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Fiend Computer posted:Oh crap I assumed it was a global effect. Never mind then, I don't actually like him that much. He's still good as a hasty 5/4 though. Generally, unless you're playing 2 cards a turn (Token deck or double bears?), giving one creature haste is basically the same as giving every creature haste.
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Yeah, it is, I dunno what I'm complaining about. Surrak is pretty alright. He will probably see more play than his other version at least. So we can now confirm that Taigam will probably be three mana, seeing how the other Kahns costs are 1, 2, 4 and 5 so far, right?
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Mar 11, 2015 18:49
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Fiend Computer posted:So we can now confirm that Taigam will probably be three mana, seeing how the other Kahns costs are 1, 2, 4 and 5 so far, right? But Narset is already there! Watch that Taigam art be used for a spell that nobody will use. Taigam's Plotting.
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Mar 11, 2015 18:51
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Mercury Crusader posted:Hello, old friend. It's good to see you again. Duress is a perfect Magic card.
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Mar 11, 2015 18:53
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Angry Grimace posted:
Would Trample seriously been too much to ask for a Green Fatty? 
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You would rather have trample than haste? Given the assumption that having both is out of the question, of course.
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Zoness posted:You would rather have trample than haste? I would assume he would have Trample, Formidable - Give a Dude Haste if you control Power 8 or more. I guess that's mythic levels though, so.
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Mar 11, 2015 18:54
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Wezlar posted:I can't even tell who is being sarcastic in this thread Turns out a 5/4 for 2GG with a conditional ability isn't good enough anymore a lot of the time in constructed.
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Mar 11, 2015 18:55
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Even if you assume that Ferocious will be very easy to turn on when you factor in his 5 power (which, as others have pointed out, isn't an unreasonable assumption) you're still looking at his entire text box being "Fires of Yavimaya, but not as good." That's boring. Compare Xenagod for an example of how to do it better.
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Lately all I want to play is limited (I usually do my lgs FNM which is a booster draft, but I do have a decent U/W Heroic deck for various tourneys they hold). Would it be wise to buy some event tickets on my super old MTGO account to just draft with for practice or is there something better I could be doing?
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Look man as a person who likes playing wraths I'm really scared of something like mystic - courser - surrak take 7 lmao Cuz that shits gonna happen before I even have my third land in play and isn't a particularly nutty draw or anything.
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Sirbloody posted:Lately all I want to play is limited (I usually do my lgs FNM which is a booster draft, but I do have a decent U/W Heroic deck for various tourneys they hold). Would it be wise to buy some event tickets on my super old MTGO account to just draft with for practice or is there something better I could be doing? You could start a new account and play the "new to Magic Online" phantom drafts. Zoness posted:Look man as a person who likes playing wraths I'm really scared of something like Ultimate Price the Courser, then Downfall the Surrak on your next turn. 
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Mar 11, 2015 18:57
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TheKingofSprings posted:Turns out a 5/4 for 2GG with a conditional ability isn't good enough anymore a lot of the time in constructed. Agreed. On an unrelated note, King, the time has come to autoban yourself. 
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Zoness posted:Look man as a person who likes playing wraths I'm really scared of something like Agreed. Conditional Haste is much better than Conditional trample Fuzzy Mammal posted:Agreed. rofl did he  himself?
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Mar 11, 2015 18:59
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The best part about Surrak? He triggers formitable automatically with Hero's Blade.
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Mar 11, 2015 18:59
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Angry Grimace posted:
Wasn't someone saying ultimate price doesn't have a place in a format with rhinos tho? I'm getting mixed signals here!
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Bread Set Jettison posted:Agreed. Conditional Haste is much better than Conditional trample Yeah we both did. Functional forums search is so nice. Here is where I toxx myself and King takes it on the next page or so.
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Mar 11, 2015 19:03
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:Yeah we both did. Functional forums search is so nice. Here is where I toxx myself and King takes it on the next page or so. Re-read my post a couple of times.
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Mar 11, 2015 19:05
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He's still a couple blocks away from a ban, and there will be fetches in Return to Zendikar.
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Mar 11, 2015 19:08
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Just being a very efficiently costed haster that gives all your other dudes haste isn't enough. It needs more upside. More!! Incidentally why does the creature power level keep rising??
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Mar 11, 2015 19:09
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In a way, the planeswalker's guide makes me think of Kamigawa, the revered dragons are back and they rule the show, gently caress non dragons.
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Mar 11, 2015 19:09
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I'll never understand the whole Toxx Clause thing. I mean, I'm glad for it, like when Obama got elected the first time and half the libertarians and republicans in D&D committed mass forum seppuku , but I guess I'm just not much of a gambler.
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Chamale posted:He's still a couple blocks away from a ban, and there will be fetches in Return to Zendikar. I'm pretty sure my toxx got fulfilled in Khans even
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Irony Be My Shield posted:Just being a very efficiently costed haster that gives all your other dudes haste isn't enough. It needs more upside. More!! The powercreep is real
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Mar 11, 2015 19:10
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:Agreed. Uh, he's pretty clearly going to win that toxx and you're going to lose.
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TheKingofSprings posted:Re-read my post a couple of times. Haha ok so you didn't take my toxx you made a new one. Fair enough. We both win!
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Mar 11, 2015 19:11
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mr. mephistopheles posted:So mad we're going back to Zendikar and will never get a return to Lorwyn. It's unreasonable but a return to Lorwyn is all I want.
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Mar 11, 2015 19:11
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mr. mephistopheles posted:Uh, he's pretty clearly going to win that toxx and you're going to lose. I won it like 8 months ago
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Mar 11, 2015 19:12
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:Haha ok so you didn't take my toxx you made a new one. Fair enough. We both win! You said enemy fetches would never end up back in standard and I'll toxx you right now they're in one of the Zendikar sets.
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Mar 11, 2015 19:15
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TheKingofSprings posted:Re-read my post a couple of times. You each appear to ahve agreed to different things. He said Zendikar fetches and you said fetches in general. I think, unfortunately, the Toxx is probably null and void entirely.
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Mar 11, 2015 19:17
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I mean to be fair new Surrak probably won't see play since a well-costed aggressive card doesn't seem like a natural fit in any of the snowballing nightmares that are Gx standard decks.
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Kurtofan posted:In a way, the planeswalker's guide makes me think of Kamigawa, the revered dragons are back and they rule the show, gently caress non dragons. It doesn't seem too awful if you're one of Ojutai's. Be chill, learn stuff, don't talk common in earshot of a dragon.
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mr. mephistopheles posted:You said enemy fetches would never end up back in standard and I'll toxx you right now they're in one of the Zendikar sets. Follow your own advice and go back and reread what I linked. I said not in that block, then further on clarified exactly which sets I was referring to by code name. Also unlike King I didn't go back and edit my post later to cover up losing.
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:Follow your own advice and go back and reread what I linked. I said not in that block, then further on clarified exactly which sets I was referring to by code name. Also unlike King I didn't go back and edit my post later to cover up losing. I never said reread anything and you know exactly what you meant but if you want to weasel out of it go head I guess it's not really a big deal.
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:Follow your own advice and go back and reread what I linked. I said not in that block, then further on clarified exactly which sets I was referring to by code name. Also unlike King I didn't go back and edit my post later to cover up losing. I just looked at it and the last time he edited it wast he day he made the post. 
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Kyrosiris posted:It doesn't seem too awful if you're one of Ojutai's. Be chill, learn stuff, don't talk common in earshot of a dragon. It's a massive step down from the Jeskai though. It's Jeskai plus segregation. Dragons are dicks
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Mar 11, 2015 19:22
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Surrak should have had flying and tapped for any color of mana
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:Yeah we both did. Functional forums search is so nice. Here is where I toxx myself and King takes it on the next page or so. So your Toxx has two clauses. One is fetches won't be in m15 or the next block. Then you say Zendikar fetches won't appear in standard. If you view them seperately, you should Toxx for the first part, they were in the set after m15, and the 2nd part you are almost certainly going to be wrong come Battle for Zendikar. King said the next 3-4 blocks, so the odds he gets toxxed would be khans block, origins, Battle for Zendikar, and one after that, two if you don't count Origins as a block. Fuzzy Mammal posted:Follow your own advice and go back and reread what I linked. I said not in that block, then further on clarified exactly which sets I was referring to by code name. Also unlike King I didn't go back and edit my post later to cover up losing. He last edited his post 4 minutes after he posted it back in March of 2014? He obviously didn't go back and edit it after fetches were announced in Khans or Battle for Zendikar was announced etc. Your getting pretty salty guy. jassi007 fucked around with this message at 19:27 on Mar 11, 2015 |
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:Follow your own advice and go back and reread what I linked. I said not in that block, then further on clarified exactly which sets I was referring to by code name. Also unlike King I didn't go back and edit my post later to cover up losing. I editted my post 4 minutes after I made it to join in on your stupid Toxx game in the first place Go check the timestamp and do the math. And at this point I can say I really, really wish Wizards just bit the bullet and brought in Dragon Tribal for this one set (seeding it in the previous one with Ugin) because like half these conditional cards would actually be really playable then. I hope we see an upswing in power level in the next set. Was Return to Zendikar in development when Theros released? I feel like whichever block is responding to Theros/DGM is the most likely to bring back some stronger cards.
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