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Ruh roh, it's that time againquote:At the hearing Wednesday Martinez, the former state House Speaker, said "rape is defined in many ways and some of it is just drunken college sex." His remarks were concerning a bill that would remove parental rights for rapists, according to The Santa Fe New Mexican. Hahahawaitaminute a democrat said this my political worldview is shattered
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comes along bort posted:Y'know, relatively useless politicians cracking wise about suspending democracy on camera isn't limited to the GOP. Isn't the joke that congress does suspend elections for 2 year periods already? BetterToRuleInHell posted:Ruh roh, it's that time again At least he has a better excuse than most Republicans: quote:Martinez also said that Republicans who criticized him for saying that rape can be "just drunken sex" left out that he said the phrase "without the ability to consent," according to the Santa Fe New Mexican. Trabisnikof fucked around with this message at 22:18 on Mar 12, 2015 |
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Mar 12, 2015 22:16
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Rudy Giuliani thinks Obama should be more like Bill Cosby I saw this on Twitter and figured the headline was an eye roller, but nope, catch the quotes from hizzonor. Obama needs to be more like that honorable and forthright man Bill Cosby, and also Obama is the blame for every crime committed by a black person ever (also there are way more crimes committed by blacks that you know, Obama is hiding black criminality so he can ignore it) This guy... Wow.
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Fried Chicken posted:(and I'd bet all the money in my pockets against all the money in your pockets this is the case) Hieronymous Alloy posted:Right. compare with, e.g., http://www.vox.com/2015/3/2/8120063/american-democracy-doomed Hieronymous Alloy posted:There was a followup article on Vox the next day that I think was a good response: site fucked around with this message at 22:41 on Mar 12, 2015 |
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Mar 12, 2015 22:19
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Mechafunkzilla posted:There are plenty of legitimate and substantial things to attack Republicans on instead of this stupid bullshit. Harping on it makes the accusers look worse than Graham. This is precisely the kinds of attacks right wing pundits engage in all the time. Hitting The Republicans on these gaffes keeps them on the defensive, not advocating their dumb policies. And I think at this point we can all agree that a sober discussion of the failing of Republican policy fails to strike a spark. zoux posted:OK, do you think that Lindsey Graham, who has been in congress for 20 years, was seriously advocating using the military to keep the Congress in session to restore military cuts or was he using humor or hyperbole? Does it matter? If Obama made a joke about using the military in that way or dismissed 50% of disability claimants as moochers, you can be sure it'd be seized by the Republicans. Just like the 47% gaffe by Romney or the "legitimate rape" comment, the Dems need to use these comments for all they're worth - without looking like they are, of course.
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Things getting fiesty in South Carolina http://www.wistv.com/story/28399640/harsh-political-words-little-progress-made-on-budget quote:Even before the dinner break, House Minority Leader Todd Rutherford went on the attack against Gov. Nikki Haley, who has actively campaigned against the bonds package. In case you missed the facebook story, last week Haley committed the mortal sin of shaking hands with Obama when he visited the state for the first time since 2008 and things got racist http://www.fitsnews.com/2015/03/10/nikki-haleys-facebook-page-blows-barack-obama-hate/
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Fried Chicken posted:Rudy Giuliani thinks Obama should be more like Bill Cosby I think Bill Kristol and Rudy Giuliani and Dick Morris are all in some kind of hosed UP race to say the most wrong thing possible, and I think Giuliani may have just kicked the poo poo out of all of them. My imagination can't even put together a more wrong headline than that. Like, savor the fact that he's Rudy fuckin Giuliani, and he's scolding Obama, but he's completely just... Bill Cosby is a fuckin rapist, this isn't 1999... I think I've had enough internet for today.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Basically, "if trends continue," the executive is just going to accrete more and more power over time until we basically get to a system of elected dictators. Then there will be a major crisis and one of those dictators will suspend elections, and welp According to Plato: Aristocracy v Timocracy v Oligarchy v Democracy <-- You are here v Tyranny
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Mar 12, 2015 22:52
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Speaking of Bill Kristol, he's now saying that he only "advised" on the Iran letter in response to criticism that he drafted it. (He totally did write it.)
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There's pretty wide freedom given to reservists. The thrust of the regulations is to prohibit the appearance of that the service itself is taking a position on a political manner. Another notable reservist:  Colonel Lindsey Graham
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CaptainCarrot posted:Stupid Vermont Congresscritter, addressing an issue important to many of his constituents. gently caress off, sole remaining Watergate baby!  That O'Malley thing is legit btw. I should Storify it
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Quidam Viator posted:I think Bill Kristol and Rudy Giuliani and Dick Morris are all in some kind of hosed UP race to say the most wrong thing possible, and I think Giuliani may have just kicked the poo poo out of all of them. My imagination can't even put together a more wrong headline than that. Like, savor the fact that he's Rudy fuckin Giuliani, and he's scolding Obama, but he's completely just... Bill Cosby is a fuckin rapist, this isn't 1999... I think I've had enough internet for today. And then Bill Cosby turned out to be a serial rapist so that kind of stopped, until now. The speech in question: A millionaire serial rapist posted:They're standing on the corner and they can't speak English. I can't even talk the way these people talk: Why you ain't, Where you is, What he drive, Where he stay, Where he work, Who you be... And I blamed the kid until I heard the mother talk. And then I heard the father talk.
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:Before we found out he was a serial rapist, Bill Cosby was known by conservatives as "One of the good ones" because he gave a speech at an NAACP event about how black people need to stop calling themselves victims and stop wearing their clothes all wrong. Conservatives circulated the speech to show that they totally weren't racist, and were like "Why can't they listen to this friendly black sitcom dad instead of those violent rappers?!" This just proves to conservatives that all black people are criminals though. 
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:Before we found out he was a serial rapist, Bill Cosby was known by conservatives as "One of the good ones" because he gave a speech at an NAACP event about how black people need to stop calling themselves victims and stop wearing their clothes all wrong. Conservatives circulated the speech to show that they totally weren't racist, and were like "Why can't they listen to this friendly black sitcom dad instead of those violent rappers?!" Wow.....FYGM Cosby style.
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lamentable dustman posted:Things getting fiesty in South Carolina I was going to read that link but it starts off pretty much immediately talking about her 'hooker boots' so I stopped.
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:Before we found out he was a serial rapist, Bill Cosby was known by conservatives as "One of the good ones" because he gave a speech at an NAACP event about how black people need to stop calling themselves victims and stop wearing their clothes all wrong. Conservatives circulated the speech to show that they totally weren't racist, and were like "Why can't they listen to this friendly black sitcom dad instead of those violent rappers?!" What I'm getting out of this is that Bill Cosby doesn't understand dialects.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:There was a followup article on Vox the next day that I think was a good response: People coming up with scenarios where the American government fails really seem fixated on the president seizing control some way or another and just ignoring checks and balances. The stronger executive has gotten there by presidents pushing for broader interpretations of their existing powers and not doing things like suspending elections. A president who interprets their Congressionally granted powers in a broad manner is a completely different beast than one who dissolves Congress. The problem is that all sorts of bad stuff can happen while everyone's still nominally part of a representative democracy. States can suppress the vote, state legislatures can gerrymander and allocate electoral votes by district. We can have a crisis because Boehner gets replaced and his successor can't come up with anything but the most maximalist demands for the next shutdown. Obama can't resolve it unilaterally, the Republicans won't budge and the system has no way to resolve the impasse.
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chitoryu12 posted:What I'm getting out of this is that Bill Cosby doesn't understand dialects. Which is hilarious considering his comedy
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Bill fuckin' Cosby posted:Someone working at Wal-Mart with seven kids, you are hurting us. Ah no wonder republicans loved this speech so much.
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Mar 13, 2015 00:04
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Hey poor black people if ya'll could stop existing that'd be the best, you're making me look bad!
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Anyone who has not read Ta-Nehisi Coates's 2008 article about Cosby really owes it to themselves to do so.
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soon Cosby will be telling stories alongside Jerry Clower in hell jerry clower probably is not in hell but I'm sure there is train,
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Joementum posted:Bonus quote of the day, "Were happy to debate all the amendments they want including Vitters stupid amendment. ~ Harry Reid. In case you're curious, there's been no agreement on this yet. McConnell filed for cloture this afternoon, with a 60-threshold vote scheduled for Tuesday (there will be some executive branch confirmation votes on Monday), but the Senate stands adjourned. So far only five bills have become law in the 114th Congress.
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Joementum posted:In case you're curious, there's been no agreement on this yet. McConnell filed for cloture this afternoon, with a 60-threshold vote scheduled for Tuesday (there will be some executive branch confirmation votes on Monday), but the Senate stands adjourned. I'll give Congress this, no one voted against honoring the Selma marchers or preventing veteran suicides.
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Jagchosis posted:I'll give Congress this, no one voted against honoring the Selma marchers or preventing veteran suicides. You mean the vet anti-suicide bill that would have passed last session had one senator not blocked it?
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Trabisnikof posted:You mean the vet anti-suicide bill that would have passed last session had one senator not blocked it? Was the senator Ted Cruz
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Jagchosis posted:Was the senator Ted Cruz Nope. If it was Ted, the bill would still be blocked. It was Tom Coburn who wanted one of his last acts in the senate to be blocking vets from getting help to prevent suicide.
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Coburn also blocked TRIA at the end of the last session, which is one of the five bills passed this year now that he's retired. So two of the five bills are stuff that should have passed in December.
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Quote of the night, Im sorry to hear it. I thought you might become the first Jewish speaker. ~ Tip O'Neill, when Barney Frank told him he was gay in 1986.
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Joementum posted:Coburn also blocked TRIA at the end of the last session, which is one of the five bills passed this year now that he's retired. So two of the five bills are stuff that should have passed in December. But you see, the gridlock was broken after an election in which we voted out Democrats. Therefore, it must be the case that Democrats were the ones holding up that bill, not our loyal Republican colleague Coburn! The Party of No, everyone!
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ComradeCosmobot posted:But you see, the gridlock was broken after an election in which we voted out Democrats. That'd be an interesting argument for them to make if the gridlock had actually been broken, but it's becoming increasingly obvious that Mitch isn't going to increase productivity in the Senate.
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Joementum posted:That'd be an interesting argument for them to make if the gridlock had actually been broken, but it's becoming increasingly obvious that Mitch isn't going to increase productivity in the Senate. Oh, but you see gridlock has been broken, relatively speaking. They are one bill ahead of where they were this point in the 113th (VAWA re-authorization was the fourth bill of the 113th, and passed March 7th), which only ties them as of tomorrow. Suffice to say, Republicans can happily continue to crow that the only reason they haven't done even better is that voters haven't voted out ENOUGH Democrats.
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ComradeCosmobot posted:Oh, but you see gridlock has been broken, relatively speaking. They are one bill ahead of where they were this point in the 113th (VAWA re-authorization was the fourth bill of the 113th, and passed March 7th), which only ties them as of tomorrow. Suffice to say, Republicans can happily continue to crow that the only reason they haven't done even better is that voters haven't voted out ENOUGH Democrats. Specifically the one Democrat with veto power.
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The House is about to pass an immigration bill. Let us gaze in awe upon Rep. Chaffetz's act.quote:Asylum Reform and Border Protection Act of 2015 Did you catch that? The one loosening of immigration in the bill? It is to deal with the horror that is Germany requiring children to attend public schools because Hitler made homeschooling illegal in 1938!
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I just loving hate their insistence on using the word "alien" instead of "immigrant." I hate it so loving much. It's disgusting.
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Joementum posted:The House is about to pass an immigration bill. Let us gaze in awe upon Rep. Chaffetz's act. Amends Statue of Liberty to say 'gently caress Off'
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:I just loving hate their insistence on using the word "alien" instead of "immigrant." I hate it so loving much. It's disgusting. Why? It's a normal legal term, so it's not really a surprise that it would be used in a bill
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Dr. Tough posted:Why? It's a normal legal term, so it's not really a surprise that it would be used in a bill Because its an extremely stupid and denigrating term to use, migrant or Illegal migrant (to denote that they are *gasp* migrating in an illegal manner) works fine. poo poo when I was stationed on a coast guard boat on the east coast we would refer to AMIO as Migrant Interdiction Ops and refuse to acknowledge the alien part because they are people not loving aliens.
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poo poo man, I'm honestly kind of surprised they don't just refer to them as "illegals" throughout the entire bill.
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ElMaligno posted:Because its an extremely stupid and denigrating term to use, migrant or Illegal migrant (to denote that they are *gasp* migrating in an illegal manner) works fine. poo poo when I was stationed on a coast guard boat on the east coast we would refer to AMIO as Migrant Interdiction Ops and refuse to acknowledge the alien part because they are people not loving aliens. Alien is a precise internationally recognized legal term in this context. Like I think I filled out 2 entry cards last month that had alien in the title (Japan and RoC) hobbesmaster fucked around with this message at 03:41 on Mar 13, 2015 |
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