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chuggo is BACK posted:This tale has been trotted out before but as a City fan having seen us lose away at Wycombe on a rainy Tuesday night, lose at home to Bury, walked out of Wembley 0-2 to Gillingham (I got back in), and comparing that to where we are now, I'm not just happy I'm ecstatic. We've won every domestic trophy on offer in the last four years, we're second and on Wednesday I get to take my two sons and two cousins to their first CL game in Barcelona, not expecting to win but just to enjoy the party. it's beautiful
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I watch and follow so much of it that over the years the clubs just sort of picked me for a variety of reasons; TSV 1860 Munich has been my families club for generations. Aston Villa for the 82' Euro Cup on PBS . Torino FC because of my grandfathers stories about "Grande Torino" and then being at the 92' UEFA Cup semi win aginst Real Madrid at the Delle Alpi. Exeter City FC for almost giving me a trial in 87' and now latest is the Union were my son plays on their U14 side.
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I heavily and actively support Bayern, Liverpool, AC Milan, Barcelona, Schalke 04, United - both Newcastle and Manchester, Real Madrid, Juve and as of late, PSG. I also like Grasshoppers...and by "Grasshoppers", I mean the cocktail with Crème de menthe. I forgot to mention Galatasaray, Inter, Werder Bremen, Celtic, PSV, Dynamo Kiev, Besikta, Liga de Quito, Ajax and Rangers. And "support" may be the wrong word as I don't give them any of my money. I'm actually more "fanatical" about them.
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chuggo is BACK posted:I heavily and actively support Bayern, Liverpool, AC Milan, Barcelona, Schalke 04, United - both Newcastle and Manchester, Real Madrid, Juve and as of late, PSG. I also like Grasshoppers...and by "Grasshoppers", I mean the cocktail with Crème de menthe. Taters
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Shrapnig posted:Taters Chelsea always  This times a billion. They will always be Luke Skywalker against Vader (Liverpool), The Emperor (Arsenal), and the Death Star (Man effing U).
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Shrapnig posted:Man Effing U is where Robbie Rogers went to college. lol
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ephex posted:lol Okay I will list the teams I like and unashamedly list my reasons: Swansea - attractive football, healthy culture, great (coach)ing, Welsh, Ki Sung Yong Chelsea - I like their style of football the best, Didier Drogba, posh image, I like the color blue Tottenham - Gareth Bale, Gareth Bale, Gareth Bale Liverpool - I don't like their style of football currently but there's Gerrard, history, tradition, classy image rather than posh, the Beatles are from Liverpool Yes I sound fatuous but I'm American what can you do, I can't visit each stadium or sow any roots there. I want to say Liverpool is my pick because too many American Chelsea supporters, Tottenham can be really lacking sometimes and frustrating to watch, Swansea doesn't have anything really tying me down. I don't know, Liverpool also just strikes me as the most 'American' of Premier League clubs, even disregarding the fact that they were bought by the owner of the Red Sox. Red Sox-owned is -1 for me anyways since I'm a Mets fan. Then again I went to school in New England so I'll throw back +.5
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After feeling empty and unsatisfied supporting Arsenal for years, I made the switch to Chelsea in 2011. For some they gravitate to the winners, and that can and should be said of Chelsea, the Cities..hell, anyone in the top 5, but I also feel a deeper connection than that to them, it's like I had a secret desire I had been denying for years. That being said, one of my maxims to live by is always support your local first, be it the pub, market or football team.
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chuggo is BACK posted:After feeling empty and unsatisfied supporting Arsenal for years, I made the switch to Chelsea in 2011. For some they gravitate to the winners, and that can and should be said of Chelsea, the Cities..hell, anyone in the top 5, but I also feel a deeper connection than that to them, it's like I had a secret desire I had been denying for years. So this is why EC10 stopped posting.
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ephex posted:Jesus Christ chuggo what have you unearthed no im saying Manchester United's and Arsenals supposedly great academies do exactly what Chelsea's does yet Chelsea's academy is getting bashed. Manchester United you can't fault them because all the best players from Manchester play in City and are city supporters, seeing how no one from manchester actually supports United. Wilshere will not get an England call up. Ever. Keiran Gibbs might just because left back is so hard to fill and he is a good player. However you bring up that, Chelsea's supposed 'bullshit' academy has also produced the future England starting centerback Michael Mancienne, not to mention Carlton Cole. Get out of here with this Chelsea bashing. These three clubs academies are run exactly the same.
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chuggo is BACK posted:I heavily and actively support Bayern, Liverpool, AC Milan, Barcelona, Schalke 04, United - both Newcastle and Manchester, Real Madrid, Juve and as of late, PSG. I also like Grasshoppers...and by "Grasshoppers", I mean the cocktail with Crème de menthe. So he is fanatical about Galatasaray and Besikta(s) Barcelona and Real Madrid PSV and Ajax Inter and AC Milan Celtic and Rangers ephex posted:Jesus Christ chuggo what have you unearthed
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chuggo is BACK posted:I heavily and actively support Bayern, Liverpool, AC Milan, Barcelona, Schalke 04, United - both Newcastle and Manchester, Real Madrid, Juve and as of late, PSG. I also like Grasshoppers...and by "Grasshoppers", I mean the cocktail with Crème de menthe. He forgot to mention Legia
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Blue Star Error posted:He forgot to mention Legia hahaha drat
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ephex posted:Jesus Christ chuggo what have you unearthed I think Columbus discovered it first, tbh
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Blue Star Error posted:He forgot to mention Legia some top top posting, this
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Blue Star Error posted:He forgot to mention Legia FullLeatherJacket posted:I think Columbus discovered it first, tbh
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Hello, everyone. It's BEND IT 7 here... My username BEND IT 7 is a tribute to David Beckham, "BEND IT" after his signature shot and "7" after his old number. I am a new member from the U.S.A. I am a fan of the U.S.A. national team and FC Barcelona. I am a soccer player myself. My favorite positions are stopper and midfielder, although I can serve as a forward or a defender if the need exists. I love to play the sport almost more than I like doing anything else, but I am a new fan to the professional sport and am trying to learn everything at once (which is very confusing but I am slowly learning). I am a fan of Beckham, obviously (thus my username and the pictures of him). I think that Ronaldinho's famous bicycle kick is one of the greatest individual plays in the history of the sport, although obviously Beckham's crosses and long shots look more like plays that a player of my favorite positions would make. I love to listen to rock music...mostly the classic stuff. To those of you British fans, the four guys with mop tops that you sent over here in 1964 made some of my very favorite music. I also am a big fan of bands such as Aerosmith, Foreigner, Def Leppard, the Eagles, the Rolling Stones, the Steve Miller Band, and so on. Please comment on anything I have written about so I can learn a bit about my fellow fans on this site. Thanks! -BEND IT 7 
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I made a regression equation using shots on goal, foul differential (fouls suffered - fouls committed so a positive number is good), and corner kicks as independent variable and points as the dependent variable. I would have used shots on goal differential and corner kick differential, but MLS doesn't provide opponents' shots on target and opponents' corner kicks easily. What surprised me was that there was a slight negative correlation between corner kicks and points, although it was pretty close to 0. The equation was: Points = 0.4058*shots on goal + 0.07617*(fouls suffered - fouls committed) - 0.007080 * corner kicks - 17.6645 The coefficient for corner kicks was so low that the difference between the most and fewest corner kicks, 91, would expect to affect points by 0.644. The regression equation for corner kicks (one independent variable) and goals scored (one dependent variable) is: Goals = 0.1827*Corner kicks + 18.0880 The correlation was 0.4237. Since corner kicks are positively correlated with goals scored but slightly negatively correlated with points, I would expect corner kicks to be positively correlated with goals allowed (meaning that taking more corner kicks goes with allowing more goals). That wasn't the case. The correlation was -0.0967. This makes me wonder if clubs with more corner kicks do a worse job at translating their goal differential into as many points as possible. It make me calculate the correlation between corner kicks and points without the other two original independent variables. This correlation was 0.3007. Therefore the regression line with three independent variables made the relationship between corner kicks and points look different than it actually is (or I made a mistake).
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I recently worked up a statistical ranking system for club team across Europe, found here, and decided to apply that system to the 32 teams in the World Cup. The ranking system looks at statistics across three categories that I found most correlated to winning. Additionally, in this edition of the rankings, I was able to incorporate the expected goals model from Colin Trainor’s work. I wanted to incorporate these statistics because I wanted to make sure that shot locations were taken into account. For example, the USA gave up the most shots in the group stage but they were all low efficiency shots, while Spain gave up a small number of shots but with a much higher expected goal level. By incorporating the expected goal value of each shot, it allows to better analyze both offensive and defensive performances. The stats used for these rankings are:
Like the rankings for the club teams, all scores are a comparison score with the other teams in the WC. Each category is compared to the other 31 teams, weighted, and put into an overall score for each category, and then a final overall score. These scores allow us to see who performed best in each of the three categories of the game, as well as who was the most consistent in all three. As with the club score, the limitations of this system is that it does not take into account different game states and scorelines, or the quality of opposition. Here are the top statistical performers of the World Cup Group Stage.     Here are the overall team scores for each team  As always, I wanted to make sure that this ranking system had a strong correlation to winning. Below I have included a linear regression for my total team scores and points earned in the group stage. A respectable R-squared value of .72 will do. 
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Ha, can you believe this 11 yr old idiot likes playing soccer and likes watching a successful soccer team. What a loving moron, keep this good poo poo coming Vyelkin.
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vyelkin posted:I made a regression equation using shots on goal, foul differential (fouls suffered - fouls committed so a positive number is good), and corner kicks as independent variable and points as the dependent variable. I would have used shots on goal differential and corner kick differential, but MLS doesn't provide opponents' shots on target and opponents' corner kicks easily. What surprised me was that there was a slight negative correlation between corner kicks and points, although it was pretty close to 0. The equation was: I can't trust these numbers without some uncertainty values.
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Azteca Diary, August 12, 2009 Woke up around 7:30 Mexico time. Turned on ESPN and Fox Sports and three different local stations one of which had a big clock counting down to 3pm. Went outside the hotel around 9 to show the colors. Saw two americans in the lobby nodded gave the thumbs up. Walking outside, I thought the whole world was looking at me. I lit a cigarette on the sidewalk, and a cabbie reading my shirt, said "hey O'Brien need a taxi?" I smiled, said no, we talked soccer, Mexicans and americans congregated. Ole Ole was good but pricey, I went to check out the 10am buffet at 9:15, and it was already open. Open bar, met a lot of Californians and a lot of southerners, Georgia Texas NC etc. One guy had a "Mississippi state flag" which grated on my liberal nerves, but I said nothing. A documentary was being filmed on Americans at Azteca, so they got footage of us getting on the (4) buses. We had police escort which was cool, sorta felt like that Nike or Gatorade commercial. We probably averaged 20 miles an hour in heavy traffic. Mexican Flag vendors indicated we were were in Azteca's neighborhood. The windows were smartly blacked out because guys in our bus were trying to give the finger right back to Mexicans who, I think, took us to be the US team. Don't know why, no markings whatsoever on the outside. Police escort the only indication we were the enemy. Azteca's parking lot is just like RFK or Riverfront or etc (if you put them on a plateau in the middle of the rocky mountains). The Ole tour of 200 or so walked in as a group. Mexicans were taking pictures, so I made the peace sign, with a zero after it. Then they indicated 5-0 back but more often the finger. Whistling apparently means something derogatory too. To be continued. Talked to Junior, Donovan, Davies, and Chernudolo at the airport after. We were in the upper deck corner, which is perfect for me since I like to see both the width and depth of the whole field at once. Sam's Army had taken the subway and were already seated in the section to the left as you view the field, the other section's first few rows were also seated, so I grabbed the first aisle seat I could find about twenty rows up. Security Police had escorted us through the parking lot to the stadium where Riot Police with shields took over. This all felt unnecessary until we were in our seats. The fence on my left was lined with police with shields. There was no fence on my right just a line of police with shields. Looking up there were still another 20-25 rows above me. To the left, the fence made a jog so I was a long ways from missles coming from above in that direction.....and Sam's Army was a closer and unmissable target for them anyway. To my right was a different story, I looked up made eye contact with some Mexicans frantically yelling "f you" and giving me the finger. I gave them a long peace sign..........then slowly raised a zero. 5-0 was flashed back yadda yadda FU FU FU!!!!! I turned back to the field to soak in the atmosphere........Azteca......is gigantic and ........incoming! Splash! splash! behind me, from the right. Big beer cup wizzes over my head and blasts Sam's Army, everyone turns around FU FU FU!!!!!!. Funny things: Mexican riot police are simply there to watch the game, hold their shields, and seperate the fans. No beer chuckers are thrown out. But.....in order for Mexicans to lob a cup of beer down at us, they have to underhand it and then let gravity take over. So, baseball style, we start trying to catch the slow moving, almost full beers. Sam's Army drinks a few.......from the left, a little below my level, a battery or some small heavy object lasers just over the fence into Sam's Army . I don't see any blood, but it feels serious, if sporadic. Its an hour until game time. Warm ups are loud. Howard and Guzan first out. "USA USA USA" quickly drowned out by noise makers and "Mehico Mehico". They are determined that no American chant will be heard, the moment we make noise, they make more noise easily, almost pointless for us, but at least the Mexican fans know we're here. The line-ups are announced and I have visions of Gelsenkirchen when I heard Beasley and Lewis were our left side v Czech Rep.. Deep despair at Clark, Boca, and Ching and the money I've spent to not see Jozy and Benny......but Bob knows best, so I turn it around, and decide that Boca will probably score off a corner. USA! USA! USA!The US national anthem is the loudest sound I may have ever heard, my ears hurt....and the only time I heard any music was "Oh say does that star-spangled banner". The low "O" sound is the only american noise that seems to have resonance against the Mexicans. "Goooooooch" works very well. We score! MFing Pandemonium!!!!!!!!! I tumble down the aisle 4 or 5 steps trying to double high five the Sam's army guy coming up the aisle. Amazingly, I'm unhurt and haven't injured or even touched anyone in my fall. (and no bruises this morning?) Cups from above, foam and liquid from the sides, small danerous sh!te from below. They score, I'm incensed. A clear foul on Donovan breaking into acres of space right through Mexico's middle, no call????? 10 seconds later counter-attack goal Mexico.....BS, almost tragic change of fortune. no call? Half-time is really wonderful. The amenties area below our seats, outside with the ramps, is for our two sections only, but there are hundreds of green shirts in the USA sections, so as everyone takes a leak, there is much posing for souvenier pictures. A Mexican guy is dressed and looks almost exactly like Ochoa the keeper. I'm a popular big Gringo manaquin (sic). My peace sign and a zero, in every shot. (my new gang sign I'm proud that the American crowd is mixed. 50% are under 35 years old white former player. 10% white female with their boyfriend. 20% Mexican American, some living/working in Mexico City (dressed in black, smelling of perfume and sporting black sunglasses but chanting USA USA and using previously unknown hand gestures to rile the green shirts, nice funny unexpected allies. 10% older white guys a few with wives or sons. 10% asian and african american. 49% are binge drinking.The stars and bars of Mississippi really grated on me at half time. I wondered as I watched him pose for pictures: Does he know this flag's history in soccer? Has he seen the guys who wave it in Germany Sweden Russia and Italy? France? Did FIFA notice? Do they care? Second half growing confidence of a draw. Anxious about the officiating, fearing penalties, red, or free kicks. Watching the ball and Dempsey primarily. On defense, he is channeling everything inside to Bradley and Clark. He is positioned very wide to deny the pass to Boca's guy. On quick transitions where Howard looks to spring a break, Deuce either is never an option or he doesn't want to encourage a long throw, or he is unwilling to make a long run (altitude and experience)?), because he isn't looking back to receive the ball. Once the ball was in Howard's grasp Deuce usually trotted to a little beyond midfield to watch the coming Howard punt. Howard's one or two throws to Boca put Clint in difficult positions facing the wrong way squeezed by multiple mexicans against the sideline. Mexico scores, the tour guys at Ole Ole say we are leaving 5 minutes early. I'm a bit mad, but I have a 9:30 flight and luggage at the hotel, and am beginning to think I may miss the flight with Mexican victory traffic jams. When I get to the ramps, I look behind me and see that only two or three americans are coming along. I think about going back, or waiting for reinforcements, but we were toast, and I had had the experience. I kept walking alone through long lines of riot police, until I made the outside level and merged with green shirts getting a jump on traffic. "Good game I said, "I thought the ref was bad" they said "No" I said "OK" and rolled my eyes and said "beat Costa Rica". Got to the bus as the game ended, imagined the pelting Sam's Army was getting. Mexican american firefighter from Orange County, with his dad, arrived back at the bus first, and he went in search of beers for the ride home. He found little old ladies with ice ice cold Modelli (?) Atlanta banker (big guy) arrived last, telling that he had been spit on, and that at least one battery had found an American jaw/cheek apparently very badly, but he was serene. He gave the firefighter 300 pesos to negotiate for plenty more beers, nice gesture. We drank outside in the shade of the bus, waiting until all 4 buses were ready to roll. Mexicans filed past pretty quietly, some "fu, fu's" but many more handshakes and "good game". Lesson for me: We do things in crowds, that we would be ashamed to do one on one. The buses got rolling around 5:45 with me doing calculations in my head regarding the airport. Turns out the trip back is high speed, taking only around twenty minutes. I'm golden. Get my briefcase from the concierge, and he had the nice taxi/limo ready since I told him I'd be in a hurry. (Good way to get limo service for the price of a taxi is to tell the concierge when you're leaving for the airport, he'll have a long list of buddies with nice rides happy to get a guarenteed airport fare that he can schedule.....yesterday I just got a toyota camry but that's a limo in Mexico City. Also, if you insist on a smoking room at the hotel they often have to move you to a nice bigger room with a balcony facing the nice way at no extra cost. The "limo" driver is excited, but mostly seems relived mexico won. Get to the airport, find my gate 7:30 two hours early.The Mexican next to me after I sit down with a sandwich at the gate, is a contractor living and working in LA. we talk soccer and shop/work in LA for 10 minutes and he then he asks if I saw Boca and Dempsey when I went to get something to eat? Oh yeah, the players are in the international terminal......duh, leaving for europe. I finish my dinner and get up to look around. The first sit down restaurant I get to I see Michael Bradley walking out looking at his phone and my #5 shirt. I have a sport jacket on, so he doesn't know the back says O'Brien and I think later......was he #5 in 2005 for the u-20s? Anyway Jr has just stepped away from a table with Davies facing me and donovan to the right and Dolo to the left. I have to say something. Davies watches me approach (a little afraid? I'm a big guy maybe I'm upset at the loss?) Landon looks up fork in hand, Dolo turns to face me following Davies look. 10 feet away, I point at Davies and say "great goal". Stupidly, I forget to compliment Donovan's gorgeous assist that made it. Still approaching I say "I just wanted to say I appreciate you guys leaving your hearts out there" (maybe I said "on the field") for a split second I feel a little silly: old guy hero-worshipping kids. Davies still looks blank, good poker face. Landon saves me. "Thanks, and thank you for coming down." Dolo gives me a huge grin that I think says "Azteca was Awesome wasn't it?" I turn, not wanting to bother them anymore, perhaps unexpectedly, because Bradley is close behind, we barely miss. 20 feet away I think: offer to buy their dinner? while making a crack about Beckham? Track down Deuce....check London flights? Nah I'm done. But I'm not......duh, Landon is on my LA flight. and Davies, Jr, and Dolo are going to Frankfurt from the next gate down. Some Mexican fans ask for pictures with Davies when they're done with dinner. Bradley is wearing shorts and no socks, really thick legs, really strong, has a badass don't mess with me glare too. No one asks him for anything, that I see. Frankfurt flight leaves. LA is 1 hr late. Donovan is nowhere to be seen, until we finally board. Donovan is first class, so by the time I board he is asleep or pretending to be. Hat over his eyes, looking really small next to the fat Hasidic guy with the window seat. Arriving in LA, we have to take a bus to the terminal, Donovan is sitting, texting or twittering or checking messages. We get to customs and the US citizens line snakes back and forth so Landon and I face each other 3 or 4 times avoiding eye contact. But the guy behind Landon in the US citizens line is wearing a green mexico jersey! I really want to mock him, but I decide no scene, just a real hard stare that he mostly avoids. Just before Landon goes to the customs window, a woman in the snake coil behind me sees my shirt and my flag bandana and asks if I've been to the game? and I said yes and asked if she watched it? yes she saw it on TV. I say loud enough for Donovan to hear, "The guy in the grey hat played in it." She is small and can't see Landon at first.......finally she locates him and seems unimpressed, "is he any good?" he is at the window and will be gone in second. I can't resist. Not shouting but loud, so everyone can hear, leaving no room for argument: "He is our best player........EVER".
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Seltzer posted:Ha, can you believe this 11 yr old idiot likes playing soccer and likes watching a successful soccer team. What a loving moron, keep this good poo poo coming Vyelkin. 11 year old Beatles fan.
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NEED TOILET PAPER posted:idgi someone please explain it's a reference to yours truly, i apparently support every successful team ever and Legia
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