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So who else tensed up during that entire scene right up to "Welcome to Charleston"?nooneofconsequence posted:How did Vane get to Charleston without a ship? I'm guessing he still has Ned Lowe's ship.
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Haven't watched today's episode, but Vane totally murked Lowes crew, or most of them.
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Mar 15, 2015 05:11
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Ha Abigail has eyes for Billy Guns and Vane really knows how to throw a party. We're all hot for Billy forearms girl it's ok 
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Mar 15, 2015 05:16
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Roman Reigns posted:So who else tensed up during that entire scene right up to "Welcome to Charleston"? That's the ship that's still anchored in Nassau. His original ship sunk.
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Mar 15, 2015 06:16
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Captain Vane's crew are Navy SEALs
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Mar 15, 2015 06:30
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Vane got so mad he levelled up to Billy strength and swam that loving distance.
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Mar 15, 2015 16:36
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Rocksicles posted:Captain Vane's crew are Navy SEALs So they used stealth Black hawk helicopters then?
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Mar 15, 2015 16:57
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Cat Hatter posted:So they used stealth Black hawk helicopters then? It's a Michael Bay production, they had to sneak them in somewhere. (Though I have to say, this show is way better than I ever expected something with his name attached to be.)
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Mar 15, 2015 17:45
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I don't know for sure, but I imagine it's mostly just to put his name on the credits.
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Mar 15, 2015 18:19
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NEXT ITEM! *stomp stomp*
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Mar 16, 2015 01:46
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Who was the dude on the cross at Vane's fortress? I think I'm missing it. Edit: vvv dammit. Good call I should've seen that. Yeet fucked around with this message at 02:37 on Mar 16, 2015 |
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Mar 16, 2015 02:24
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Yeet posted:Who was the dude on the cross at Vane's fortress? I think I'm missing it. Eleanor Guthrie's father. It was a little confusing to me until the end of the letter.
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Mar 16, 2015 02:33
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He got off the buggy when the horses stopped in the previous episode, and all Vanes men were standing there in the fog.
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Mar 16, 2015 02:42
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They're making Vane too calculating and smart I think. It's getting a little bit silly.
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Mar 16, 2015 04:06
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I like underhanded conniving Vane. Think Silver will take control of the situation, stop the attack by Vane, and then start to think of his own captaincy? We know he's gonna be a quartermaster sooner or later.
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Mar 16, 2015 04:41
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I want to know how Vane not only convinced all those guys not to kill him, but also to swim 500 miles to Charleston.
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Mar 16, 2015 05:13
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Solice Kirsk posted:I like underhanded conniving Vane. Think Silver will take control of the situation, stop the attack by Vane, and then start to think of his own captaincy? We know he's gonna be a quartermaster sooner or later. Billy is the quartermaster in Treasure Island.
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Mar 16, 2015 05:15
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That was a decent episode. Like most folks, though, I am waiting for my big ship battle.
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Mar 16, 2015 06:00
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Rocksicles posted:He got off the buggy when the horses stopped in the previous episode, and all Vanes men were standing there in the fog. I completely forgot about that until you mentioned it, and the elder Guthrie is too nondescript for me to remember what he looks like until I figure out his identity from context. Maybe Father Guthrie had a boat that Vane used?
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Mar 16, 2015 07:00
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Aphrodite posted:Billy is the quartermaster in Treasure Island. John silver was quartermaster for Flint though
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Mar 16, 2015 22:31
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The use of Richard Guthrie was to cement Vane as now being totally a villain. When Eleanor took Abigail that's what drove him finally over the edge, and the crucifixtion is just to make it clear to Eleanor and the audience that there is no loving going back now, and it's at least partially her fault.
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Mar 17, 2015 11:04
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Maybe they killed him then rode his carriage to Charleston???
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Mar 17, 2015 14:01
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That'd be a hell of a carriage. Black Sails Chitty Chitty Bang Bang crossover time. I now genuinely want this to happen.
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Mar 17, 2015 15:13
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Aphrodite posted:That's the ship that's still anchored in Nassau. His original ship sunk. Nassau doesn't operate in a vacuum, there are other islands where they could have commandeered a schooner or the like. My problem is they managed to make it to Charleston before the Man'o'War did.
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Mar 17, 2015 15:43
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Party Plane Jones posted:Nassau doesn't operate in a vacuum, there are other islands where they could have commandeered a schooner or the like. My problem is they managed to make it to Charleston before the Man'o'War did. Shouldn't the Man'o'war be significantly slower the average vessel since it's made for battle instead of ferrying cargo? 
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Mar 17, 2015 15:50
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Xoidanor posted:Shouldn't the Man'o'war be significantly slower the average vessel since it's made for battle instead of ferrying cargo? Nah, it'd probably be faster than a smaller vessel, but not as maneuverable. As sailing ships get bigger they can put on more sails, and they're length to width ratio is better for higher speeds.
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Mar 17, 2015 16:58
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He sent the majority of his force there ahead of time, but that doesn't explain how he got there so quick. Maybe he just bit the bullet and took a short notice flight. Those can be expensive though.
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Mar 17, 2015 22:05
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He just grumbled with his deep voice and a wormhole appeared and he traveled through it to Charlestown.
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Mar 18, 2015 01:35
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ElBrak posted:Nah, it'd probably be faster than a smaller vessel, but not as maneuverable. As sailing ships get bigger they can put on more sails, and they're length to width ratio is better for higher speeds. Nope, those thing were slow as gently caress, cruising speed was about 9 knots. A sloop would do about 12.
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Mar 18, 2015 14:53
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Flint sent his sniper team back to Florida on a row boat with a sail, to watch over the gold.
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Mar 18, 2015 15:48
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Flatscan posted:Nope, those thing were slow as gently caress, cruising speed was about 9 knots. A sloop would do about 12. It really depends very strongly on the LWR of the ships in question, the amount of wind, and the area of sail. What size slopp with what conditions?
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Mar 18, 2015 16:26
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The type of ship depicted in Black Sails are heavy keeled displacement hull ships. In these ships, maximum speed generally correlates directly with length at the waterline because this determines the size of wave the hull can sit within (the wave created by the ship). The length of this wave correlates directly with its speed: http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/technical/hullspeed/hullspeed.htm So as a general rule larger, longer ships will be faster over the long run than shorter ones. These ships can go faster than a wave while surfing down the face of a giant wave, for instance, but in general the displacement issue determines the maximum practical speed. This does not speak to maneuverability of course. Of course, some boats are designed to be able to hydroplane or skim across multiple waves but this is generally not true of the ships being discussed here.
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Mar 18, 2015 19:22
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I think the real reason Vane got there so quickly is through the magic of TV fiction and not through any kind of long thought out process the writers went through where they calculated the most likely routes of the lineship and vane's crew while taking into consideration draught, length, winds, the speed of an unladen African swallow, or ocean currents? But since we're being silly... Vane and his men prolly could have just grabbed a little ship or a bunch of skiff's and sailed right up the coast whereas Flint maybe had to swing out to sea a little bit to avoid the Floridian coast in his stolen Spanish ship of the line so as not draw the ire of Spanish patrols and still further stayed out at sea while he sailed through the Carolina territorial waters of the governor who's got a no-tolerance policy towards pirates and whose patrol ships probably would fire on him being spanish or pirate because the gently caress are the Spanish violating English waters during a truce from war?
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Everything is going #TeamRackham's way  It was great to see Jonh's face when he realized how much power he had over the crew. It's clear he became aware that he could very well lead a pirate ship right there. Only two episodes left? That sucks  Solice Kirsk posted:Is this like a new GBS/FYAD joke or something? I've been seeing people use this garbage for a few weeks now and I just don't get it.  Flatscan posted:Nope, those thing were slow as gently caress, cruising speed was about 9 knots. A sloop would do about 12. SeaWolf posted:I think the real reason Vane got there so quickly is through the magic of TV fiction and not through any kind of long thought out process the writers went through where they calculated the most likely routes of the lineship and vane's crew while taking into consideration draught, length, winds, the speed of an unladen African swallow, or ocean currents?
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Mans posted:But a sloop was super small and only appeared later on (this is 17\early 18th right?) Mans posted:I don't think anyone's demanding to see Vane's charter plans but it is a bit weird how Vane abandoned the fort, killed Eleanor's father and crucified his corpse and then followed Flynt's man-o-war by swimming. It's entirely possible that they simply sneaked immediately after they lost the hostage and stole a fast ship and have been waiting for Flynt, but it felt way too weird and badly explained. I dunno, after Eleanor left Vane to fend for himself I'm sure he figured he had no choice but to make a quick and highly charismatic appeal to the men he's only holding together through the promise of riches and not having to sail around the Caribbean Having said that, I'm pretty sure Vane's gonna get the ship because in Treasure Island Captain Flint is still known as commanding The Walrus, not the loving awesome 100 gun stolen ship of the line. But at least he gets to keep the coat. Or maybe no one gets it at all because Lord Ashe is tired of pirates bickering and just sinks the loving thing. SeaWolf fucked around with this message at 01:39 on Mar 19, 2015 |
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Mar 19, 2015 01:34
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The Walrus sunk.
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Mar 19, 2015 01:53
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Aphrodite posted:The Walrus sunk. no way dude, ranger sunk. Walrus is clearly beached a ways away and heavily damaged from the Urca gold
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Mar 19, 2015 02:25
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Anyway, pirates regularly changed their ship names. Charles Vane had more than 1 called the Ranger.
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Mar 19, 2015 02:27
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When the soldiers were kicking Flint I couldn't help but think, "No, not the coat.  "
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When was it expressed that Vane was there ahead of Flint? My understanding was the American asked Flint if he was Vane, implying Vane hadn't arrived yet?
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