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Segmentation Fault
Jun 7, 2012

PassTheRemote posted:

The joys of the ignore list.

ANOTHER ONE ADDED TO THE MUTE LIST MMMHMM

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Sephiroth_IRA
Mar 31, 2010

dijon du jour posted:

You know what? Never mind. This isn't a dialogue I want to enter.

That's too bad because what you wrote was accurate.

Terrible Opinions
Oct 18, 2013



Hbomberguy you strike me as a person who cut their teeth in an environment (school, family, forum, etc) that had very strict policies about "personal attacks" so you avoid any direct insults but are really good at being absurdly annoying with passive aggressive implied insults. This is done so you can get someone else to insult you first, thereby "losing" the argument.

Hbomberguy
Jul 4, 2009

[culla=big red]TufFEE did nO THINg W̡RA̸NG[/read]


You know what? You're right. I'm being a petty rear end in a top hat and wasting people's time. I really am sorry. I'll do better in future.

By way of an apology, if any of you have anything in particular you want to see in the next Sarkeesian Effect video, let me know.

Slate Action
Feb 13, 2012

by exmarx

Hbomberguy posted:

By way of an apology, if any of you have anything in particular you want to see in the next Sarkeesian Effect video, let me know.

I'm gonna need a Background Toy Skull update.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Hbomberguy posted:

By way of an apology, if any of you have anything in particular you want to see in the next Sarkeesian Effect video, let me know.

I know this isn't addressed to me, but I'm quite curious if Davis Aurini is one of the GamerGate guys who praised Jack Thompson when he came out against Anita Sarkeesian. I mean, it's pretty entertaining that GamerGate raises all this opprobrium toward Anita Sarkeesian, someone they think is destroying video games, then turns around and welcomes with open arms Jack Thompson, someone who actually did try to destroy video games.

Junkfist
Oct 7, 2004

FRIEND?
I haven't seen Anita and Jack in the same room together so let's not jump to conclusions.

BravestOfTheLamps
Oct 12, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Lipstick Apathy

Hbomberguy posted:

By way of an apology, if any of you have anything in particular you want to see in the next Sarkeesian Effect video, let me know.

You should mention Roosh of Don't Bang Denmark fame, since he's partnering with them or something.

e:

Wheat Loaf posted:

I know this isn't addressed to me, but I'm quite curious if Davis Aurini is one of the GamerGate guys who praised Jack Thompson when he came out against Anita Sarkeesian. I mean, it's pretty entertaining that GamerGate raises all this opprobrium toward Anita Sarkeesian, someone they think is destroying video games, then turns around and welcomes with open arms Jack Thompson, someone who actually did try to destroy video games.

Which was surreal, since I used to follow his antics growing up. Apparently some gamers' problem with him was ultimately that they disagreed on what should be censored.

BravestOfTheLamps fucked around with this message at 15:47 on Mar 13, 2015

Sephiroth_IRA
Mar 31, 2010
It's been a long time so I'm probably misremembering but I think Jack just wanted to keep violent games out of the hands of minors which doesn't sound so terrible but he was always going on the news after every school shooting to blame it all on video games.

Junkfist
Oct 7, 2004

FRIEND?
Personally, I credit Anita Sarkeesian's ballooning weight and constant visible discomfort as Jack Thompson attempting to claw his way out of her chest.

Sephiroth_IRA
Mar 31, 2010

Junkfist posted:

Personally, I credit Anita Sarkeesian's ballooning weight and constant visible discomfort as Jack Thompson attempting to claw his way out of her chest.

Next year's XOXO Fesitval:

Anita: "So next I would like to bring up... oh... ughhhhhh I don't feel very well."
*Jack Thompson's head busts out of Anita's stomach*
Jack: "I'M BACK!"

A few minorities are trampled to death as thousands of white people storm out of the building.

Sephiroth_IRA fucked around with this message at 18:24 on Mar 13, 2015

A Gnarlacious Bro
Apr 25, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Hbomberguy posted:

If you could explain what was 'beep-boop' about it without simply saying 'it's so arrogant to give your honest impression of what doing creative things for a living is like!' maybe the conversation would be more productive for both of us? I'm not saying this to be insulting. If I had to make a video to a deadline every week to live, I know they'd all be garbage and I'd get sick of doing them, but that might just be me.

'You're so beep-boop' might sound like a really good summation of me in your head, but gives me nothing substantive to go on. If the point of discussion is to communicate, it fails at the first hurdle. Again, this isn't me trying to hurt your feelings, or being arrogant. What is mechanistic (which I assume is your criticism) about what I've written? I am intensely autocritical - just give me something substantive to consider. Think: You could, right now, force my posting to improve, and it'd be all thanks to you. That sounds great, doesn't it?

I'm working on a new Sarkeesian Effect video, but I like to take my time on these things because, like I've been saying, I like waiting until I have something good.

She's calling you autistic, which is hosed up.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Hbomberguy posted:

You know what? You're right. I'm being a petty rear end in a top hat and wasting people's time. I really am sorry. I'll do better in future.

By way of an apology, if any of you have anything in particular you want to see in the next Sarkeesian Effect video, let me know.

Track his pocket square evolution to see if it correlates with the state of his facial hair.

He looks a lot closer to a regular out-and-proud dude without the beard. Let's hope he learns to accept himself for who he is soon.

Compendium
Jun 18, 2013

M-E-J-E-D
I have developed the ability to glaze over Hbomb posts now, it's been quite useful.

Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007

A Gnarlacious Bro posted:

She's calling you autistic, which is hosed up.

If true.

BobbyK
Jun 4, 2008

by Cyrano4747

I'm gonna say it is.

Sephiroth_IRA
Mar 31, 2010
Sometimes I wish I was on the spectrum but that's probably just Hollywood talking to me.

Baka-nin
Jan 25, 2015

Sephiroth_IRA posted:

It's been a long time so I'm probably misremembering but I think Jack just wanted to keep violent games out of the hands of minors which doesn't sound so terrible but he was always going on the news after every school shooting to blame it all on video games.

Er sort of, protecting children specifically his own son from corrupting imagery was his major influence, well that and he believes God chose to lead a new crusade. However judging by his actions regarding games and before that rap songs he seems to have interpreted `this thing exists and can be legally sold` as the same as giving violent and sexual games directly to children. The Hot Coffee controversy that could've destroyed Rockstar games was because he argued the existence of a sex mini game* in a video game rated for adults was exposing children to pornography.

He also publicly declared his intentions to get whichever company or artist he was fighting with at the time shut down, so while he might not have wanted to destroy all video games he certainly wanted to cause a lot a damage to the industry.

*Which couldn't even be accessed within the game without playing around with the code.

DStecks
Feb 6, 2012

I'm literally autistic and if you want to call people autistic for acting autistic I could not give less of a gently caress

A Gnarlacious Bro
Apr 25, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
I'm glad I have your permission.

DStecks
Feb 6, 2012

you're welcome

Terrible Opinions
Oct 18, 2013



If saying "you are bad at reading social queues that normal people pick up on" is bad and ableist then this thread has no purpose. In fact no mock threads should be allowed period.

KKall
Oct 15, 2012

THESE MEN ARE PAWNS

Rebochan
Feb 2, 2006

Take my evolution

This is some of our best work.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

KKall posted:

THESE MEN ARE PAWNS

I can't believe these two men may control the fate of the middle east.

DEEP STATE PLOT
Aug 13, 2008

Yes...Ha ha ha...YES!



Sephiroth_IRA posted:

It's been a long time so I'm probably misremembering but I think Jack just wanted to keep violent games out of the hands of minors which doesn't sound so terrible but he was always going on the news after every school shooting to blame it all on video games.

Jack Thompson wanted a lot more than just keeping games out of kids' hands. He is a loving lunatic who would do poo poo like write letters to the makers of Grand Theft Auto asking them how they felt about being the people who would destroy humanity and other such nonsense. He also lost his license by being a complete cock in court, and before then would randomly just insult people he disagreed with.

So really, a perfect fit for gamergaters to welcome into their ranks if you think about it.

e: oh eh also was responsible for one of the few times Penny Arcade ever did anything worthwhile, when he said he'd donate 10k dollars to a charity of choice if a game developer made a game where you killed the people who made it. Several did so and he never donated, so Penny Arcade did and labeled the donation as something like 'because Jack Thompson won't', and he threatened legal action against PA for it. Seriously, just go dig through the man's history and everything he said and did when he still had the power and platform to do so, it's complete insanity.

DEEP STATE PLOT fucked around with this message at 18:51 on Mar 13, 2015

Junkfist
Oct 7, 2004

FRIEND?

Cubey posted:

Jack Thompson wanted a lot more than just keeping games out of kids' hands. He is a loving lunatic who would do poo poo like write letters to the makers of Grand Theft Auto asking them how they felt about being the people who would destroy humanity and other such nonsense. He also lost his license by being a complete cock in court, and before then would randomly just insult people he disagreed with.

So really, a perfect fit for gamergaters to welcome into their ranks if you think about it.

e: oh eh also was responsible for one of the few times Penny Arcade ever did anything worthwhile, when he said he'd donate 10k dollars to a charity of choice if a game developer made a game where you killed the people who made it. Several did so and he never donated, so Penny Arcade did and labeled the donation as something like 'because Jack Thompson won't', and he threatened legal action against PA for it. Seriously, just go dig through the man's history and everything he said and did when he still had the power and platform to do so, it's complete insanity.

Videogames are responsible for all toxic masculinity and shooting sprees in the western world and the allies bombed feminism out of Japan.

BravestOfTheLamps
Oct 12, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Lipstick Apathy
Jack Thompson campaigned against rap music.

KayTee
May 5, 2012

Whachoodoin?

Cubey posted:

e: oh eh also was responsible for one of the few times Penny Arcade ever did anything worthwhile, when he said he'd donate 10k dollars to a charity of choice if a game developer made a game where you killed the people who made it. Several did so and he never donated, so Penny Arcade did and labeled the donation as something like 'because Jack Thompson won't', and he threatened legal action against PA for it. Seriously, just go dig through the man's history and everything he said and did when he still had the power and platform to do so, it's complete insanity.

I've just read up on this and it has made my day. I done a proper lol.

http://arstechnica.com/uncategorized/2005/10/5458-2/

quote:

[Thompson] issued a "Modest Proposal" that offered a US$10,000 reward to anyone who would create a video game featuring Osaki Kim, a father whose son was beaten to death with a baseball bat by a 14-year-old gamer. [...]

What Jack did not expect was that the enterprising PC gaming mod community would turn around and make this mod a reality. Jack then reneged on his promise of a US$10,000 donation to the charity of the modder's choice, saying that his original bounty had been "satire", and therefore not a legitimate promise.

This is where Penny Arcade, the popular video game-themed online comic strip, entered the story. One of the co-creators of the strip, Mike "Gabe" Krahulik, emailed Jack Thompson and informed him that he thought his proposed US$10,000 charitable donation was pretty small in light of Penny Arcade's more than half a million dollars, raised as part of their "Child's Play" charity event. Unfortunately for Gabe, his email contained his phone number as part of the signature, and Jack took advantage of this to phone him directly. The phone call included a threat of a lawsuit if Gabe emailed him again. In response, Gabe sent a check to the Entertainment Software Association (ESA) in the amount of US$10,000 with the note "For Jack Thompson Because Jack Thompson Won't" on the bottom.

That's some backhanded, passive-aggressive poo poo there, but gently caress me that is satisfying!

Lichtenstein
May 31, 2012

It'll make sense, eventually.
Hey Kyle,

I just wanted to say I really appreciate the effort you put in spicing up the production values of your reviews. It's just cool to see your output always evolving for the better both in terms of content (maturing from the early days of trying to fit with the TGWTG mold) and that of visual quality.

Sephiroth_IRA
Mar 31, 2010

Cubey posted:

Jack Thompson wanted a lot more than just keeping games out of kids' hands. He is a loving lunatic who would do poo poo like write letters to the makers of Grand Theft Auto asking them how they felt about being the people who would destroy humanity and other such nonsense. He also lost his license by being a complete cock in court, and before then would randomly just insult people he disagreed with.

So really, a perfect fit for gamergaters to welcome into their ranks if you think about it.

e: oh eh also was responsible for one of the few times Penny Arcade ever did anything worthwhile, when he said he'd donate 10k dollars to a charity of choice if a game developer made a game where you killed the people who made it. Several did so and he never donated, so Penny Arcade did and labeled the donation as something like 'because Jack Thompson won't', and he threatened legal action against PA for it. Seriously, just go dig through the man's history and everything he said and did when he still had the power and platform to do so, it's complete insanity.

Ah OK.

I never really enjoyed their comic but why are people so hard on Penny Arcade? Haven't they raised a ton of money for charity and stuff?

Miss Wallace
Feb 24, 2013

The nights will never be the same. ARARARAR!
Like I've got no opinion on what you guys are arguing about most of the time, but I really just feel like Jay O is being unnecessarily aggressive a lot.

EDIT: Sorry if I'm late to the game. Don't mean to draw things out.

dijon du jour
Mar 27, 2013

I'm shy
Hey look Allison, Phelan, and Brad round up the gang again for Puss 'n' Boots aka A Stalking Cat!? in which Ash wishes to contact her agent.

Josef K. Sourdust
Jul 16, 2014

"To be quite frank, Platinum sucks at making games. Vanquish was terrible and Metal Gear Rising: Revengance was so boring it put me to sleep."

BravestOfTheLamps posted:

Jack Thompson campaigned against rap music.

So, not all bad then?

DEEP STATE PLOT
Aug 13, 2008

Yes...Ha ha ha...YES!



Sephiroth_IRA posted:

I never really enjoyed their comic but why are people so hard on Penny Arcade? Haven't they raised a ton of money for charity and stuff?

One of the dudes behind it has a reputation as being kind of a dickbag, and the community kinda sucks. That said, I don't really hate PA, I just find the comic itself awful more than anything. It also kinda laid the foundation for 'comic based around guys playing video games' that gave us poo poo like CAD, as it was the first of its kind.

Rebochan
Feb 2, 2006

Take my evolution

Josef K. Sourdust posted:

So, not all bad then?

More specifically, he's the got that got 2 Live Crew arrested in Florida by getting a judge to declare "Nasty As They Wannabe" obscene.

And apparently used to portray himself as Batman while doing it.

quote:

He wears a Batman watch. He drinks from a Batman mug. A large poster of the Caped Crusader is taped to his refrigerator door.

"Batman is just a metaphor I use to explain why what I've done has been received so well by some people," says Jack Thompson, the real-life crusading attorney who instigated the campaign that resulted in rap group 2 Live Crew's "As Nasty as They Wanna Be" album being declared obscene by a federal judge. (See related article, Page 4.)

"For me," says Thompson, standing in the kitchen of his modest suburban home here, "the appeal of the Batman lies in the fact that he was supposed to be a private citizen who was able to provide assistance to his government, a lone activist who helped authorities do a job that they seemed unable to accomplish on their own.

"To me, Luther Campbell isn't Luke Skyywalker (a stage name he adopted but has been enjoined from using by Lucasfilm), he's the Joker," Thompson says. "He's peddling obscenity to children and that is why I have to play Batman here--to assist, to cajole and to sometimes embarrass government into doing its job."

Models himself after fictional characters in pop culture to portray himself a crusader? Yea, no wonder Gamergate loves this guy!

Hbomberguy
Jul 4, 2009

[culla=big red]TufFEE did nO THINg W̡RA̸NG[/read]


Jack Thompson is redeemable. We need him to fight a far greater foe.

Let me tell you...about video game feminism.

DEEP STATE PLOT
Aug 13, 2008

Yes...Ha ha ha...YES!



Rebochan posted:

More specifically, he's the got that got 2 Live Crew arrested in Florida by getting a judge to declare "Nasty As They Wannabe" obscene.

And apparently used to portray himself as Batman while doing it.


Models himself after fictional characters in pop culture to portray himself a crusader? Yea, no wonder Gamergate loves this guy!

Well I hadn't heard of this part before :laffo:

Junkfist
Oct 7, 2004

FRIEND?
I guess that makes him more of a Brianna Wu then.

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Sephiroth_IRA
Mar 31, 2010
The funny thing about Batman is that Gotham still sucks after decades of trickle up rear end kickings.

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