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penismightier posted:Rambo 1, fight the people who sent you to Vietnam Rambo 5: 
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Both. We know now that the last thing the USSR wanted was, god forbid, a land invasion of the US. They'd rather just nuke us and be done with it. It was pro-Afghanistan propaganda to encourage more Americans to support the good and noble warlords repelling the attempted soviet invasion. John Milleus was trying to teach us what the mujahideen were going through so that we'd give them more rockets, speaking of Rambo III. For god's sake, they're just innocent kids who want their country back!
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Yeah, and it articulates the logic of protracted guerrilla war very well.
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Egbert Souse posted:The Blue Light is fantastic. She was a fantastic film maker, but we were talking about ending up on the wrong side of history, and I think a literal Nazi definitely counts as ending up on the wrong side of history.
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She bugged out and went to Africa to make coffee table books.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Rambo 2 is demonstrably on the wrong side of history. Man, it's History that's on the wrong side of Rambo!
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The Peccadillo posted:Rambo 5 should have Rambo fly a plane into the world trade centre. That reminds me that the pilot of The Lone Gunmen in March 2001 was about a secret government conspiracy to fly a plane into the World Trade Center in order to grow the military industrial complex
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Skwirl posted:She was a fantastic film maker, but we were talking about ending up on the wrong side of history, and I think a literal Nazi definitely counts as ending up on the wrong side of history. I think she was a typically clueless filmmaker that was too politically naive. Frank Capra and Hal Roach initially supported Mussolini. It's not excusing her entirely, but it's telling that she didn't make any further films for the nazis after Olympia.
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Egbert Souse posted:I think she was a typically clueless filmmaker that was too politically naive. Frank Capra and Hal Roach initially supported Mussolini. It's not excusing her entirely, but it's telling that she didn't make any further films for the nazis after Olympia. No she just used concentration camp prisoners as free extras while making a film based on Hitler's favorite opera.
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Wow, she lived all the way to 2003. What a weird life she must have had.
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penismightier posted:Rambo 5 should have him back in Washington state and basically just be a version of Eastbound and Down season 1. He becomes the sheriff of that town and the movie ends with a Gulf War vet walking into town.
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Egbert Souse posted:I think she was a typically clueless filmmaker that was too politically naive. Frank Capra and Hal Roach initially supported Mussolini. It's not excusing her entirely, but it's telling that she didn't make any further films for the nazis after Olympia. From wWikipedia According to the Daily Express of 24 April 1934, Leni Riefenstahl had read Mein Kampf during the making of her film The Blue Light. This newspaper article quotes her as having commented, "The book made a tremendous impression on me. I became a confirmed National Socialist after reading the first page. I felt a man who could write such a book would undoubtedly lead Germany. I felt very happy that such a man had come". She wrote to Hitler requesting a meeting.
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counterpoint: she was cute
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Schweinhund posted:counterpoint: she was cute And Hitler was what, chopped liver?
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Mister Kingdom posted:He becomes the sheriff of that town and the movie ends with a Gulf War vet walking into town. Oh man. There's so much potential. It would be even better if he took the Gulf War vet under his wing because he's too old for this poo poo.
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Mister Kingdom posted:He becomes the sheriff of that town and the movie ends with a Gulf War vet walking into town. That is played by David Caruso
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Ever notice how many films end on a beach (many times with the protagonists celebrating)? Just off the top of my head: *spoilers* Body Heat: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aA5K7nq4Mi0 The Goonies: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKQkF7RgQWI Gravity: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qSBUTcTX5Q Office Space: Scene missing The Shawshank Redemption: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRBl0GPBm4o Trading Places: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtKydtoLucc It usually symbolizes victory of some sort. Also, can anyone identify others (the earlier the better) in film or books possibly? Just wondering where this started.
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Zogo posted:
The 400 Blows ends on a beach and it's one of the most influential films ever made.
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How could you forget Point Break? 
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Halloween Jack posted:How could you forget Point Break? Point Break ends in a giant wave 
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Landscape theory in painting is probably one way to explore that motif. Something about clear horizon lines and the end of the land resonating as a symbol of endings and transitions.
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Zogo posted:Ever notice how many films end on a beach (many times with the protagonists celebrating)? Just off the top of my head: I remember Humoresque, Toll of the Sea, and Interiors all ending on beaches, though those aren't victorious moments. I think beaches represent a sense of renewal moreso than victory, a sense of perseverance against (or spitting in the face of) God and nature. Also ends on the beach: Return of the Killer Tomatoes.
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The last shot of The Thin Red Line is the single sprout standing alone on a beach.
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I can't think of which one, but either Dawn of the Dead or Day of the Dead. I think it's Day of the Dead.
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Hockles posted:I can't think of which one, but either Dawn of the Dead or Day of the Dead. I think it's Day of the Dead. It's Day.
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Sheldrake posted:I remember Humoresque, Toll of the Sea, and Interiors all ending on beaches, though those aren't victorious moments. I think beaches represent a sense of renewal moreso than victory, a sense of perseverance against (or spitting in the face of) God and nature. American History X ended on a beach and it wasn't a happy ending, per se.
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Barton Fink has a great beach ending.
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therattle posted:From wWikipedia Welp
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Manhunter ends on a beach but maybe because William Petersen is such a fox in his 80s short shorts
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Zogo posted:Ever notice how many films end on a beach (many times with the protagonists celebrating)? Just off the top of my head: There's Planet of the Apes. There may be something to the victory thing in general, but I'm not going to propose that it applies to this one.
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Calvary had a rull downbeat ending on a beach.
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Snak posted:Point Break ends in a giant wave Amusingly, The Beach ends with a guy sitting in an Internet cafe looking at a picture of himself on a beach.
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Fletch Trading Places Ruthless People
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Edge of Heaven, Birth, Everyday, Eternal Sunshine, Dark City, and Submarine use it too. It's extremely common and you could probably even make a subset list of films that feature that Romanticist shot from behind the protagonist who's looking outward at the water.
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Every movie ends on a beach if you watch all your movies on a beach!
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Every Nicholas Sparks movie has a poster with pretty white people about to kiss on a beach, but do any of them end that way? I'm not watching any of them to find out.
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The 400 Blows has an ambiguous ending on a beach.
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The Last Wave
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Matrix Revolutions, kinda.
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