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Discendo Vox posted:Crossposting from the Funny Panels derail: Already did earlier today after reading that post, here you go! http://www.tencentticker.com/projectrooftop/2012/01/04/pr-approved-cliff-chiangs-justice-league-of-japan/
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I could write pages about how on point that Wonder Woman design is for the concept of Fundamental Anime Justice League.
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Mar 15, 2015 03:54
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Mr. Maltose posted:I could write pages about how on point that Wonder Woman design is for the concept of Fundamental Anime Justice League. I wouldn't mind reading a bit, since it's the one there I don't really "get". Superman's one didn't make sense til the Man of Steel thing was pointed out for me.
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Mar 15, 2015 03:59
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JacquelineDempsey posted:Already did earlier today after reading that post, here you go! That Batman is sick.
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Mar 15, 2015 04:13
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Gatchaman is such an obvious place to take the concept for the Bat-family. Hell, didn't they basically use that design for Batman Inc?
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Mar 15, 2015 04:36
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Doctor Spaceman posted:I wouldn't mind reading a bit, since it's the one there I don't really "get". To go over it briefly, Wonder Woman's design and the design of the ship in the background pull extremely hard from Leiji Matsumoto, specifically Space Pirate Captain Harlock (The cape, the dueling scar you can see in the closeup of the face, etc.) Matsumoto's work has a large cast of extremely competent and powerful female characters, and a repeated motif of a society of women apart from but influencing Earth. He also emphasizes themes of freedom and personal responsibility outside societal demands, where characters willfully exist beyond the pale of law and custom in order to protect and promote what they believe in. They're outlaws by choice, not circumstance, because they wish to show that there is a better way of living. Harlock has stood against even the Gods themselves, to the point of having Odin reverse time itself to kill his father because Harlock simply could not be confronted directly. Wonder Woman is a great fit for it more thematically then designwise, but the idea of a Wonder Woman incorporating things like Queen Millennia and Galaxy Express 999 is such a great idea.
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Mar 15, 2015 04:41
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Lurdiak posted:That Batman is sick. That's basically how he looked in one of the segments of Anime Mini-Stories About Christopher Nolan Batman Movie.
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Mar 15, 2015 05:24
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Breaking: Erik Larsen is a stupid moron with an ugly butt. https://twitter.com/ErikJLarsen/status/576869173214621696
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Mar 15, 2015 18:26
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"I'm tired of the big two placating a vocal minority at the expense of the rest of the paying audience by making more practical women outfits" What I wonder how Savage Dragon sells compared to these series that are just pandering to a vocal minority? Senor Candle fucked around with this message at 18:40 on Mar 15, 2015 |
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Mar 15, 2015 18:35
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Thank god we have the creator of Savage Dragon to tell us what's appropriate treatment for women in comics.
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Mar 15, 2015 18:41
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Oh look it is Erik Larsen being massively out of touch and making himself look like an rear end again 
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Mar 15, 2015 19:36
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I love that he insults a guy who disagrees by calling him "Matt Murdock." Like ... you're not only blind but all your girlfriends are dead and crazy? His arguments are even less detailed than the people countering him but he accuses them of just saying "nuh-uh" as if he isn't doing the same. I enjoyed that link and string of tweets. Also, Ms Marvel's costume is really fitting for the character's age and culture, and looks good too.  (I know no one here's arguing, but still.)
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Mar 15, 2015 19:51
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laz0rbeak posted:Breaking: Erik Larsen is a stupid moron with an ugly butt. Haha. That is some straight-up nonsense from that guy. I mean, opinions and whatnot, but it's a fantastic piece of design. It's simple, has clean lines, and the solid blocks of color grab the eye.  Also, calling what is essentially a dress and leggings ugly, cumbersome, and not flattering is just silly. I'm not saying Auntie's Modest Swimwear needs to corner the market on superhero outfits, but it absolutely works for the new Ms. Marvel. 
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Mar 15, 2015 20:35
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I wonder what all around lovely artist and constant Zenoscope artist J Scott Campbell thinks of Wonder Woman's new costume. "J Scott Campbell" posted:I rarely comment about comic book industry matters on my personal FB page, but I gotta say, shoulder pads, especially big bulky metal ones NEVER look good on women. Everything about them is unfeminine and lacks style. No grace to this approach at all.
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Mar 15, 2015 20:42
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I wasn't sure if this was better suited to the good/bad art thread or this one. oh lordy.
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Mar 15, 2015 21:00
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The push back is all so obviously wrapped up in the fear that comics are leaving the core audience behind and taking away their special secret exclusionary club. I've only really liked Ms Marvel, Captain Marvel and Batgirl's new costumes the rest are all a solid meh but I'm not blaming the oh so evil conspiracy to enlarge the audience of a medium I love for taking away my precious nipple only armor.
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Mar 15, 2015 21:45
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Does Erik Larsen yell at his wife "YOU CAN'T LOVE WHAT I LOVE"
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Mar 15, 2015 22:10
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a kitten posted:I wasn't sure if this was better suited to the good/bad art thread or this one. I'm glad Red Monika is still getting work. Edit: J. Scott Campbell's opinion invalid for implicitly dissing the 80s. McSpanky fucked around with this message at 22:13 on Mar 15, 2015 |
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Mar 15, 2015 22:11
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There is something coming from older/less enlightened artists that always jump to dumb taliban/asexuality arguments, as if people really wanted to make characters entirely sexless. I mean, Spider-Woman is not a painted naked woman anymore but is anyone going to say Javier Rodriguez is drawing a sexless character? Of course not. All that being said, the new Wonder Woman outfit is pretty bad. It feels like a bad variant of Big Barda, somehow?
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Mar 15, 2015 22:56
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Zero_Tactility posted:"It's hideous. It's unflattering, it's not distinctive, it's unnecessarily cumbersome, awkward and ugly." It's well designed ugly. His broader point that it's unflattering etc. is true, but completely intentional. She made it herself out of an outfit that's meant to be unflattering.
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Mar 15, 2015 23:24
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Change the red to skin tone, and she's a girl posing in her prom dress. I think it's flattering enough.
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Mar 15, 2015 23:41
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Yeah but it's supposed to be a burkini. It's not actually a dress over leggings, it's one piece.
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Mar 15, 2015 23:57
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hiddenriverninja posted:Does Erik Larsen yell at his wife "YOU CAN'T LOVE WHAT I LOVE" Only when she calls his trilby a fedora.
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Mar 16, 2015 00:24
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Erik Larsen complaining about costumes and then posts this as an example of a bad one. Guy's got no taste.
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Mar 16, 2015 01:49
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I ventured from my Bookmarks page to BSS to see if anyone was going to discuss today's one-two punches of tone-deaf criticism. I was not disappointed. Erik's especially fun to watch as he continues painting himself into a corner. "These outfits should be realistic and attractive and appeal to audiences, unlike that pandering Batgirl outfit made from existing, flexible items that seems universally beloved. Why is everyone twisting my words to sound unreasonable?"
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Mar 16, 2015 03:03
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Wendell posted:Erik Larsen complaining about costumes and then posts this as an example of a bad one. Since it's magic and applied by her powers, Captain Marvel's costume might actually be one where it should be a second skin.
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Mar 16, 2015 03:58
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I know it's obvious from the context, but Larsen is so disingenuous in his twitter posts. "Oh, I want a costume that's distinctive from far away I want a good design, I don't care about the rest," followed with "boo, I hate this design, it is bad." I mean that Captain Marvel design is simple, gets across her connection to Captain Mar-Vell's classic outfit, has the sash to reference the Cockrum design, and still gets across that she's a fighter pilot. But he hates it because it's "boring," not because he's a garbage bag full of bad opinions. I kind of agree with J. Scott Campbell's opinion, though. Wonder Woman wearing shoulder pads seems dumb. Her new costume is over-designed and doesn't feel true to the character the way Captain Marvel's or Kamala's does. Especially the wrist blade gauntlets.
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Mar 16, 2015 04:05
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WW's costume is definitely a soup of bad aesthetic choices, yes.
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The Jamie Kelvin redesign really gets what makes the character work, and is possibly even better than the Marston-era design for communicating what the character's all about. But it's funny how in the constant urge to bring Wonder Woman as close to the most common interpretations of Greek Myth as they can, they keep moving her away from the hoplite-inspired Marston outfit.
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Bart Trent, Douchebag who's really into Superman Man.
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Waterhaul posted:I wonder what all around lovely artist and constant Zenoscope artist J Scott Campbell thinks of Wonder Woman's new costume. Aphrodite posted:It's well designed ugly.
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a kitten posted:I wasn't sure if this was better suited to the good/bad art thread or this one. That looks uncomfortable, like her nipples are being pulled to the sides. 
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Endless Mike posted:Well, he's not wrong about the shoulder pads, and a lot of people here have made the same comment. Broken clock and all that. It was more highlighting the fact that lovely artist thinks that she's not showing enough skin and throws in Taliban comparisons...
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prefect posted:That looks uncomfortable, like her nippes are being pulled to the sides. Lifts and separates!  (and yet you could still barely get a piece of dental floss through her cleavage) Just terrible. Good thing that her ridiculous long hair is sentient and can keep itself above the water, though.
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Is there a name for lovely low-content media that exists only as a venue to have women stand around showing cleavage? I'm thinking specifically of that mess above, those Grimm books, etc.
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Nevvy Z posted:Is there a name for lovely low-content media that exists only as a venue to have women stand around showing cleavage? I'm thinking specifically of that mess above, those Grimm books, etc. Soft-core porn.
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Nevvy Z posted:Is there a name for lovely low-content media that exists only as a venue to have women stand around showing cleavage? I'm thinking specifically of that mess above, those Grimm books, etc. Comic books?
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Nevvy Z posted:Is there a name for lovely low-content media that exists only as a venue to have women stand around showing cleavage? I'm thinking specifically of that mess above, those Grimm books, etc. I would have said "Anime" but that has lately been a medium about children showing their lack of cleavage.
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Lurdiak posted:I would have said "Anime" but that has lately been a medium about children showing their lack of cleavage. That's pretty shallow, man. That kind of weird stuff is a small percentage of anime.
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WickedHate posted:That's pretty shallow, man. That kind of weird stuff is a small percentage of anime. what a weird reply to wha-oh it's you laffo
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