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Geokinesis posted:The telegraph must twist everything no matter how damning towards the conservatives to be ED BAD mustn't they? Front: ED BAD Back: BED AD
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Mar 9, 2015 12:20
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Whole lot of folk on twitter raging about that strip today. It's dumb as gently caress & I really don't get the incest thing but I've seen at least one person claiming it's tantamount to hate speech which is a laugh. His scotpol stuff is more miss than hit but I still like Steve Bell 
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Mar 9, 2015 12:23
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It's a WC Fields quote about not trying incest and country dancing. Doesn't really make it okay though.
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Mar 9, 2015 12:50
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Strawman posted:Knobishness Confirmed by Rowson on Twitter fwiw.
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Mar 9, 2015 12:57
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To be honest I'm struggling to grasp what the outrage is over. Steve Bell's been ripping it out political parties and their leaders for the best part of a few decades now, and now that the SNP are becoming a viable force in UK-wide politics I'd be surprised if he didn't start penning cartoons about them. The only reason I can think of to get super wound-up over this is if you believe slighting the SNP is the same as slighting everyone in Scotland, which is daft.
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Mar 9, 2015 12:58
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Or if incest was something that was a common anti-Scottish stereotype, which it isn't. (That would be East Anglia within Britain, or Britain as a whole in some countries.)
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Mar 9, 2015 13:06
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dadrips posted:To be honest I'm struggling to grasp what the outrage is over. Steve Bell's been ripping it out political parties and their leaders for the best part of a few decades now, and now that the SNP are becoming a viable force in UK-wide politics I'd be surprised if he didn't start penning cartoons about them. Probably the use of the Scottish iconography present in every one of these cartoons without any counterbalance.
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Mar 9, 2015 13:12
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Wow. The Scotland-rUK divide has actually resulted in Steve bell falling out of favour. These are dark times.
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Mar 9, 2015 13:26
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Guavanaut posted:Or if incest was something that was a common anti-Scottish stereotype, which it isn't. (That would be East Anglia within Britain, or Britain as a whole in some countries.)
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Mar 9, 2015 13:50
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Gonzo McFee posted:Probably the use of the Scottish iconography present in every one of these cartoons without any counterbalance. As much as I loathe cartoonists falling back on lazy devices like tartan, shortbread and Nessie, I don't think this is a particularly egregious example. He's even went ahead and given Alex and Nicola an SNP-yellow tartan. actually looking back on it some of Steve Bell's indyref cartoons are loving hilarious:  
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Mar 9, 2015 13:52
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Zephro posted:The West Country is the cousing-shagging capital of England I'll fight anyone who says different West Country people shag their siblings 
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Mar 9, 2015 14:50
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He could have easily put Sturgeon on a yellow backdrop, the colour of the SNP, instead of a Scottish flag. He could have made a much better point, a much better joke, instead of some gratuitous shite like incest. He should also probably be aware of the massively poo poo tendencies most cartoonists have when it comes to Scotland, from the Telegraph to the Independent, and maybe thought twice before making a lazy joke at the expense of a minority in the UK. If there's outrage and offence being expressed by Scottish people, and not just SNP members, who's to say it's "actually fine"? The smug crowing along the lines of "huh well if you didn't let the SNP get so popular you wouldn't be suffering potshots by association now, would you" is loving atrocious as well. The cartoon depicts our first minister against a Scottish flag wearing traditionally Scotland-associated clothes and demanding incest. Try a cartoon about a Muslim demanding pedophilia and it would never loving fly.
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Mar 9, 2015 15:45
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are we hosed yet?
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Mar 9, 2015 15:46
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Coohoolin posted:Try a cartoon about a Muslim demanding pedophilia and it would never loving fly. It's fair to say Scots have been a figure of fun in the same way that other identities within the UK are (the Welsh are sheepfuckers, the Cornish spend their lives mining tin, eating pasties and making banging electronic music...) but it's absolutely nothing compared to the discrimination faced by Islamic folk. Seriously, away and take your mouth for a shite. also remember that not every Scot voted for "our" first minister and some might actually like seeing her and her party being the butt of a joke for once!
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Mar 9, 2015 16:00
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dadrips posted:haha aye cause those things are completely equivalent, gently caress off Alright, I exaggerated with the comparison, but it's not far off from a Katie Hopkins comment. I don't mind seeing Sturgeon ripped or whatever but making a cartoon that's effectively equating Scottishness with incest isn't achieving anything.
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Mar 9, 2015 16:08
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What Scottish cartoonists do we have? Except Mac, I mean.
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Greg Moodie is pretty great although his style might not be for everyone. Also his cartoons are a bunch of different images and are a bitch to copy over. On the decline of Scottish Labour and Gordon Brown losing his seat:            My personal favourites are Margaret Curran in the space suit and the cardboard cut-out of Alistair Carmichael. On Jim Murphy's approach as Scottish Labour Leader:          
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At the risk of being made to turn over my nat card, I don't think Greg Moodie is particularly good.
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keep punching joe posted:At the risk of being made to turn over my nat card, I don't think Greg Moodie is particularly good.
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Mar 9, 2015 23:41
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dadrips posted:Yeah people can call Steve Bell a vile xenophobe all they want but at least he commits ink to paper. I just hope the photos Greg "101 Ways To Click Posterise In Photoshop" Moodie rips off are CC-licensed. Chances are he'd move on to poser comics or whatever is even closer to the bottom of the barrel. He belongs to the type of artists who simply cannot be stopped.
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Mar 9, 2015 23:48
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Guardian: "Steve Bell on free schools – David Cameron announces 49 new free schools in diverse list, most of which are scheduled to open by September 2016." Telegraph:  Ed Balls: Conservatives planning extreme spending cuts; Cricket World Cup 2015: England knocked out by Bangladesh Independent:  Mail: Mac on...the poison claims from Crufts dog show  'You heard me, copper. He's saying nothing till his lawyer arrives!'
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Cloud Potato posted:Guardian: See, here's what really infuriates me about Bell and Scotpol - he's really creatively funny on every other subject.
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Zephro posted:The West Country is the cousing-shagging capital of England I'll fight anyone who says different Norfolk isn't The West Country
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Guardian: "Steve Bell on Jeremy Clarkson – The BBC said on Tuesday it has suspended controversial Top Gear presenter Jeremy Clarkson pending an investigation into his “fracas with a BBC producer"; Claims Tory poster 'will boost SNP' Telegraph:  Cheltenham Festival; Putin reveals secrets of Russia's Crimea takeover plot Independent:  Terror 'apologists' must share blame - Hammond Times:  Poisoned Crufts dog. Mail: Mac on... the hype surrounding the launch of the Apple iWatch  'Doris, love. That fancy new Apple wristwatch you bought... which app did you just press?'
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keep punching joe posted:At the risk of being made to turn over my nat card, I don't think Greg Moodie is particularly good. I'd go so far as to say that he's shite.
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Guardian: "Steve Bell on the televised leaders' debates – At prime ministers questions David Cameron shared his apocalyptic visions of a post-election multiverse in which Ed Miliband was in two places at once – hanging on the coat-tails of Alex Salmond, and in Salmond’s pocket" Telegraph:  Jeremy Clarkson jokes about suspension as petition tops 500,000 Independent:  MPs back standardised cigarette packaging Mail: Mac on... Jeremy Clarkson's most recent fall from grace 
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Guardian: "Steve Bell on Farage's call to scrap anti-discrimination laws – Ukip leader Nigel Farage says Britain should scrap some of its current anti-discrimination laws in favour of legislation that does not seek to ‘divide people’" Telegraph:  Lib Dem Ibrahim Taguri quits party amid donation claims Wednesday's Times:  Nato 2% defence spending target should be met, MPs say After Alfred Leete. Yesterday's Times:  Islamic State crisis: The 13-year-old on 'righteous path' Mail: Mac on... Ex-wives seeking bonus divorce settlements  Edit: Independent: 
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Mar 13, 2015 01:36
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I love that cavernous mouth. And Bell's caricature is hilarious.
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J_RBG posted:I love that cavernous mouth. And Bell's caricature is hilarious. It's shaped like a shoe!
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Mr Phillby posted:It's shaped like a shoe! OH MY GOD
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Saturday's Guardian: "Martin Rowson on the media furore over Ed Miliband's kitchens – Labour leader confirms his house has two kitchens, but says he and his wife barely use the larger one" Yesterday's Observer:  "Jeremy Clarkson and Nigel Farage reinterpret CS Lewis – Chris Riddell on the equally hapless Top Gear presenter and Ukip leader" Guardian:  "Martin Rowson on David Cameron and Ukip – Ukip would demand an EU referendum before Christmas as the price for doing a deal with the Conservatives to support their spending plans, Nigel Farage has said" Saturday's Telegraph:  Sunday Telegraph:  Telegraph:  Budget 2015: No gimmicks, pledges George Osborne Saturday's Independent:  After Van Gogh. Independent on Sunday:  Independent:  Nick Clegg: Liberal Democrats 'here to stay' Friday's Times:  Saturday's Times:  (May 2014: Ed Miliband fails to look normal while eating bacon sandwich ahead of campaign tour) Times:  Stephen Collins:  Wikipedia: Dunbar's Number
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oh god gently caress the telegraph forever
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Cloud Potato posted:Saturday's Guardian: yess yesss yessssssssss Is that "don't dare have a point" obscured by the hand, there? Also is Brookes suddenly writing "apologies to Aardman" after drawing Milliband as Wallace for several months (at least) by this point? I wonder what brought that on.
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Angepain posted:Also is Brookes suddenly writing "apologies to Aardman" after drawing Milliband as Wallace for several months (at least) by this point? I wonder what brought that on. It comes and goes. Sometimes he credits them, sometimes he doesn't.
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Cloud Potato posted:Saturday's Times: That ketchup bottle is unused. Is he slaughtering the pig in there as well? 
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Guardian: "Steve Bell on Tony Blair and the Middle East – Tony Blair’s stint as the Quartet’s representative has been a tragic waste, focused more on business than on peace between Palestinians and Israelis" Telegraph:  Independent:  Grant Shapps admits interview error over 'second job dates' Times:  UK Budget to be announced tomorrow; March 2014: Minister fuels pension debate with Lamborghini comment Mail: Mac on... A Labour and SNP coalition  After this poster.
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God drat it, Mac.
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Well, at least Mac understands that Alex Salmond isn't the SNP leader anymore. 
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