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Kaiser Mazoku
Mar 24, 2011

Didn't you see it!? Couldn't you see my "spirit"!?
Part 4 is the best and I will fight you over it.

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TheKingofSprings
Oct 9, 2012

Kaiser Mazoku posted:

Part 4 is the best and I will fight you over it.

It's no use talking to a guy who doesn't respect the DUWANG

Butt Ghost
Nov 23, 2013

DUWANG is what you kids would call "Shakespearean"

Kaiser Mazoku
Mar 24, 2011

Didn't you see it!? Couldn't you see my "spirit"!?
Jojo itself is the Shakespeare of anime.

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

It meets the dirty joke quota.

Josuke Higashikata
Mar 7, 2013


Tonfa posted:

I think you mean



A beautiful line to go with a beautiful pose :allears:

I'm sorry but COMPLETELY! is so much better it's unreal.

Darko
Dec 23, 2004

4 is the best BECAUSE it's written so badly, if that makes any sense. It only makes it more JoJo.

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon
I don't see how it's badly written.

Expect My Mom
Nov 18, 2013

by Smythe
If you don't think Josuke miming being knocked backwards and saying "...I think my Stand just got knocked into orbit from the shock" after Koichi tells him he wants to date Yukako isn't a masterpiece of literary creation, well I don't know what to tell you.

Big Anime Fan Here
Sep 8, 2010

by XyloJW
The plot of part 4 is that they really want some money and stupid crap keeps getting in the way

ZenMasterBullshit
Nov 2, 2011

Restaurant de Nouvelles "À Table" Proudly Presents:
A Climactic Encounter Ending on 1 Negate and a Dream

Darko posted:

4 is the best BECAUSE it's written so badly, if that makes any sense. It only makes it more JoJo.

You're thinking of Part 5 and 6.

tap my mountain
Jan 1, 2009

I'm the quick and the deadly
All of JoJo is bad, that's why its SO good

Josuke Higashikata
Mar 7, 2013


The protagonist punches a plate of spaghetti because he suspects that it is infested with little ghosts. He is correct.

Part 4 is literally the best thing ever written.

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

Aurain posted:

The protagonist punches a plate of spaghetti because he suspects that it is infested with little ghosts. He is correct.

Part 4 is literally the best thing ever written.

The pose he makes before doing this has become one of his most iconic poses in supplementary material.

Josuke Higashikata
Mar 7, 2013






:allears:

ChaosArgate
Oct 10, 2012

Why does everyone think I'm going to get in trouble?

Waffleman_ posted:

The pose he makes before doing this has become one of his most iconic poses in supplementary material.

Really? I see that one from one of the covers where he's framing his hair with his hands more often.

Josuke Higashikata
Mar 7, 2013


His highlight during the opening moments of JoJo Anime OP1 is the first picture in my post above animated.

That, his signature pose and spaghetti punching time are definitely his top 3.

Arsonist Daria
Feb 27, 2011

Requiescat in pace.
4 isn't "badly written" because it doesn't have long, concrete arcs. In fact, this is one of the things that best separates it from the other parts and popular shonen in general. I doubt it was ever intended to be a strictly serialized thing, so it seems like odd criteria to judge it by.

Josuke Higashikata
Mar 7, 2013


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hrwwzb1sCs

Another Part 6 UJ20 commercial.

Effectronica
May 31, 2011
Fallen Rib
Part 4 is poorly written in the same way that a novel that consisted solely of unrelated Alice Munro short stories would be poorly written. Each individual part is good, but they don't really add up to a cohesive whole.

hoobajoo
Jun 2, 2004

Effectronica posted:

Part 4 is poorly written in the same way that a novel that consisted solely of unrelated Alice Munro short stories would be poorly written. Each individual part is good, but they don't really add up to a cohesive whole.

So every collection of short stories is poorly written? I don't think most people could agree with that.

Effectronica
May 31, 2011
Fallen Rib

hoobajoo posted:

So every collection of short stories is poorly written? I don't think most people could agree with that.

That's an anthology, not a novel, poster hoobajoo.

Big Anime Fan Here
Sep 8, 2010

by XyloJW
It's a manga. Serialized in "Shonen Jump"

Babysitter Super Sleuth
Apr 26, 2012

my posts are as bad the Current Releases review of Gone Girl

Part 4 is good, not every story has to have a single uniting arch tied into every event.

Big Anime Fan Here
Sep 8, 2010

by XyloJW
Actually part 4 is unified by the theme of "family". It's pretty well structured.

Josuke Higashikata
Mar 7, 2013


Insulting Part 4 should be a bannable offense. All opposed, say "I have lovely taste".

The Unholy Ghost
Feb 19, 2011
Part 4 is the contents of a candy filled garbage bag dumped all over the ground in a mostly random manner and you all know it.

ZenMasterBullshit
Nov 2, 2011

Restaurant de Nouvelles "À Table" Proudly Presents:
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Big Anime Fan Here posted:

Actually part 4 is unified by the theme of "family". It's pretty well structured.

Family and Making your Home/Morioh Better. Its why its structured like a guidebook to the town after every villain is defeated.

Big Anime Fan Here
Sep 8, 2010

by XyloJW
If you paid me some money, I could write you a really good paper on the literary merit of part 4 of Jojo's. I won't do it for free because I'm not a dumbass, but if you gave me some money I would very easily.

ZenMasterBullshit
Nov 2, 2011

Restaurant de Nouvelles "À Table" Proudly Presents:
A Climactic Encounter Ending on 1 Negate and a Dream

ZenMasterBullshit posted:

Family and Making your Home/Morioh Better. Its why its structured like a guidebook to the town after every villain is defeated.

Also there's that whole over arcing narrative about the bow and arrow and Joseph's prediction about the dark secrets hiding in morioh.

Effectronica
May 31, 2011
Fallen Rib

Big Anime Fan Here posted:

If you paid me some money, I could write you a really good paper on the literary merit of part 4 of Jojo's. I won't do it for free because I'm not a dumbass, but if you gave me some money I would very easily.

I'll give you all my steam items, I think that's a fair value.

Josuke Higashikata
Mar 7, 2013


Big Anime Fan Here posted:

If you paid me some money, I could write you a really good paper on the literary merit of part 4 of Jojo's. I won't do it for free because I'm not a dumbass, but if you gave me some money I would very easily.

I'll make a nice post about you and your love of big animes if you do.

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon
I always thought Part 4 was better precisely because it had several arcs and character arcs etc... It's more interesting that Part III's straighforward "let's beat up Dio" plot.

Butt Ghost
Nov 23, 2013

I like the idea that DIO is reading moe poo poo.

Soylentbits
Apr 2, 2007

im worried that theyre setting her up to be jotaros future wife or something.

Effectronica posted:

Part 4 is poorly written in the same way that a novel that consisted solely of unrelated Alice Munro short stories would be poorly written. Each individual part is good, but they don't really add up to a cohesive whole.

That's how serialized fiction works. It's literally how Dickens wrote fiction.

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!
Part 4 is literally anime Ed, Edd, n' Eddy, which automatically makes it good.

Effectronica
May 31, 2011
Fallen Rib

Soylentbits posted:

That's how serialized fiction works. It's literally how Dickens wrote fiction.

That's why every other part featured lengthy sections where the plot stands still, right?

Kaiser Mazoku
Mar 24, 2011

Didn't you see it!? Couldn't you see my "spirit"!?
Reading part 4 for the plot is like watching porn for the plot.

Soylentbits
Apr 2, 2007

im worried that theyre setting her up to be jotaros future wife or something.

Effectronica posted:

That's why every other part featured lengthy sections where the plot stands still, right?

Again yes like pretty much all types of serialized fiction.

Edit: I actually think I misunderstood your post. But I don't see why the quality of its writing would be at all affected by the pacing of previous or future arcs.

Soylentbits fucked around with this message at 22:25 on Mar 11, 2015

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Zeruel
Mar 27, 2010

Alert: bad post spotted.

Kaiser Mazoku posted:

Reading part 4 for the plot is like watching porn for the plot.

I need to find out the motives of the lemon whores, man.

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