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drowned in pussy juice: Oct 13, 2009; by FactsAreUseless

MC Eating Disorder posted:

Almond milk in tea/coffee is loving dogshit and anyone who actually likes it is a bad and lovely person and should drink a tall glass of my piss

I really like the "drink a glass of my piss" thing and after watching Redcordial actually genuinely and sincerely wish death on another human being out of frustration (no judgement bro) I'm trying to make it a thing instead of telling people to kill themselves or whatever because I can usually tolerate the "kill urself" meme when its funny and jokey but occasionally it goes too far and someone really makes it quite clear they want someone to kill themself and it makes me not post in this thread for long periods of time because suicide is a very loving serious thing and I'm not ok with using it as a rhetorical point and its also way funnier to tell someone to drink my piss anyway.

# ? Mar 12, 2015 00:40

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# ? May 24, 2024 19:03

CATTASTIC: Mar 31, 2010; ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Sounds like somebodies' got their nut milk bag in a twist

# ? Mar 12, 2015 00:41

CrazyTolradi: Oct 2, 2011; It feels so good to be so bad.....at posting.

MC Eating Disorder posted:

Almond milk in tea/coffee is loving dogshit and anyone who actually likes it is a bad and lovely person and should drink a tall glass of my piss

I concur.

# ? Mar 12, 2015 00:44

Graic Gabtar: Dec 19, 2014; squat my posts

Well that closes that one out.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-03-12/australian-believed-involved-in-islamic-state-suicide-bombing/6305304

# ? Mar 12, 2015 00:45

birdstrike: Oct 30, 2008; i;m gay

Graic Gabtar posted:

Well that closes that one out.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-03-12/australian-believed-involved-in-islamic-state-suicide-bombing/6305304

I can only assume you're still pissed because whatever point you're trying to make isn't there, unless you're trying to make a "he sure killed he are self" joke.
:iiam:

# ? Mar 12, 2015 00:48

Cartoon: Jun 20, 2008; poop

Kim Jong ill posted:

I think it's actually you that hasn't ever heard of geography. Here's a map that I put together in about 10 minutes.

I think the legend is pretty self explanatory. So unless you think it's reasonable to expect most of the people in the Middle East or Asia fleeing persecution to do through a war zone, Iran (lol), Egypt (which is already flooded with refugees from Africa), or into a sea already full of dead people doing the same, the only option is to head south-east. Oh, would you look at that! The first country an asylum seeker will encounter that will actually guarantee their rights as a human being is Australia, funny how that works isn't it?

Edit - Oh and another nice side of the deterrent factor, anyone who's stuck in the middle and was considering going south east but now goes north west gets to join all the other asylum seekers drowning in the Mediterranean. Good job saving people's lives at sea (only the one within sight and mind of Australia!).

The graphic would be improved by drawing in closed borders as black lines. For instance it is currently not possible to travel from North Iran into Azerbaijan and once there into Chechnia. Travel from Georgia to Russia is essentially impossible and leads you right past the Crimea and the Ukraine in any case. Armenia and Azerbaijan are technically still at war as well.

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Remember all of the sincere faceplanting into the concrete being done by the clown car pilots over the budget with bizarre and ridiculous moves like super draw down and holding R&D funding to ransom? Well as I mentioned yesterday the RBA are now faced with a potent dilemma. The unemployment figures are remaining stubbornly bad. Business confidence just hit a six year low. That would seem to make a rate cut a no brainer except the last few have been having a diminishing effect and it all just adds to the over heating of some the property market. Once they have crashed the economy badly enough it will become a fait accompli that a GST is required to fix the revenue short fall. Sure as the sun comes up tomorrow. You'd credit it as Machiavellian planning except it has always been the fall back position. What really worries me is that unless Labor seriously take up the abolition of negative gearing, the capital gains tax concession, diesel rebate, and/or superannuation offsetting there is no other measure that can do that much revenue lifting. And a GST is a loving horrible inefficient regressive tax.

While you consider whether or not the housing bubble is a supply side issue:

http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/breakfast/panel-housing-affordability/6305702

Muppet Government

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Minister to being patronising and disingenuous - NTATA*

http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/breakfast/indigenous-funding-cuts/6305644

quote:

Indigenous funding cuts hitting frontline services

Thursday 12 March 2015 8:05AM

The Abbott Government's new funding model for Indigenous programs will see Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander community groups and not-for-profit organisations competing for a diminished pot of money.

These changes will save the Government half a billion dollars over four years, but many organisations now face funding shortfalls and cuts to frontline services and jobs.

Listen to the audio if you dare. The tag lines say it all. Cut funding - Shatter communities - Blame someone else.

Racist Muppet Government.

Arsetralian posted:

12 Mar 2015 The Australian DAVID UREN ECONOMICS EDITOR

Services exports overtake ore

EXPORTS of services such as tourism and education have overtaken shipments of iron ore as Australia�s biggest income earner for the first time in several years, with the Reserve Bank highlighting the potential of services industries to lead Australia�s growth as it emerges from the resources boom. A lower Australian dollar, which yesterday dropped to a sixyear low of US75.9c after falls in the iron ore price over the past week, will also help the transition from resources-led growth, said Reserve Bank assistant governor Christopher Kent. Iron ore prices, which at last year�s budget were expected to hold above $US90 a tonne, have now fallen below $US60 a tonne and analysts are talking of a further drop to $US50 before the market stabilises. Prices for coal and other export commodities have also weakened.

Services exports were traditionally more than double the value of exports of iron ore until the resources boom took off in response to the explosive growth in China�s steel industry from 2004. Iron ore sales overtook services exports only after the huge price increases that followed the financial crisis, as China stimulated its economy with easy credit that sparked a construction boom. New Chinese industrial production figures released yesterday show a downturn in Chinese construction that began last year is gathering pace. The Reserve Bank does not expect growth in Australia to soften further from its current, below-trend rate of about 2.5 per cent, but Dr Kent, who heads the economics division, told an RSL conference in Tasmania �there is little to suggest that it will increase in the near term�.

The Reserve�s rate cut last month to a record low 2.25 per cent reflected its belief that a return to more normal levels of growth has been delayed. However, the bank believes that both business and household services will be central to the growth revival when it does come, building on long-established trends. The share of household budgets devoted to services has risen from 53 per cent to 65 per cent over the past three decades. Spending on education has risen from 2 per cent of household spending to 4.6 per cent since the mid-1980s, while the share of health is up from 4.6 to 5.3 per cent. Recreation now absorbs 5.2 per cent of household spending, up from 3.8 per cent.

As the manufacture of goods has shifted to emerging countries, they have become cheaper and more available. Employment in industries providing household services has risen from a quarter to a third of all jobs in the past three decades. �This includes employment in accommodation and food, arts and recreation, education and training and healthcare and social assistance. These are all things we want and need more of as our appetites for goods become more easily satisfied,� Dr Kent said. Similar trends are at work in business services as companies have outsourced their �non-core� functions to other more specialised industries. Accountants that used to work for a manufacturing firm may now be in the business services industry helping out a wide range of different companies. Over the past 20 years, business, professional, scientific and technical services have been the second biggest source of employment growth after healthcare.

Dr Kent said Australia�s total exports of services led by the tourism and education industries had reached $60bn last year and, at current prices, had overtaken iron ore. The growth in services exports was due mainly to demand from rapidly growing economies in Asia. �These service industries should benefit from further strong growth in demand from that source, with many more households gaining a foothold in the middle class,� he said. �While Australia has many strengths in these services industries, our comparative advantage here is perhaps not as obvious as it is in mining and agriculture, which benefit from our substantial endowments of natural resources. This means we will need to continue to work hard to maintain competitiveness in these global markets.� The Reserve Bank also believes the fall in the Australian dollar will support growth. Dr Kent said the bank still believed the value of the currency was too high, but noted it was now 20 per cent lower against currencies of our trading partners than it was in mid-2013.

�While the depreciation seen to date will be helpful, our assessment is that our exchange rate remains relatively high, given the state of our overall economy,� Dr Kent said. The high level of the dollar had hurt the manufacturing sector. Manufacturing has increased output over the past few decades, but its growth has been below other industries, in common with most developed nations. �Those manufacturers with more exposure to the construction industry, including mining, and focused on more complex, highly skilled techniques, have tended to fare better than those exposed more to the pressures of international competition from emerging markets.� Dr Kent said that although jobs in resources would fall as projects were completed, there would still be strong growth in resource production and exports over the next few years, particularly in Western Australia and Queensland.

It really says something when the Arsetralian concedes that we aren't a quarry and therefore mining development at all costs isn't an actual necessity. It is additionally telling that our government is planning on cutting funds to R&D and universities further. It's almost like they have no clue.

Dumber than Muppet Government.

* Noted Torture Apologist Tony gently caress You Abbott.

# ? Mar 12, 2015 00:53

Graic Gabtar: Dec 19, 2014; squat my posts

Birdstrike posted:

I can only assume you're still pissed because whatever point you're trying to make isn't there, unless you're trying to make a "he sure killed he are self" joke.

There's no joke. It's a sad situation that appears to have ended probably sooner than people would have imagined.

People being tetchy appears to be the status quo it seems.

# ? Mar 12, 2015 00:53

kingcom: Jun 23, 2012

Graic Gabtar posted:

Well that closes that one out.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-03-12/australian-believed-involved-in-islamic-state-suicide-bombing/6305304

Closes what out?

# ? Mar 12, 2015 00:53

CrazyTolradi: Oct 2, 2011; It feels so good to be so bad.....at posting.

kingcom posted:

Closes what out?

Yeah, I'm not sure what kind of point Graic is trying to make here aside from a horrible attempt at being witty and edgy.

# ? Mar 12, 2015 00:59

Anidav: Feb 25, 2010; ahhh fuck its the rats again

I think he means the conclusion of the boys run because it's implied he was the suicide bomber?

# ? Mar 12, 2015 01:02

birdstrike: Oct 30, 2008; i;m gay

Graic Gabtar posted:

People being tetchy appears to be the status quo it seems.

Not tetchy, lovely post got admittedly lovely response.

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Of the two reasons I wasn't outraged about the QLD pollie pay rise several pages back, the second was that I was saving it up for this:

Abbot Point expansion to go ahead...

Some Murdoch Rag posted:

THE $1 billion-plus Abbot Point port expansion could start this year after the State Government came up with a third plan to resolve environmental issues over dredging.

The plan is to just dump next door of the wetlands, instead of right on top of the wetlands. Because that worked out so well for Homebu-

Wikipedia posted:

The bay was contaminated with dioxin and other chemicals by Union Carbide group which led to commercial fishing bans in most of Sydney Harbour and health advisories about limiting the quantity of fish eaten from the Parramattta River. Fishing is prohibited in Homebush Bay for health reasons. Other contamination includes phthalates, lead, polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons, DDT and heavy metals.

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While on the topic of change from within, my branch didn't get quorum last night 2 weeks out from a state election because everyone was either old-person ill, or injured, and also the local candidate didn't bother to attend.

Soon there may not be anything left to change.

# ? Mar 12, 2015 01:20

open24hours: Jan 7, 2001

More uni stuff.

quote:

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/labor-pledges-to-tackle-uni-dropout-rate-if-elected-20150311-141cf5.html

"I'm concerned about the evidence of skill shortages in some labour markets and oversupply of graduates in others," Senator Carr will say.

"There is an oversupply of law graduates, for example, and a chronic undersupply of graduates in STEM disciplines.

Can't imagine why people wouldn't want to enroll in those courses. There are so many secure jobs for graduates.

# ? Mar 12, 2015 01:21

Endman: May 18, 2010; That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die

Wizard Master posted:

Hhhuhhhhh duhhhr fhfhuh puhhh? Fhuhhh puhhh? Duhhh

Most intelligent posting I've seen ITT tbh

# ? Mar 12, 2015 01:25

hooman: Oct 11, 2007; This guy seems legit.; Fun Shoe

Endman posted:

Most intelligent posting I've seen ITT tbh

That's only because you have everyone bar yourself and wizard master on ignore.

# ? Mar 12, 2015 01:49

Cartoon: Jun 20, 2008; poop

hooman posted:

That's only because you have everyone bar yourself and wizard master on ignore.

He has Endman on ignore too.

# ? Mar 12, 2015 01:59

MysticalMachineGun: Apr 5, 2005

I really shouldn't watch the news while I'm having brekky but apparently the Federal election was a referendum on the East-West Link as well as the state election in Victoria, according to NTATA.

Now I know Gough will say that Melbourne is the centre of the universe but I'm going to go out on a limb and say that the other 3/4 - 4/5 of Australia's voting populace couldn't give a poo poo about that horrible road and the poison chalice the state Libs left in their wake.

# ? Mar 12, 2015 02:01

Lizard Combatant: Sep 29, 2010; I have some notes.

Cartoon posted:

He has Endman on ignore too.

That's just the forum default, right?

# ? Mar 12, 2015 02:01

CATTASTIC: Mar 31, 2010; ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

End...who?

# ? Mar 12, 2015 02:06

Senor Tron: May 26, 2006

MysticalMachineGun posted:

I really shouldn't watch the news while I'm having brekky but apparently the Federal election was a referendum on the East-West Link as well as the state election in Victoria, according to NTATA.

Now I know Gough will say that Melbourne is the centre of the universe but I'm going to go out on a limb and say that the other 3/4 - 4/5 of Australia's voting populace couldn't give a poo poo about that horrible road and the poison chalice the state Libs left in their wake.

Ah yes, Melbourne. That well known Federal Liberal seat.

# ? Mar 12, 2015 02:15

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ewe2 posted:

I'll just link this Lateline transcript about data retention with Bruce Schneier, but it's worth a read.

What is also concerning is that HTTP/2 is almost complete: Firefox and Chrome will only support it with HTTPS but this creates the problem that data caches, which cut down on internet traffic and speeds up access can't work because the data is encrypted. This is a big problem for low-bandwidth connections (like 3/4 of the world) and smartphones, and currently the only suggestion is a really bad one: put an root certificate in the phone or computer that allows a cache to decrypt the connection and be able to send it on after re-encryption. That basically ruins the whole point of HTTPS, but noone's come up with an alternative yet that I've heard.

Not really. Local caching works fine under HTTP2.0 and CDNs come off better due to request multiplexing. Server-side caching works fine too, because the data is generated prior to transport-level encryption.

e; also, very little data is transparently cacheable these days anyway

Murodese fucked around with this message at 02:31 on Mar 12, 2015

# ? Mar 12, 2015 02:20

Endman: May 18, 2010; That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die

Lizard Combatant posted:

That's just the forum default, right?

QUACKTASTIC posted:

End...who?

# ? Mar 12, 2015 02:33

Avshalom: Feb 14, 2012; by Lowtax

Wizard Master is consistently the best poster in most threads, but especially this thread

# ? Mar 12, 2015 02:38

birdstrike: Oct 30, 2008; i;m gay

Endman posted:

Most intelligent posting I've seen ITT tbh

Avshalom posted:

Wizard Master is consistently the best poster in most threads, but especially this thread

echo_chamber.txt

# ? Mar 12, 2015 02:46

hooman: Oct 11, 2007; This guy seems legit.; Fun Shoe

Birdstrike posted:

wizard_master.txt

# ? Mar 12, 2015 02:51

Vladimir Poutine: Aug 13, 2012

http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2015/mar/12/dodgy-vocational-training-practices-to-be-targeted-by-government-crackdown?CMP=soc_567

quote:

'Dodgy' vocational training practices to be targeted by government crackdown

The Abbott government has vowed to crack down on �dodgy practices� in the vocational education and training (VET) sector, including a ban on providers offering incentives of cash or laptops to lure students to sign up to courses they do not need.

The government also wants to make it easier to cancel student debts that have been generated by training providers or brokers who breach the new guidelines, with the provider then being required to reimburse taxpayers for the cost.

The assistant minister for education and training, Simon Birmingham, said the �rolling campaign of legislative and other changes� targeting rogue training providers would protect students from an estimated $16bn in �unnecessary� VET Fee-Help loans that they otherwise would have taken out over the next 10 years.

VET Fee-Help is an income-contingent loan scheme allowing students to defer their costs of obtaining VET qualifications. It is similar to the Hecs-Help loan scheme for university students.

�After closely reviewing some of the dodgy practices being deployed, it is clear that further reforms are needed to break the business model of those unscrupulous training providers who prey on vulnerable students,� Birmingham said.

�The unacceptable activities of some training providers are leaving vulnerable Australians with a lifetime of unwanted debt, taxpayers with liabilities that may never be repaid, and are damaging the reputation of the many good public, private and not-for-profit training providers.�

Many of the changes can be achieved by ministerial regulation, with the ban on inducements like cash, meals, prizes or laptops set to begin on 1 April. But some elements of the plan will require legislation to pass the parliament.

Other proposed measures include a ban on �miraculously short diploma or advanced diploma courses, instead requiring a minimum number of units to study�.

The government would also prevent providers from levying all fees in a single up-front transaction so that students could have more opportunities to consider their options before incurring VET Fee-Help debts; improve the information available to students about the total debt they would accumulate; and strengthen the duty of care requirements for training providers offering VET Fee-Help loans.

Labor accused the Coalition of being slow to act on mounting concerns over unscrupulous VET operators. The opposition�s spokeswoman for vocational education, Sharon Bird, said Labor had been calling for action following �an explosion in media articles and stories about vulnerable people being exploited by these shonky providers over the past 12 months�.

�I am very pleased that Minister Birmingham has finally come on board and realised that this is a serious issue with vulnerable people being ripped off and shonky operators making huge profits at the taxpayers� expense,� she said.

�Labor will be happy to support good measures that provide protection for vulnerable people and we look forward to receiving the detail of these new measures.�

But the Greens senator Lee Rhiannon said the plan amounted to �sticking a bandaid on the gaping wound�.

Rhiannon accused the federal government of making �a politically driven announcement timed for the New South Wales state election as the Baird government is losing support for its plan to expand private, for-profit companies in the vocational education and training sector�.

�It is not just the free iPad and laptops that are the problem,� she said. �Allowing companies to make a profit out of public money earmarked for education is a recipe for bad practices.�

The federal government�s stalled legislation to deregulate university fees would also extend government subsidies to bachelor and sub-bachelor courses at non-university higher education providers, including private colleges.

The plan comes as the Senate�s education and employment references committee continues to investigate concerns about the operation, regulation and funding of VET providers in Australia.

In an interim report on 2 March, the Labor committee chair Sue Lines said numerous submissions highlighted concerning reports of aggressive marketing techniques used by private education companies and education brokers.

Lines noted the rapid increase in government funding to non-Tafe providers since the implementation of a market-driven funding model for VET in 2012.

�Specifically, the committee notes that government payments to non-Tafe providers for VET delivery was $523.4m in 2008, compared to $1,362.8m in 2013,� the report said.

�The committee is also concerned about the increased volume in VET Fee-Help funding to for-profit VET providers who retain a substantial amount of the loan as profit � The committee is also concerned by evidence suggesting that 40% of all VET Fee-Help loans will not be repaid due to lack of job opportunities for VET graduates and low wages.�

# ? Mar 12, 2015 03:08

Thinking: Jan 22, 2009

Hope there is a royal commission into Christopher Pyne's own personal responsibility for these dodgy tertiary education schemes

# ? Mar 12, 2015 03:28

Regular Wario: Mar 27, 2010; Slippery Tilde

I have a question about the NSW election ads. How are the NSW Business Chamber allowed to run ads that are for the sale of the electricity poles and wires? Shouldn't they be remaining impartial instead of throwing in with the Libs?

# ? Mar 12, 2015 03:40

open24hours: Jan 7, 2001

The NSW Business Chamber is a lobby group, not a public service.

# ? Mar 12, 2015 03:43

Endman: May 18, 2010; That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die

Birdstrike posted:

echo_chamber.txt

Great minds think alike. :colbert:

# ? Mar 12, 2015 03:52

markgreyam: Mar 10, 2008; Talk to the mittens.

open24hours posted:

More uni stuff.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...311-141cf5.html

"I'm concerned about the evidence of skill shortages in some labour markets and oversupply of graduates in others," Senator Carr will say.

"There is an oversupply of law graduates, for example, and a chronic undersupply of graduates in STEM disciplines.

Can't imagine why people wouldn't want to enroll in those courses. There are so many secure jobs for graduates.

Has Australia actually ever really been a country heavily dedicated to science? I know that under the current government science is seen as a joke (presumably because you don't need science to know that goddidit) but current graduates wouldn't have been starting under a LNP government and yet there is still this imbalance. Is that just a "gotta make money" thing or a reflection on this country as a whole?

I switched from science to computer "science" when I was at university (completed my degree and been working tedious IT jobs for too long now), and I want to return to get a second degree in a STEM field but I get a lot of questions from people about the chances of employment from that, and it seems a pretty fair point.

# ? Mar 12, 2015 04:05

Mattjpwns: Dec 14, 2006; In joyful strains then let us sing
ADVANCE AUSTRALIA FUCKED

Endman posted:

Great minds think alike.

Stupid ones seldom differ. :smugbert:

# ? Mar 12, 2015 04:10

Regular Wario: Mar 27, 2010; Slippery Tilde

open24hours posted:

The NSW Business Chamber is a lobby group, not a public service.

Oh okay, thanks for the help.

# ? Mar 12, 2015 04:14

Birb Katter: Sep 18, 2010; BOATS STOPPED
CARBON TAX AXED
TURNBULL AS PM
LIBERALS WILL BE RE-ELECTED IN A LANDSLIDE

Mattjpwns posted:

Stupid ones seldom differ.

If you've ever read the dummy spits in the freep thread you'd know this is not true at all.

# ? Mar 12, 2015 04:15

Mattjpwns: Dec 14, 2006; In joyful strains then let us sing
ADVANCE AUSTRALIA FUCKED

markgreyam posted:

Has Australia actually ever really been a country heavily dedicated to science? I know that under the current government science is seen as a joke (presumably because you don't need science to know that goddidit) but current graduates wouldn't have been starting under a LNP government and yet there is still this imbalance. Is that just a "gotta make money" thing or a reflection on this country as a whole?

I switched from science to computer "science" when I was at university (completed my degree and been working tedious IT jobs for too long now), and I want to return to get a second degree in a STEM field but I get a lot of questions from people about the chances of employment from that, and it seems a pretty fair point.

Research is only one part of STEM jobs, and I know far too many people who went into a STEM field with the goal of becoming researchers who are now working tedious IT jobs. Competition is intense and positions are few - even when times were "better".

It would probably help if they were more specific about what specifics they're looking for in STEM graduates to meet the oft claimed "shortfall". It's a broad field.

# ? Mar 12, 2015 04:19

Redcordial: Nov 7, 2009; TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP

lol the country is fed up with your safe spaces and trigger warnings you useless special snowflakes, send the sjws to mexico

I'm not sure of the validity of this yet, but it is concerning either way...

From the Victorian sector of the Refugee Action Collective ;

"We have just had word that a Nepalese asylum seeker is being forcibly transferred to Nauru from Broadmeadows Detention Centre (MITA) now. If anyone can get to the airport to help distribute leaflets so people can try and halt this, please do. "

The human trafficking sadly continues.

# ? Mar 12, 2015 04:20

Negative Entropy: Nov 30, 2009

March Brisbane Auspol Goonmeet.

Mu'ooz. West End.
~East African foods~

This monday (16th) or the next monday (23rd)?

Also:

quote:

Good afternoon Andrew.

Thank you for your email and kind words.

We have passed your email and invitation onto Anthony for when he is next in the Electorate Office.

Please do not hesitate to keep in touch.

Regards

Janet Hackwood
Assistant Electorate Officer
Office of Dr Anthony Lynham MP
State Member for Stafford
207/6 Babarra Street
Stafford Qld 4053
Telephone: 3356 4367

# ? Mar 12, 2015 04:20

open24hours: Jan 7, 2001

markgreyam posted:

Has Australia actually ever really been a country heavily dedicated to science? I know that under the current government science is seen as a joke (presumably because you don't need science to know that goddidit) but current graduates wouldn't have been starting under a LNP government and yet there is still this imbalance. Is that just a "gotta make money" thing or a reflection on this country as a whole?

I switched from science to computer "science" when I was at university (completed my degree and been working tedious IT jobs for too long now), and I want to return to get a second degree in a STEM field but I get a lot of questions from people about the chances of employment from that, and it seems a pretty fair point.

I think the main reason people don't go into science is because you can make more money with more security and less grant writing in other fields. The lack of government support just exacerbates that.

It's really a moral argument, we can probably keep digging things out of the ground and buying technology from overseas more or less indefinitely, but I'd really like the country to aspire to something more, and if people like Kim Carr are going to bemoan the lack of STEM graduates then they should be committing to supporting STEM industries.

# ? Mar 12, 2015 04:21

Endman: May 18, 2010; That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVk0_7e1QXc

# ? Mar 12, 2015 04:27

blacksun: Mar 16, 2006; I told Cwapface not to register me with a title that said I am a faggot but he did it anyway because he likes to tell the truth.

Still proposing MelbGoon meet at the family friendly establishment, Revolver Upstairs.

# ? Mar 12, 2015 04:31

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# ? May 24, 2024 19:03

Halo14: Sep 11, 2001

Endman posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVk0_7e1QXc

Holy poo poo that's great. Pro-Click.

# ? Mar 12, 2015 04:39

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