcism is actually in the Bible so I imagine it can spring up in any Christian denomination.

# ? Mar 11, 2015 14:23

SgtMongoose: Feb 10, 2007

VitalSigns posted:

Ahahahahaha, whut.

Enjoying your beef brisket, O infidel? Does the taste of 100% all beef appeal to you?
Shore am, what's it to ya?
Haha kuffar! It's not just 100% pure beef, it was certified to be so by an agent of the caliphate! Muhammed owns your soul!
Nooooo! There is no God but Allah...

Considering that these are the same people who believe pork is literally Muslim kryptonite, they probably do think that eating halal food automatically makes them Muslim.

# ? Mar 11, 2015 14:25

Fuck You And Diebold: Sep 15, 2004; by Athanatos

McDowell posted:

The only 'scandal' about Hillary's server is that it suggests she and Bill knew about the scope and legal justifications of NSA surveillance and tried to insulate themselves from it.

What? No it doesn't, if she knew the scope of NSA surveillance she would've known running her own email server wouldn't do jack poo poo against it.

# ? Mar 11, 2015 14:25

CommieGIR: Aug 22, 2006; The blue glow is a feature, not a bug; Pillbug

Gravel Gravy posted:

Isn't exorcism a Catholic thing? And isn't this in the Protestant bible belt? I thought they didn't take to well to Catholicism.

Its pretty much any of the evangelical religions in the US that practice it. Either way, CPS should've removed these kids a long time ago.

# ? Mar 11, 2015 14:25

TotalHell: Feb 22, 2005; _{Roman Reigns fights CM Punk in fantasy warld. Lotsa violins, so littl kids cant red it.}

Gravel Gravy posted:

Isn't exorcism a Catholic thing? And isn't this in the Protestant bible belt? I thought they didn't take to well to Catholicism.

Exorcism is a Catholic thing primarily, but it falls under that superstitious religious category of things that people believe in regardless of their Christian denomination.

# ? Mar 11, 2015 14:26

Eggplant Squire: Aug 14, 2003

AcidRonin posted:

Guys glen beck is currently discussing how grover norquist is a agent of influence for the muslim brotherhood holy poo poo

He is literally sleeping with the enemy :ninja:

# ? Mar 11, 2015 14:45

Cognac McCarthy: Oct 5, 2008; It's a man's game, but boys will play

AcidRonin posted:

Guys glen beck is currently discussing how grover norquist is a agent of influence for the muslim brotherhood holy poo poo

Yes, yes, let the wings fight. :getin:

# ? Mar 11, 2015 15:02

Shbobdb: Dec 16, 2010; by Reene

Are you kidding me? The Catholic Church hasn't condoned exorcism in decades (and even before that, it was rarely used). Charismatic Protestants, on the other hand, use that poo poo all the time.

It's much more of a Protestant thing and has been for decades.

# ? Mar 11, 2015 15:06

Cognac McCarthy: Oct 5, 2008; It's a man's game, but boys will play

Shbobdb posted:

Are you kidding me? The Catholic Church hasn't condoned exorcism in decades (and even before that, it was rarely used).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Association_of_Exorcists

Uh, no? This organization was given Pope Francis' blessing last summer. It's rare, sure, but it's not like the Church has officially abandoned or condemned it.

# ? Mar 11, 2015 15:15

Phone: Jul 30, 2005; 親子丼をほしい。

AcidRonin posted:

Guys glen beck is currently discussing how grover norquist is a agent of influence for the muslim brotherhood holy poo poo

Old news. Norquist is always saying that not all people from the Middle East are awful since his wife is from there.

I'm fairly certain he hasn't pulled the classic blanket statement but with a caveat for "the good ones". It's like one the thing he isn't a shitlord about.

# ? Mar 11, 2015 15:16

Cognac McCarthy: Oct 5, 2008; It's a man's game, but boys will play

Phone posted:

Old news. Norquist is always saying that not all people from the Middle East are awful since his wife is from there.

Not only is she from the Middle East, she's Palestinian and Muslim. A lot of the Right would probably be able to ignore it if he married a Lebanese woman or a Palestinian Christian, but he went all out.

# ? Mar 11, 2015 15:24

Madmarker: Jan 7, 2007

Shbobdb posted:

Are you kidding me? The Catholic Church hasn't condoned exorcism in decades (and even before that, it was rarely used). Charismatic Protestants, on the other hand, use that poo poo all the time.

It's much more of a Protestant thing and has been for decades.

Yeah, you are quite wrong there. The Roman Catholic church still maintains the Rite of Exorcism. However there are rules that must be followed before a Priest is allowed to perform an exorcism. The most notable of which is that the subject who is to have the presence of a Demon/Satan exorcised must undergo psychiatric and medical evaluation to rule out the possibility of mental illness or disease. Further the Priest has to be directly authorized by a Bishop in order to perform the ritual. So there is a lot of ecclesiastic red tape to deal with. So no, exorcism isn't common, but it is something that is still done in the Catholic church.

# ? Mar 11, 2015 15:37

Shbobdb: Dec 16, 2010; by Reene

Cognac McCarthy posted:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Association_of_Exorcists

Uh, no? This organization was given Pope Francis' blessing last summer. It's rare, sure, but it's not like the Church has officially abandoned or condemned it.

6 dudes hanging out in Rome?

On the other hand, you've got over 500 deliverance ministries in the US focusing on exorcism. One of the more common reasons for Protestant exorcism is to "pray the gay away".

Exorcism is incredibly rare in Roman Catholicism (though, I was surprised to learn that it has been on the rise over the last 10 years), whereas it is much more of the norm in Protestantism.

Protestants are crazy man.

# ? Mar 11, 2015 15:38

Cognac McCarthy: Oct 5, 2008; It's a man's game, but boys will play

Shbobdb posted:

6 dudes hanging out in Rome?

On the other hand, you've got over 500 deliverance ministries in the US focusing on exorcism. One of the more common reasons for Protestant exorcism is to "pray the gay away".

Exorcism is incredibly rare in Roman Catholicism (though, I was surprised to learn that it has been on the rise over the last 10 years), whereas it is much more of the norm in Protestantism.

Protestants are crazy man.

I didn't say Protestants didn't do it more. You said the Church doesn't condone the practice, when it clearly does.

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Madmarker: Jan 7, 2007

Shbobdb posted:

Protestants are crazy man.

Well, at least we can agree on the important things. :agesilaus:

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STAC Goat: Mar 12, 2008; Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

As a lapsed but raised Catholic I feel comfortable saying that exorcism is one of those things that only the super, super religious extreme of the Church puts any stock in. I've known a few people who believe in it just like they believe that angels come down and save people from car wrecks and demons come down and sabotage holy stuff like gremlins. One of those people once swore up and down to me that the Virgin Mary came into a room and served them all Eucharist. Of course after pushing a lot (mainly because I was very concerned for her mental health) she admitted that she meant that the Virgin Mary came into them as they served each other. But its that kind of out there religious that I've heard exorcism talk from. But 9 out of 10 Catholics I've ever known would never humor any of that poo poo. At least here in America.

So I have no doubt that any branch of Christian could embrace that craziness if they're far enough along the path. I know I've heard the same kind of craziness from non-Catholics I've known at roughly the same percentages as the Catholics.

Of course I've known a few Catholic priests from third world nations who would sometimes tell stories to you if you got them in the right mood (or plied them with a little Johnny Walker). I've also had more than one priest make the case to me that the use of "exorcisms" is a tool that the Church sometimes uses to get through to people who won't listen to more practical things. So basically the plot of The Last Exorcism. But I'm sure most Catholic priests would deny that on the record and its entirely possible the guys I was talking to were just "radicals."

# ? Mar 11, 2015 15:41

TotalHell: Feb 22, 2005; _{Roman Reigns fights CM Punk in fantasy warld. Lotsa violins, so littl kids cant red it.}

Shbobdb posted:

6 dudes hanging out in Rome?

On the other hand, you've got over 500 deliverance ministries in the US focusing on exorcism. One of the more common reasons for Protestant exorcism is to "pray the gay away".

Exorcism is incredibly rare in Roman Catholicism (though, I was surprised to learn that it has been on the rise over the last 10 years), whereas it is much more of the norm in Protestantism.

Protestants are crazy man.

Yeah, sorry, I should have been more clear. When I said exorcism was a Catholic thing, I meant that it was recognized as legitimate by the Catholic Church and that "diocese exorcist" is still a position that is maintained within the church. It's a recognized part of the Church structure.

I don't know enough about Protestant sects to know if "exorcist" is an official title in any of their churches or not, I just know they make use of it as a thing, whereas it's very much an official part of Catholicism.

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Cognac McCarthy: Oct 5, 2008; It's a man's game, but boys will play

TotalHell posted:

I don't know enough about Protestant sects to know if "exorcist" is an official title in any of their churches or not, I just know they make use of it as a thing, whereas it's very much an official part of Catholicism.

Lay preaching is fundamental to most brands of Protestantism, meaning theoretically your local pastor or minister isn't officially more qualified to do anything than you are, so any rear end in a top hat can claim to be an exorcist or community spiritual leader. Think Paul Dano in There Will Be Blood - he's just a charismatic kid and can get people to follow him, so he builds his own church.

# ? Mar 11, 2015 15:51

BiggerBoat: Sep 26, 2007; Don't you tell me my business again.

Ansiktsburk posted:

I hear you. I just find the way people get all Jekyll and Hyde over politics to be so absurd it's just funny. Disagree with me? WELL I HOPE EVERYTHING GOES STRAIGHT TO HELL SO YOU CAN SEE HOW RIGHT I AM. My dad goes from thoughtful human being to Glenn Beck-loving accelerationist at the drop of a hat, and he's got nothing on my mother.

"I hope he (Obama) fails" - Rush Limbaugh, 2008

# ? Mar 11, 2015 16:37

Alec Bald Snatch: Sep 12, 2012; by exmarx

TotalHell posted:

I don't know enough about Protestant sects to know if "exorcist" is an official title in any of their churches or not, I just know they make use of it as a thing, whereas it's very much an official part of Catholicism.

A few denominations have an exorcist title or rules on how they're supposed to be performed, but in practice it's almost unheard of outside the fringe churches if they're affiliated with a legitimate denomination or the ones with no higher governing structure that basically operate as cults under the guise of Christianity. Or more likely in the more syncretic churches in the developing world which incorporate local traditional practices.

# ? Mar 11, 2015 17:57

big mean giraffe: Dec 13, 2003; Eat Shit and Die; Lipstick Apathy

STAC Goat posted:

As a lapsed but raised Catholic I feel comfortable saying that exorcism is one of those things that only the super, super religious extreme of the Church puts any stock in. I've known a few people who believe in it just like they believe that angels come down and save people from car wrecks and demons come down and sabotage holy stuff like gremlins. One of those people once swore up and down to me that the Virgin Mary came into a room and served them all Eucharist. Of course after pushing a lot (mainly because I was very concerned for her mental health) she admitted that she meant that the Virgin Mary came into them as they served each other. But its that kind of out there religious that I've heard exorcism talk from. But 9 out of 10 Catholics I've ever known would never humor any of that poo poo. At least here in America.

So I have no doubt that any branch of Christian could embrace that craziness if they're far enough along the path. I know I've heard the same kind of craziness from non-Catholics I've known at roughly the same percentages as the Catholics.

Of course I've known a few Catholic priests from third world nations who would sometimes tell stories to you if you got them in the right mood (or plied them with a little Johnny Walker). I've also had more than one priest make the case to me that the use of "exorcisms" is a tool that the Church sometimes uses to get through to people who won't listen to more practical things. So basically the plot of The Last Exorcism. But I'm sure most Catholic priests would deny that on the record and its entirely possible the guys I was talking to were just "radicals."

It's hilarious that religious people consider some ridiculous crazy "magic" poo poo totally plausible and demons exist but as soon as it becomes "real" in real life it's crazy talk. Shows how much most Christians actually believe the crazy they spout.

# ? Mar 11, 2015 18:02

Intel&Sebastian: Oct 20, 2002; colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!

I hope they nail that Justin Harris guy to the wall. Even before this exorcism poo poo came out that press conference where he defended himself by spilling the beans on how hosed up those kids were should've done it. That press conference would've been gross even if they did the "I'd like to return this kid please" process as above board as he could, let alone handing them off to a rapist.

What the gently caress

# ? Mar 11, 2015 18:04

Slo-Tek: Jun 8, 2001; WINDOWS 98 BEAT HIS FRIEND WITH A SHOVEL

CommieGIR posted:

So that idiot that gave his adopted daughter to another guy who then raped her? He apparently also kept his daughters in locked rooms with security cameras and alarms and had them exorcised to remove demons

http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/davidbadash/justin_harris

Where the gently caress are you, CPS?

Did you not read the article? The people in charge of the DCS were greasing the wheels for him, after all the field agents said "no, this is a terrible idea, do not put these children with this weirdo", they got calls from on high explaining that a State Senator (who sits on the committee for DCS) wants this thing, so it is going to happen"

Of course, now that he is getting headlines, his line of attack is "This is all DCS's fault, after all, look at what they allowed me do after I exerted pressure for special treatment as an elected legislator!"

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Mr Ice Cream Glove: Apr 22, 2007

What a whiny bitch

# ? Mar 11, 2015 18:18

big mean giraffe: Dec 13, 2003; Eat Shit and Die; Lipstick Apathy

The same whiny bitch who just yesterday told everyone to sack up.

# ? Mar 11, 2015 18:21

boner confessor: Apr 25, 2013; by R. Guyovich

Leofish posted:

it came from a guy who was saying something about how food companies are "making things Halal and not telling us" so he was probably a nut, but is this a thing that comes up in discussions in America?

among crazy and/or deeply ignorant people, yes

Leofish posted:

Have any of the big hosts been stoking fears of Muslims potentially being portrayed in a positive light in school?

probably - you can say all kinds of poo poo about any sect of islam moderate or radical and most backwoods americans will not have the necessary knowledge to fact check those statements, if they even care

you can never underestimate how profoundly uninformed the average american is about world culture, or how scared they are of same

# ? Mar 11, 2015 18:23

UFOTacoMan: Sep 22, 2005; Thanks easter bunny!
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:

What a whiny bitch

I'm no world wide web internet expert but aren't those ads driven by the site's content? Which just means that he is dumb?

quote:

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# ? Mar 11, 2015 18:23

Intel&Sebastian: Oct 20, 2002; colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!

Assuming a grace period of "within this same article" it looks like Crowder managed to publicly live by his "Anyone who gets offended by anything is a pussy" standard for an entire 24 hours. Impressive stuff.

# ? Mar 11, 2015 18:24

Gin and Juche: Apr 3, 2008; The Highest Judge of Paradise
Shiki Eiki
YAMAXANADU

Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:

What a whiny bitch

Ads are based off of search history, dude.

# ? Mar 11, 2015 18:24

xergm: Sep 8, 2009; The Moon is for Sissies!

Gravel Gravy posted:

Ads are based off of search history, dude.

I wonder how his wife feels about this.

# ? Mar 11, 2015 18:28

Miltank: Dec 27, 2009; by XyloJW

Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:

What a whiny bitch

Oh man.

That's funny.

# ? Mar 11, 2015 18:30

ToxicSlurpee: Nov 5, 2003; -=SEND HELP=-; Pillbug

Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:

What a whiny bitch

With as much as he talks about Muslims the Google code probably decided he was one. Oh I can't wait for some delicious schadenfreude from this one.

# ? Mar 11, 2015 18:31

1stGear: Jan 16, 2010; Here's to the new us.

ToxicSlurpee posted:

With as much as he talks about Muslims the Google code probably decided he was one. Oh I can't wait for some delicious schadenfreude from this one.

Gravel Gravy posted:

Ads are based off of search history, dude.

xergm posted:

I wonder how his wife feels about this.

I prefer the latter explanation and I really hope there's a two and two and his wife is tech-savvy enough to put them together and start asking some uncomfortable questions of Crowder.

# ? Mar 11, 2015 18:38

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# ? May 24, 2024 00:03

CommieGIR: Aug 22, 2006; The blue glow is a feature, not a bug; Pillbug

Slo-Tek posted:

Did you not read the article? The people in charge of the DCS were greasing the wheels for him, after all the field agents said "no, this is a terrible idea, do not put these children with this weirdo", they got calls from on high explaining that a State Senator (who sits on the committee for DCS) wants this thing, so it is going to happen"

Of course, now that he is getting headlines, his line of attack is "This is all DCS's fault, after all, look at what they allowed me do after I exerted pressure for special treatment as an elected legislator!"

I know, wishful thinking :smith:

# ? Mar 11, 2015 18:39

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