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Chomposaur
Feb 28, 2010




Spent Thursday having to go to the bathroom every couple hours at work due to reading posts about him and getting choked up. Felt a little strange for a guy I've never met, but I guess in a way he's been my constant companion over the past twenty years.

Irisi posted:

I was born around the same time too. I turned up at a signing when I was 21 or so and with cheerful tactlessness informed him of that fact, which he said made him feel quite incredibly ancient.

My copy of Going Postal is dedicated to "Irisi, as old as the Disc".

God that's awesome. Going Postal is my favorite.

Speaking of, do y'all reckon Going Postal is an okay place to jump in? I want to send some Discworld out to friends, and I think Guards Guards might not resonate with some people as a one-off. My other option is Small Gods, which is how I got started and another one of my favorites.

Plus probably Wee Free Men for some of my buddies with kids. I wonder how old they'd need to be to appreciate it. I'd love to help get the next generation started.

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NoNotTheMindProbe
Aug 9, 2010
pony porn was here
Why is Terry Pratchett dead but GRR Martin still alive? The world doesn't make sense.

PJOmega
May 5, 2009

NoNotTheMindProbe posted:

Why is Terry Pratchett dead but GRR Martin Terry Goodkind still alive? The world doesn't make sense.

FTFM.

Tunicate
May 15, 2012


You misspelled "Brooks".

wallaka
Jun 8, 2010

Least it wasn't a fucking red shell

Tunicate posted:

You misspelled "Brooks".

drat. Brooks is a hack, but he's not Goodkind chicken-that-is-not-a-chicken.

jng2058
Jul 17, 2010

We have the tools, we have the talent!





Now, now, let's keep it classy. It's what Terry would have wanted.

Phaeoacremonium
Aug 7, 2008


I met the man briefly at a signing in South Africa in 98, thereabouts. Such a gentleman. He had a joke for every single person in the (very long) queue. I'll never forget that day. I don't think I've ever been as sad as I was when I learned about his illness.

Edit: phone-posting :argh:

Phaeoacremonium fucked around with this message at 07:56 on Mar 14, 2015

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




Lprsti99 posted:

I was operating off of a quote I'd heard that he had already started preparations for his assisted suicide death back in 2011, so I believed that he'd intended to do it before he got to that point. If I was mistaken, then of course I'm glad he passed before he reached that point (as glad as I can be that he passed, period, anyway :(). Thank you for pointing out my mistake.

He'd planned to if it ever reached the point, but it's been confirmed this wasn't the case and this was natural. And I think he'd intended to have it made it public if it did come to that, as a way of bringing attention to the cause.

Gnome de plume
Sep 5, 2006

Hell.
Fucking.
Yes.
Well, drat and blast. I only just heard about this.

I got a copy of The Last Continent signed by him at a Whitcoulls in Auckland when it came out.

Wipfmetz
Oct 12, 2007

Sitzen ein oder mehrere Wipfe in einer Lore, so kann man sie ueber den Rand der Lore hinausschauen sehen.
I'm not sure if that would be doing him any favour.

VagueRant
May 24, 2012
I got annoyed at David Cameron "paying tribute" to him with the bland, meaningless statement that he "fired the imagination". Blech. He is the kind of person Pratchett was warning us about. :smith:

And on that vaguely political note, I've always been kind of surprised that Pratchett didn't turn down his knighthood, given the views on monarchy expressed by Vimes and the like. Has he ever commented on that?

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

There's politics and there's being a fantasy person and getting a knighthood and a sword.

e: that was, in fact, his comment on it

quote:

"You can't ask a fantasy writer not to want a knighthood. You know, for two pins I'd get myself a horse and a sword."

e2: possibly the best picture I've ever seen of the man:

My Lovely Horse fucked around with this message at 10:40 on Mar 14, 2015

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!
And don't forget, he did get himself a sword. It is even made of star metal. I kind of hope he is buried with it.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/when-terry-pratchett-was-knighted-he-forged-his-own-sword-out-of-meteorite-10104321.html

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

If you have some time to spare, you should watch Neil Gaiman talk at length about Terry and their relationship:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeyjn3EaHAM

And if you don't have the time to spare, at least listen to the anecdote that starts around 30 minutes in.

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




thespaceinvader posted:

And don't forget, he did get himself a sword. It is even made of star metal. I kind of hope he is buried with it.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/when-terry-pratchett-was-knighted-he-forged-his-own-sword-out-of-meteorite-10104321.html

Everyone should have a good burial weapon. Just in case...

toasterwarrior
Nov 11, 2011

My Lovely Horse posted:

If you have some time to spare, you should watch Neil Gaiman talk at length about Terry and their relationship:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeyjn3EaHAM

And if you don't have the time to spare, at least listen to the anecdote that starts around 30 minutes in.

Thank you for this; just so happened that I've been thinking about how the comedy genre and how Pratchett basically pulled it out of an "intellectual ghetto", for the lack of a better word. The bit about comedy and seriousness not being polar opposites fit it perfectly.

shadok
Dec 12, 2004

You tried to destroy it once before, Commodore.
The result was a wrecked ship and a dead crew.
Fun Shoe

My Lovely Horse posted:

That was in Germany, but it was the publisher's doing (and Terry actually changed publishers over it) and not as such "in the middle of the text", more like an extra page inserted somewhere that had the ad, although they did make clumsy attempts at integrating it with the current scene ("couldn't our heroes go for a bowl of soup right now"). Here is a more comprehensive account of the whole business, but sadly it seems to have lost its example image.



Pesmerga posted:

I met Terry Pratchett once when I was about 13. He was at a book signing, and I was running late to get there. He was packing up as I arrived, but he still took the time to sign a copy of a book for me, and asked which was my favourite. I was so awestruck I could barely speak. He just smiled, and wrote 'Boo!' next to his signature.

kanonvandekempen
Mar 14, 2009
Your name is Louvain? After the city?

Bilirubin
Feb 16, 2014

The sanctioned action is to CHUG


just picked up Men At Arms to continue my Watch reading

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

It's even worse than I remembered.

But enough about the translation, the same goes for the ad: as if interrupting mid-sentence wasn't bad enough, it flat out suggests you take a break from reading. Do they know their audience or what.

For reference:

quote:

Where Teppic is right now isn't suitable for a leisurely picnic - so he rides on.

But we may as well take a break. After all, there are many adventures ahead. So let's halt our reading for five minutes and prepare something hot and savoury: for example...

[and then it's just the pitch for their lovely instant soup thing]

Bilirubin
Feb 16, 2014

The sanctioned action is to CHUG


If I were an author I would be furious with such an ad embedded in the book

shadok
Dec 12, 2004

You tried to destroy it once before, Commodore.
The result was a wrecked ship and a dead crew.
Fun Shoe

kanonvandekempen posted:

Your name is Louvain? After the city?

No, that book was a gift to me and it was bought second-hand. Four of my Terry Pratchett books are autographed, but I never personally met him. That's the only one with a dedication (and a rubber stamp), the rest are just signed.

Drunk in Space
Dec 1, 2009
I haven't read any Discworld books since going off the series around about the time Hogfather came out, but I'd like to join the chorus of people who said reading them was a big part of their childhood and left such a long-lasting impression. I remember English teachers getting angry with me because Discworld novels were all I ever read for book reports, and I still have a few well-read and dog-eared books I 'retained' from the libraries of various schools I attended. My Colour of Magic copy is more sellotape than paper and has a poo poo-ton of stamps in it going right back to '85. It is a treasure.

As for the man himself, I never met him personally, though he was on the same flight as me once and I was standing near him at arrivals. He looked tired and a bit grumpy (it was a long flight), so in my infinite teenage wisdom, I decided not to bother him. I gaped at him idiotically, though.

Thanks for all the great reads, Terry!

George Rouncewell
Jul 20, 2007

You think that's illegal? Heh, watch this.
The finnish translations are mostly fantastic, but Pratchett is like 90% responsible for me learning English. They just didn't translate fast enough :argh:
Sometimes there were translators notes in the vein of 'Oh god i give up. The dwarf is originally called Glod and Imp says they are on a mission from Glod and just go watch Blues Brothers already'

I'm pretty sure Terry approved

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon

Illegal Username posted:

The finnish translations are mostly fantastic, but Pratchett is like 90% responsible for me learning English. They just didn't translate fast enough :argh:
Sometimes there were translators notes in the vein of 'Oh god i give up. The dwarf is originally called Glod and Imp says they are on a mission from Glod and just go watch Blues Brothers already'

I'm pretty sure Terry approved

The French translator let funny translators notes too.
Mostly about Death's gender, since La Mort is feminine in French, so to explain why he used male pronouns to refer to the character he wrote funny footnotes like "La mort est un male nécessaire" (Death is a necessary male, it's a pun on the fact that mal (evil) and male are pronounced the same in French.

One of the late book had something like "oh you know the drill" as a translator's note, etc... Honestly I like having both the books in English and French around, I could see myself rereading those and compare them more closely.

Patrick Couton got a prize for his translations of the Discworld novels.

Kurtofan fucked around with this message at 13:19 on Mar 15, 2015

Iacen
Mar 19, 2009

Si vis pacem, para bellum



I once tried to translate Going Postal, just for kicks, and it's almost impossible. I think there's a good reason only about five of the books has ever been translated into Danish.

Cardiac
Aug 28, 2012

Iacen posted:

I once tried to translate Going Postal, just for kicks, and it's almost impossible. I think there's a good reason only about five of the books has ever been translated into Danish.

That has more to do with Danish.
There are a lot of books that have been translated to Swedish.

Dirty Frank
Jul 8, 2004

Kurtofan posted:

The French translator let funny translators notes too.
Mostly about Death's gender, since La Mort is feminine in French, so to explain why he used male pronouns to refer to the character he wrote funny footnotes like "La mort est un male nécessaire" (Death is a necessary male, it's a pun on the fact that mal (evil) and male are pronounced the same in French.

One of the late book had something like "oh you know the drill" as a translator's note, etc... Honestly I like having both the books in English and French around, I could see myself rereading those and compare them more closely.

Patrick Couton got a prize for his translations of the Discworld novels.

Did he translate all of them, or does he just come in later on when they realized the books were selling well?

edit: did the obvious thing and looked it up on amazon, he at least translated color of magic, so I'd guess he did them all. Cool, gonna start with that and see how I go.

Dirty Frank fucked around with this message at 15:48 on Mar 15, 2015

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

The new German translations by Gerald Jung are really good. At least from what I can see in amazon previews. Dialogue now sounds like actual people talking to each other, if you can imagine. Everyone sounded the same as everyone else and as the narrative voice in the old ones.

That being said, there's new cover art as well.



I know the idiom about judging books as well as anybody, and I'd rather have the good translation if it comes down to that, but...

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009

Now the Drums beat up again,
For all true Soldier Gentlemen.
Reminds me sort of Discworld Noir. There has been much worse covers for Discworld now.

The worse in my opinion was the one with the basket ball. For Unseen Academicals. Also, my Jackrum avatar is more grotesque.

tooterfish
Jul 13, 2013

I've seen two covers for Unseen Academicals, neither have basketballs on them.

They have old leather footballs like these.

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009

Now the Drums beat up again,
For all true Soldier Gentlemen.
Trust me, it is a thing. Posted in this very thread.

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

SeanBeansShako posted:

Reminds me sort of Discworld Noir.
It does have that distinct "late 90s 3D graphics" vibe that always reminds me of games from that era.

It's just so undynamic. Here's a man smoking a cigar while steering a boat through rough waters at great speed like a badass, and everything's completely rigid with a plastic sheen, water droplets hanging in the air, there seems to be a floodlight suspended inches from his head and he looks like it's his morning commute and he's sick of the rat race and wants to buy a Harley.

Granted, I haven't read Snuff

double nine
Aug 8, 2013

Has anyone ever read a dutch translation of a discworld book? I 've always read them in English, so I have no point of comparison and I'd like to give them to a few friends whose English skills aren't quite up to par.

kanonvandekempen
Mar 14, 2009

double nine posted:

Has anyone ever read a dutch translation of a discworld book? I 've always read them in English, so I have no point of comparison and I'd like to give them to a few friends whose English skills aren't quite up to par.

My first discworld book I read while I was taking a bus to France to see the full solar eclipse in 1999. I was 15, and my friend brought the dutch translation of The light fantastic ('Het wonderlijke licht' I think). He must have been pretty annoyed, because I spent all day reading the book and not talking to him much. Luckily we're still friends.

It was really long ago so I can't comment much on the translation quality, I remember Rincewind became Rinzwind and Twoflower became Tweebloesem. It must have been pretty good though because I also remember reading every Discworld book in the local library shortly after that.

And 20 years later, after reading my first Pratchet on a solar eclipse day I'll go see another solar eclipse next week, which feels kinda poetic.

Kesper North
Nov 3, 2011

EMERGENCY POWER TO PARTY

kanonvandekempen posted:

And 20 years later, after reading my first Pratchet on a solar eclipse day I'll go see another solar eclipse next week, which feels kinda poetic.

That's awesome. I, too, am going to see that eclipse, as are many other goons, because the internet spaceships convention got moved to this weekend so we could all see the eclipse.

freebooter
Jul 7, 2009

My Lovely Horse posted:

There's politics and there's being a fantasy person and getting a knighthood and a sword.

e: that was, in fact, his comment on it


e2: possibly the best picture I've ever seen of the man:


There is a superior photo which is almost the same, but he's holding the bottle with his right hand and patting the pig with his left.

Hedrigall
Mar 27, 2008

by vyelkin
A quarter of the way through Monstrous Regiment so far and I'm loving it! But it doesn't feel like a Discworld book. Feels like I'm reading something else entirely until the occasional Igor/troll joke pops up and I'm reminded it's a fantasy book.

Blind Melon
Jan 3, 2006
I like fire, you can have some too.

My Lovely Horse posted:

It's just so undynamic. Here's a man smoking a cigar while steering a boat through rough waters at great speed like a badass, and everything's completely rigid with a plastic sheen, water droplets hanging in the air, there seems to be a floodlight suspended inches from his head and he looks like it's his morning commute and he's sick of the rat race and wants to buy a Harley.

The boat looks like a box a little larger than a rowboat with benches around, and a wheel that connects to nothing. I would love to see an image of just that boat, I bet it would sink in a puddle.

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Nihilarian
Oct 2, 2013


freebooter posted:

There is a superior photo which is almost the same, but he's holding the bottle with his right hand and patting the pig with his left.
Do you mean he's holding the bottle with his left hand?

EDIT:

This one?

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