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I'm betting it's Magic by a country mile. Magic's been growing and growing super fast for several years. GW is making GBS threads it's pants trying to stay solvent and generally just pissing off its fan base.
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Mar 13, 2015 00:58
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Irony Be My Shield posted:There are exactly 60 1/1's in standard right now. So for this to be balanced it'd take 60 1-damage spells. Apparently Lightning Strike, Anger of the Gods, Stoke the Flames et. al. don't count because ??????? ?? ? ?????
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Mar 13, 2015 01:00
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Henron posted:The New Set Sucks
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Mar 13, 2015 01:01
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I regularly attend a game shop where a dozen different games are going on at any time. The over-generalization and flat out lies that players of game X will tell to explain why they hate game Y are always a pleasure to listen to.
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Mar 13, 2015 01:08
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Dohaeris posted:I like Standard as a concept, with just the newer sets, because looking into something like Modern or Legacy is super intimidating. I learned to play as a kid but didn't seriously start until a month ago and getting into one of those just seems daunting. A few standard rotations under my belt though, and I can see that being much more interesting. Also as an adult with an actual job that gives me disposable income, the entire game is way more appealing than it was as a kid. It sounds like money might not be the biggest concern, but I'd argue that top tier standard is harder to keep up with than modern just due to constant new cards and rotations. Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:This man has not seen Magic in over 15 years. Yeah I was about to say, this is definitely a guy who tried playing a duel deck at fnm after not having played in 15 years. Understandable, but still really funny that his retreat is the Warhammer thread
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:On an unrelated note: I started on Pucatrade. I want to send some poo poo out, but I think my display preferences are hosed. The only card in my collection anyone in America seems to want is Battlefield Thaumaturge. That can't be right, can it? Adding Canada adds Oath of Druids only. I have a ton of sweet Standard, Modern and Legacy stuff. Is Pucatrade just not used in America? I think it's that you need people who want something off your have list, who also have a large enough points balance to debit once you claim their points by sending to them. My understanding is as soon as you earn some points people will be refreshing their own have lists and giving you something in order to get your points ASAP.
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Mar 13, 2015 01:16
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Pucatrade is all about the  Just list your stuff, and check back every hour or so. I do the bulk of my trading with Americans, even though I currently live in Japan. And list as much stuff as you can reasonably keep track of -- there are a ton of people on PucaTrade just looking for weird commons and uncommons from previous sets to round out their EDH decks and other pet decks. If you can send 5 or more cards in a single go, you're offsetting the cost of shipping. Also, if you see someone who wants a card you're willing to ship, click on their name and check what else in on their list. You may be able to send more stuff if they have a card listed that you have, but didn't list.
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Mar 13, 2015 01:21
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:Wait, 1 damage interrupts? There's never been an interrupt that dealt damage! Remember when Mystical Tutor searched for interrupts and mana sources letting you yoink lands out of your deck. 
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Mar 13, 2015 01:37
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Yawgmoth posted:You'll change your tune when they release Return to Lorwyn and the new keyword is fishbrick. I don't even care what fishbrick does, I just want it to exist.
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Mar 13, 2015 01:48
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AlternateNu posted:Remember when Mystical Tutor searched for interrupts and mana sources letting you yoink lands out of your deck. Lands aren't mana sources! 
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Mar 13, 2015 01:49
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suicidesteve posted:Lands aren't mana sources! Then me and my friends were playing it wrong for a loooooong time. 
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Mar 13, 2015 01:57
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AlternateNu posted:Then me and my friends were playing it wrong for a loooooong time. For a few years, Mana Source was a separate card type. 
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"Mana Source" is a card type that appeared exactly twice ever, Dark Ritual and Culling the Weak. RIP weird old card type, go join Enchant World and Interrupt in Valhalla.
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:"Mana Source" is a card type that appeared exactly twice ever, Dark Ritual and Culling the Weak. RIP weird old card type, go join Enchant World and Interrupt in Valhalla. Enchant World still sort-of exists, it's just that World is a supertype now (so in theory you could have World Creature, World Artifact, etc.).
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:"Mana Source" is a card type that appeared exactly twice ever, Dark Ritual and Culling the Weak. RIP weird old card type, go join Enchant World and Interrupt in Valhalla. World is a supertype that is still in the rules; only one World permanent can be in play at a time. Theoretically this could come into play today if you tried to play Nether Void and Concordant Crossroads at the same time, or if you could give creatures the supertype. World Creature - Sponge. So it's more like Banding and Phasing in that they're still supported game terms, but they just don't make more because it doesn't really add anything. Mana Source and Interrupt are defunct card types that were rolled up into Instant back in 6th edition. A Tempest Dark Ritual is printed as a Mana Source but the rules grasp it as an Instant like any other. This had the side effect of making rit counterable but oh well.
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Mar 13, 2015 02:07
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Dungeon Ecology posted:Pucatrade is all about the These are good tips. I use a Chrome extension called Page Monitor that will refresh a site as often as you'd like and play a noise if there is a change. This makes it a lot easier to catch good trades because they won't be up for long.
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Mar 13, 2015 02:11
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Actually, I think you can make a World Creature - Sponge. Play any World Enchantment, Opalescence, Darksteel Mutation targeting the world enchantment, and then Conspiracy naming Sponge.
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Mar 13, 2015 02:13
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Missed opportunity to make Progenitus a World Creature.
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When are they going to bring back Rampage, though?
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Mayostard posted:When are they going to bring back Rampage, though? Rampage is just confusing Bushido And if you don't like Craw Giant, gently caress you http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=109748
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vOv posted:Actually, I think you can make a World Creature - Sponge. Play any World Enchantment, Opalescence, Darksteel Mutation targeting the world enchantment, and then Conspiracy naming Sponge. Dammit, I thought backwards, making something notworld a world, instead of making something world have other types.
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vOv posted:Enchant World still sort-of exists, it's just that World is a supertype now (so in theory you could have World Creature, World Artifact, etc.).
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I'm curious what they'll replace Annihilator with, considering it's at Storm Scale 8 and regarded as too punishing. Maybe something where you have to connect with your opponent.
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Mar 13, 2015 03:10
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I've been out of magic for a long time. Looking at recent winning standard decks. Since when can you build competituve standard decks for ~$200? The top 8 of GP Miami are all under $250.
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Irony Be My Shield posted:I'm curious what they'll replace Annihilator with, considering it's at Storm Scale 8 and regarded as too punishing. Maybe something where you have to connect with your opponent. Jokulhaupinator compton rear end terry posted:I've been out of magic for a long time. Looking at recent winning standard decks. Since when can you build competituve standard decks for ~$200? The top 8 of GP Miami are all under $250. You can build a fairly competitive deck for <$20 if you do the all-one-drops no-Rabblemasters version of mono red aggro.
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:For a few years, Mana Source was a separate card type. What this actually meant was that Dark Ritual was completely uncounterable for a while. Even a Nether Void that you neglected to pay for would fail to counter Dark Ritual.
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Angry Grimace posted:What this actually meant was that Dark Ritual was completely uncountable for a while. Was that because it was real? woo extremely bad math jokes Edit: oh you fixed it 
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I still don't understand why Tribal is considered a card type and not just a supertype. Hell, I don't even understand why Bitterblossom needs to have "Tribal" on its line at all to function.
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compton rear end terry posted:I've been out of magic for a long time. Looking at recent winning standard decks. Since when can you build competituve standard decks for ~$200? The top 8 of GP Miami are all under $250.
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:Wait, 1 damage interrupts? There's never been an interrupt that dealt damage! Sudden Shock is pretty close!
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Angry Grimace posted:I still don't understand why Tribal is considered a card type and not just a supertype. So you could reveal it as a faerie for some synergy. Also, if you use cavern of souls, naming faerie, they cannot counter it. It makes it even better basically.
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Gensuki posted:So you could reveal it as a faerie for some synergy. I don't understand why it can't have the subtype "Faerie" without the Tribal type. Why can't it just be "Enchantment - Faerie?" Or a supertype (the current super types are "Snow," "World," "Basic", "Legendary," "Snow," and "World.") (Also, Cavern of Souls only works with creatures. You can't even use the mana from cavern of souls for something that isn't a creature.) Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 03:36 on Mar 13, 2015 |
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Irony Be My Shield posted:The past few sets haven't had that much in the way of eternal playables I guess? And I guess Khans was opened so much that even the super chase lands are now at a reasonable cost. How far are we going back? RTR gave us Abrupt Decay and Deathrite Shaman, as well as shocklands reprints. I'm fairly sure Supreme Verdict and Sphinx's Revelation see some fringe play in modern as well. Voice of Resurgence is a Hatebears mainstay. Theros block has Courser, Brimaz, and Keranos, I think Spirit of the Labyrinth saw a little play as well. Innistrad has some stuff as well if we wanna go back three blocks.
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There's quite a bit of stuff that sees play or has been banned in eternal formats from tarkir block as well.
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There's a mailbag on dailymtg from way back by Kelly Diges which goes in to some detail. More than Maro's podcast episode on tribal. Phone posting so I can't find it, but as I recall the arguments did not seem all that convincing. I.E. if they really wanted to they could have made it a supertype.
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Abrupt Decay is the absolute nuts but is in colors you very rarely hear anyone complaining about so it somehow flies under the radar. Oh and Deathrite Shaman is also the nuts and for some reason people were in denial about this and very mad when it ate a Modern ban.
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Deck prices are low because so much of khans/theros is active in standard, there's no clear best deck which flattens out card values when it comes to stuff standard players have on hand. It probably costs as much as usual to have as large a chunk of the metagame available to you, but the metagame is pretty drat big atm.
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:There's a mailbag on dailymtg from way back by Kelly Diges which goes in to some detail. More than Maro's podcast episode on tribal. Phone posting so I can't find it, but as I recall the arguments did not seem all that convincing. I.E. if they really wanted to they could have made it a supertype. I'm not a judge, so I don't know the rules down to layers or anything, I just know that it seems like it could be a Supertype for the purposes of that type mattering (e.g. Legendary as a supertype matters all the time) and just have a "subtype" for anything else. I googled it and the answers I found didn't seem all that convincing either (since they weren't explaining the rules conflict very well).
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There are apparently good but boring rules reasons why you can't just jam creature subtypes onto things. http://archive.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtgcom/feature/426 Count Bleck posted:How far are we going back? RTR gave us Abrupt Decay and Deathrite Shaman, as well as shocklands reprints. I'm fairly sure Supreme Verdict and Sphinx's Revelation see some fringe play in modern as well.
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