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Jedit posted:It's literally Short Circuit set in South Africa and replacing Ally Sheedy with a brace of lovely rappers. Ally Sheedy 100% my poo poo
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Zaphod42 posted:This is the part that confused me. First of all, where is this coming from? Does T1 or T2 explain this, or is it all T3/TSCC/TS/extended universe ? I think in T1, Reese explains that after Skynet nuked the planet, it didn't so much try to wipe out the survivors as it rounded them up and put them into labor camps and factories, where they would presumably later be terminated. Now, I don't know how the rounding-up part worked (probably with some technology that's far less advanced than the T-800s) but that was the basic state of affairs until Connor appeared. Connor then leads a couple of rebellions in the camps, takes the survivors, trains them and they get themselves armed. That leads to the resistance, and to the war. For me, that seems to make sense: Skynet would use primitive/bulky military equipment like cheap Hunter-Killers, drones, etc. to round up survivors, and that would provide it with the factories it needs. It also explains why the resistance has a chance at all: Skynet probably didn't have the material for an all-out war, and by the time it gets ready to build a few T-800s it already has a rebellion on its hands. The moment it lost momentum, it lost control over the situation. Same goes for the rebellion: without Connor getting everything going fast, Skynet probably would have had a near-infinite army of T800s and resistance would have been futile.
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# ? Mar 11, 2015 20:58 |
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Zaphod42 posted:I guess the idea is that in THIS 1997 they are able to make a robotic manufacturing plant since they have the reverse-engineered technology from future-man 1st timeline? It's only '97 because that was far enough ahead of 1984 to be The Future!! and contain whatever technologies the writer says it does.
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# ? Mar 11, 2015 21:06 |
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A_Raving_Loon posted:It's only '97 because that was far enough ahead of 1984 to be The Future!! and contain whatever technologies the writer says it does. see also Demolition Man
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# ? Mar 11, 2015 21:11 |
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A_Raving_Loon posted:It's only '97 because that was far enough ahead of 1984 to be The Future!! and contain whatever technologies the writer says it does. Yeah that's kinda what I'm getting at here, the timetables don't really add up. I mean just having Connor go from the 80s/90s to living to see flying spaceships shooting purple pew pew lasers in one lifetime is pretty optimistic. It kinda makes sense if they reverse-engineered future technology, but then you get the whole time paradox situation. Time travel always has problems. Actually, are there any examples of fiction that use time travel where there aren't any plot holes and everything is airtight? I guess Primer might count, depending upon how you interpret that movie.
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# ? Mar 11, 2015 21:28 |
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Timecrimes but that's mostly because the time travel is so limited.
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# ? Mar 11, 2015 21:55 |
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Zaphod42 posted:Actually, are there any examples of fiction that use time travel where there aren't any plot holes and everything is airtight? Futurama, surprisingly enough, particularly with the first movie Bender's Big Score. It has a tight triple- or quadruple-woven single timeline. They blow it at the end for a laugh, but the bulk of the movie is surprisingly tight.
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Zaphod42 posted:Yeah that's kinda what I'm getting at here, the timetables don't really add up. 12 Monkeys. And I dunno, anyone wanna take a crack at Predestination?
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# ? Mar 11, 2015 23:32 |
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50+ posts in this thread always means someone popped in and said "time travel movie".
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# ? Mar 11, 2015 23:36 |
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I told you I told you! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWa0dZMHYeE Though to be fair, I love every Terminator discussion, learn something new every time!
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JebanyPedal posted:In Lethal Weapon Danny Glover and Mel Gibson are both at the shooting range, Danny Glover is supposed to be the alright shot with Mel Gibson being the fantastic paragon of all shooting. Except Danny Glover doesn't flinch or blink when he shoots and Mel Gibson seems to spaz and shut his eyes with every shot, it's retarded. I hate to drag up Terminator again, but: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-iht2VFcLY&t=29s Good thing he "coincidentally" gets his eye shot out halfway through the movie. E: poptart_fairy posted:Fairly sure my boxers flew off when he smiled at the camera. Pneub has a new favorite as of 01:39 on Mar 12, 2015 |
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Regarding the season four episode "Box Cutter" of Breaking Bad: Once they put Victor's body in a drum of, I'm assuming, hydrofluoric acid, they load it onto a truck. While the truck itself is labeled correctly, (UN1760, 8, which is Corrosive Liquid, n.o.s.) the drum itself has a weird yellow triangle label that reads "Corrosive 2" which is incorrect in a ridiculous number of ways. I'm curious as to how they got one part so right and the other so absurdly wrong. Maybe this is just the ranting of someone that's spent the last ten years in hazmat.
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# ? Mar 12, 2015 01:45 |
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Regarding the season four episode "Box Cutter" of Breaking Bad: They probably accidentally picked out the right truck.
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# ? Mar 12, 2015 01:47 |
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Regarding the season four episode "Box Cutter" of Breaking Bad: Why would it matter to them if the labelling was correct? When I dispose of bodies in drums of acid I just slap a random "danger" sticker on it to discourage people from opening it. If they do open it to test the contents they'll notice the sticker is wrong no matter what the sticker is because the government don't issue any hydrofluoric acid + corpse stickers.
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# ? Mar 12, 2015 02:25 |
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Anosmoman posted:Why would it matter to them if the labelling was correct? When I dispose of bodies in drums of acid I just slap a random "danger" sticker on it to discourage people from opening it. If they do open it to test the contents they'll notice the sticker is wrong no matter what the sticker is because the government don't issue any hydrofluoric acid + corpse stickers. Proper labelling would deter any DOT inspectors that may stop the truck along it's route to the disposal site. My irrationally irritating moment is the fact that the labeling on the truck was 100% accurate while the labeling on the drum was 100% inaccurate.
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# ? Mar 12, 2015 02:58 |
Speaking of Breaking Bad, in the episode where Jesse teaches the cartel cooks: They load a sample into a gas chromatograph, and then the camera zooms in on the temperature display dramatically rising to 96. 96 degrees isn't even high enough.
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# ? Mar 12, 2015 06:23 |
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I get the feeling that a lot of things in Breaking Bad are completely wrong if you have even cursory knowledge of how it really works. I mean, this is a show where they're apparently selling absurdly pure meth at street level without cutting it at all.
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Organza Quiz posted:I get the feeling that a lot of things in Breaking Bad are completely wrong if you have even cursory knowledge of how it really works. I mean, this is a show where they're apparently selling absurdly pure meth at street level without cutting it at all. They said that they deliberately bunged up some of the chemistry. That could be retconning or it could just be a good idea.
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# ? Mar 12, 2015 06:34 |
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Hydroflouric acid would be poo poo at disposing of bodies anyway. It's notable for etching glass and being a terrifying contact poison, but if you want to poison corpses something is kind of wrong with you. It's not that strong an acid. Lye, on the other hand...
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# ? Mar 12, 2015 07:01 |
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syscall girl posted:They said that they deliberately bunged up some of the chemistry. That could be retconning or it could just be a good idea. I can understand deliberately screwing with some of the chemistry in terms of how the stuff is made (like the temperature thing) but I can't see any good reason for acting as if taking near-pure meth is normal. I mean, it could even be dangerous if people think that's what's supposed to happen. Not that I think anyone would really take that much meth as a result of the show, I'm just saying that it can't exactly be a safety/not wanting to help people make drugs issue in this case.
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# ? Mar 12, 2015 07:22 |
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Organza Quiz posted:I can understand deliberately screwing with some of the chemistry in terms of how the stuff is made (like the temperature thing) but I can't see any good reason for acting as if taking near-pure meth is normal. I mean, it could even be dangerous if people think that's what's supposed to happen. Not that I think anyone would really take that much meth as a result of the show, I'm just saying that it can't exactly be a safety/not wanting to help people make drugs issue in this case. Pure meth you can eyeball (insert TCC joke here) and figure out how strong it's going to be with a little bump and whether doing a huge rail is going to burst a blood vessel in your brain (probably not.) Heroin is the one where 100% pure poo poo will kill junkies that are used to it being stomped on. Stimulants aren't as dangerous when it comes to the OD factor, which is why Jesse's girl didn't have a methamphetamine overdose but rather a good old fashioned heroin one.
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# ? Mar 12, 2015 07:27 |
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But the fact that their meth was absurdly pure was one of the big reasons why their criminal empire took off. It was far more potent, which is why everyone wanted it. I'm pretty sure it was even a plot point that other sources started dying their meth blue to try to pass it off as Heisenberg's meth.
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GIANT OUIJA BOARD posted:But the fact that their meth was absurdly pure was one of the big reasons why their criminal empire took off. It was far more potent, which is why everyone wanted it. I'm pretty sure it was even a plot point that other sources started dying their meth blue to try to pass it off as Heisenberg's meth. Even Gale, who was supposed to be only slightly less talented than Walt, couldn't account for the blue colour. Although Word of God have officially said it was only so that Walt's meth was visually distinct for viewers.
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# ? Mar 12, 2015 13:55 |
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Walt's meth is basically "supermeth" for plot reasons, slightly grounded in reality with the purity/uncut argument. If you imagine Walt made literal magic-superdrugs somehow the plot would function pretty much the same.
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Anosmoman posted:Why would it matter to them if the labelling was correct? When I dispose of bodies in drums of acid I just slap a random "danger" sticker on it to discourage people from opening it. If they do open it to test the contents they'll notice the sticker is wrong no matter what the sticker is because the government don't issue any hydrofluoric acid + corpse stickers. I slap a sticker that says carcass on it and people just think I'm joking.
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# ? Mar 12, 2015 14:28 |
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theironjef posted:50+ posts in this thread always means someone popped in and said "time travel movie". Or "Terminator", "Batman", "Star Wars", "Lord of the Rings" and "Harry Potter"
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Frostwerks posted:I slap a sticker that says carcass on it and people just think I'm joking. Aren't there proper 'bio-hazard' labels where you come from? I figure you just need the two labels, corrosive and bio-hazard, and you'll be fine! The way I understood the problem, it was more that the container didn't have the label that a drum in a vehicle like that should have - as in, it's suspicious in the same way a box labeled 'frozen sausages' would be suspicious in a car labeled 'cake-transportation'.
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BiggerBoat posted:Or "Terminator", "Batman", "Star Wars", "Lord of the Rings" and "Harry Potter" Either a time travel movie or Terminator or Harry Potter.
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# ? Mar 12, 2015 18:48 |
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You know what movies had time travel? Harry Potter.
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aerion111 posted:Aren't there proper 'bio-hazard' labels where you come from? That's half of what I was getting at. In-universe, it's weird that they'd call attention to the drum in the event of the truck being pulled over (and trucks displaying DOT hazard placards get pulled over constantly) by using a pathetically incorrect label. In terms of the show, again, it's weird that they went out of their way to have the truck placard be 100% correct and the drum label be 100% incorrect.
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# ? Mar 12, 2015 20:55 |
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mng posted:You know what movies had time travel?
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Pope Corky the IX posted:That's half of what I was getting at. In-universe, it's weird that they'd call attention to the drum in the event of the truck being pulled over (and trucks displaying DOT hazard placards get pulled over constantly) by using a pathetically incorrect label. In terms of the show, again, it's weird that they went out of their way to have the truck placard be 100% correct and the drum label be 100% incorrect. Maybe they didn't go out of their way to get a correct truck and just called up an actual hazmat transport company and asked to use one of their trucks in a scene. Then loaded up their props dept supplied barrel and there you go. I mean, maybe some intern dug through DOT regs to come up with all the right placards and signs for the truck and then decided to look at some porn when it came to the barrel, but it could be more mundane than that.
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# ? Mar 12, 2015 22:17 |
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gently caress
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# ? Mar 12, 2015 22:37 |
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Arrath posted:Maybe they didn't go out of their way to get a correct truck and just called up an actual hazmat transport company and asked to use one of their trucks in a scene. Then loaded up their props dept supplied barrel and there you go. I mean, maybe some intern dug through DOT regs to come up with all the right placards and signs for the truck and then decided to look at some porn when it came to the barrel, but it could be more mundane than that. Trust me, I know my complaint is the epitome of the title of this thread.
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Trust me, I know my complaint is the epitome of the title of this thread. It's certainly a good example. An actual small mistake that most people aren't going to notice or care about. I had no idea that they got any of the labels wrong or right myself.
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# ? Mar 12, 2015 23:06 |
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mng posted:gently caress All we need now is for Batman or Superman to travel through time in Batman V. Superman and maybe this thread can go on forever. Bonus points if they fight a Terminator while playing Quidditch or whatever the gently caress it is.
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# ? Mar 12, 2015 23:50 |
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BiggerBoat posted:All we need now is for Batman or Superman to travel through time in Batman V. Superman and maybe this thread can go on forever. Bonus points if they fight a Terminator while playing Quidditch or whatever the gently caress it is. oh boy, fanfiction is writing itself! Hermione as the T-800 model.
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# ? Mar 13, 2015 00:35 |
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mng posted:oh boy, fanfiction is writing itself! Yes, the movie will also have an invisible ghost that writes terrible fanfiction.
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# ? Mar 13, 2015 06:56 |
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cheerfullydrab posted:Yes, the movie will also have an invisible ghost that writes terrible fanfiction. Your Ghostwriter reboot sounds poo poo, to be honest.
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# ? Mar 13, 2015 14:25 |
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Fil5000 posted:Your Ghostwriter reboot sounds poo poo, to be honest. Screw Ghostwriter, when can a brother get himself a Wishbone reboot?
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