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Mithranderp posted:ruin something delicious with vegemite? ftfy
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# ? Mar 16, 2015 10:21 |
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# ? Jun 12, 2024 10:17 |
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Mithranderp posted:I assume that Beet refers to the potential for scum to take advantage of the general anti-dav sentiment and getting in on a convenient bandwagon day one. If scum had any brains they would be aware of that as it's been discussed ad nauseum in previous games, and so it's back to wine in front of me. Get. Out.
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# ? Mar 16, 2015 10:23 |
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Coaching usually always involves feedback and is a back and forth between two or more parties until a goal is met. Feedback doesn't necessarily involve coaching because it can be passive and rarely is a back and forth exchange. Normally is seen as (but not limited to) a one off comment or report eg. " your coles store sucks and is run by Hitler youth "
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# ? Mar 16, 2015 10:25 |
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Matthew Beet posted:Coaching usually always involves feedback and is a back and forth between two or more parties until a goal is met. Just as a, random example.
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# ? Mar 16, 2015 10:26 |
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as a law student i advise you all to develop mental health and substance abuse problems this will make mafia easier somehwo
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# ? Mar 16, 2015 10:27 |
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Tommofork posted:If scum had any brains they would be aware of that as it's been discussed ad nauseum in previous games, and so it's back to wine in front of me. True, but we've also established that collectively auspol mafia has a weird ability to ignore obvious things. Nah bro it adds an extra dimension of flavour to the blandness of white bread, cheese, and sparse amounts of "bacon". That being said, plain ones with just butter are also delicious.
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# ? Mar 16, 2015 10:29 |
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thatbastardken posted:as a law student i advise you all to develop mental health and substance abuse problems as a fellow law student I already have that and mafia isn't any easier. Maybe because my substance of choice is fooooood.
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# ? Mar 16, 2015 10:30 |
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Asphyxious posted:Just as a, random example. completely random and not targeted at all.
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# ? Mar 16, 2015 10:30 |
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Next mafia should be pure, innocent town who know vegemite sucks versus evil scummy vege-likers.
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# ? Mar 16, 2015 10:36 |
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Anidav posted:3. Bifauxnen's posting style has devolved from a somewhat analytical manner to posting giggles and appears to remain as the only poster posting about previous games. She might be busy with real life things but that's my interpretation. psst Anidav I'm going to tell you a secret it never really makes any loving difference how I post
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# ? Mar 16, 2015 10:36 |
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Matthew Beet posted:I wasn't supporting anidav at all, I was suggesting that people on an anidav train warrant a closer look. While it's not really out-and-out support, I feel like whenever Anidav comes up as a possible target, you start encouraging people to look in other directions. Matthew Beet posted:He shouldn't have come out saying 'I'm town' in a semi serious way. If anyone else had done that what would the response be? That's a scummy play. Sure, we know Anidav is a bad player. But just because he's not always lying when he claims town doesn't mean it isn't a scummy play, or at the very least, a suspicious play. Matthew Beet posted:So because he's such an obvious and east target I'm carefully scrutinising people who vote for him. He's a safe target for scum and likely to draw votes that don't get follow up. I completely understand the "watch the bandwagon" ploy. It's a valid tactic, save for two factors: 1. It doesn't really serve as a scumcatcher if you announce you're doing it. If anything, it seems more like you're protecting Anidav, because anyone who votes against him after you say that is suddenly suspicious. If he flips scum, that's going to look bad on you. That said, if he's actually town, that looks pretty good on you at first glance. You encouraged town to avoid jumping on a scum bandwagon, bravo. My main issue is that you currently have no way of knowing whether Anidav is worth protecting or not, unless you are scum. At present moment no one (other than scum) has any reason to try to defend another town member. Discouraging people from voting for him is, as such, pretty suspect. 2. Matthew Beet posted:Eh it's all I need. Gut feeling. It's day 1. Let me build my arguments on later days. You called the very same tactic scummy when Gaspy did it to you! Honestly, this is smelling pretty fishy.
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# ? Mar 16, 2015 10:36 |
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Old Dirty Cumburgs posted:My main issue is that you currently have no way of knowing whether Anidav is worth protecting or not, unless you are scum. At present moment no one (other than scum) has any reason to try to defend another town member. Discouraging people from voting for him is, as such, pretty suspect. The issue is that it's easy for scum to vote for Anidav without incriminating themselves if he flips town, so you don't get as much data as you would otherwise. HOWEVER, it's no worse than lynching someone at random in terms of "well you can't blame me for that when he flips town", AND you have the added advantage of removing a poster who's sole talent is to absolutely dominate and derail any productive scumhunting until somebody finally kills him.
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# ? Mar 16, 2015 10:40 |
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Having either Mills or Anidav in an Auspol game is usually good for the scum, as they're big lynching targets.
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# ? Mar 16, 2015 10:44 |
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Splode posted:The issue is that it's easy for scum to vote for Anidav without incriminating themselves if he flips town, so you don't get as much data as you would otherwise. HOWEVER, it's no worse than lynching someone at random in terms of "well you can't blame me for that when he flips town", AND you have the added advantage of removing a poster who's sole talent is to absolutely dominate and derail any productive scumhunting until somebody finally kills him. They should have sent a poet
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# ? Mar 16, 2015 10:44 |
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Beet's probably trying to give Anidav a fair shake of the sauce bottle because the little battler can't seem to catch a break, but fair dinkum I think he's taken it a bit too far and is making himself look dead set scummy on this one. As people have said, there's basically no reason to cover another player unless you're dinky-di scum trying to get town on side or look better once a player flips scum, but stone the crows ol' Beet's just a bit too sentimental at times I reckon.
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# ? Mar 16, 2015 10:46 |
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Matthew Beet posted:Chicken schnitzel in a cheese and bacon roll instead of a plain roll. so youve never actually tried one?
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# ? Mar 16, 2015 10:47 |
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No matter what I post, Splode's on my tail. It's a bit unfair. I just want to play.
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# ? Mar 16, 2015 10:47 |
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Anidav posted:No matter what I post, Splode's on my tail. It's a bit unfair. I just want to play. Splode is a bloodhound. Help him find a better target and you should be alright. If you can't find one, well then why not you? Better an active scumhunter do their thing than just have a sleepy town roll over and die.
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# ? Mar 16, 2015 10:49 |
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Asphyxious posted:Beet's probably trying to give Anidav a fair shake of the sauce bottle because the little battler can't seem to catch a break, but fair dinkum I think he's taken it a bit too far and is making himself look dead set scummy on this one. As people have said, there's basically no reason to cover another player unless you're dinky-di scum trying to get town on side or look better once a player flips scum, but stone the crows ol' Beet's just a bit too sentimental at times I reckon. You could be like me in my first game and be an idiot.
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# ? Mar 16, 2015 10:49 |
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Asphyxious posted:Beet's probably trying to give Anidav a fair shake of the sauce bottle because the little battler can't seem to catch a break, but fair dinkum I think he's taken it a bit too far and is making himself look dead set scummy on this one. As people have said, there's basically no reason to cover another player unless you're dinky-di scum trying to get town on side or look better once a player flips scum, but stone the crows ol' Beet's just a bit too sentimental at times I reckon. Ban for account sharing with Avvy imo
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# ? Mar 16, 2015 10:50 |
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Asphyxious posted:Beet's probably trying to give Anidav a fair shake of the sauce bottle because the little battler can't seem to catch a break, but fair dinkum I think he's taken it a bit too far and is making himself look dead set scummy on this one. As people have said, there's basically no reason to cover another player unless you're dinky-di scum trying to get town on side or look better once a player flips scum, but stone the crows ol' Beet's just a bit too sentimental at times I reckon. My forensic linguistics spidey sense is tingling
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# ? Mar 16, 2015 10:51 |
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you're really bad at reading. Old Dirty Cumburgs posted:While it's not really out-and-out support, I feel like whenever Anidav comes up as a possible target, you start encouraging people to look in other directions. i'm not saying that at all. I'm saying lets have a look at who is voting anidav and why. if we dont have a focal point to discuss things, what else are we gonna talk about? the sexual tension between gaspy and i? i've never not once said lets not lynch gaspy, in fact i thought iv'e been leaning towards it. the only thing i've said today that could even support your argument was my comment: Matthew Beet posted:Has he ever had a chance to? quote:
Uhh that's exactly what I was saying in the part you quoted. Thanks for agreeing with me I guess? quote:I completely understand the "watch the bandwagon" ploy. It's a valid tactic, save for two factors: I actually said I was going to read later on who had already voted anidav prior to me posting that. I don't think anyone has voted him since, actually. FUNNY THAT. quote:
this is what a terrible leap in logic looks like. you've made a flawed conclusion that i'm trying to defer a lynch off of anidav and trying to say i therefore must know his alignment because i'm defending him, ergo i'm scum. quote:
Gaspy tried to lead a lynch then turned around with an "AHA!". I've come in and said "i'm gonna look at why people are voting X." it's not the very same tactic. it's not even a similar tactic. they're like, third cousins at best dude. quote:Honestly, this is smelling pretty fishy stop trying to manufacture 'evidence' to fit into your narrative.
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# ? Mar 16, 2015 10:51 |
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Asphyxious posted:Beet's probably trying to give Anidav a fair shake of the sauce bottle because the little battler can't seem to catch a break, but fair dinkum I think he's taken it a bit too far and is making himself look dead set scummy on this one. As people have said, there's basically no reason to cover another player unless you're dinky-di scum trying to get town on side or look better once a player flips scum, but stone the crows ol' Beet's just a bit too sentimental at times I reckon. you're usually not one to fall for bad logic easily.
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# ? Mar 16, 2015 10:53 |
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SPELLING FIXMatthew Beet posted:you're really bad at reading.
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# ? Mar 16, 2015 10:54 |
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##vote asphyxious
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# ? Mar 16, 2015 10:55 |
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Matthew Beet posted:you're usually not one to fall for bad logic easily. You're usually not one to take what I say at face value.
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# ? Mar 16, 2015 10:55 |
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Asphyxious posted:You're usually not one to take what I say at face value. actually, no, i do. you know why? because you're a terrible liar when scum and you try too hard to be funny because you know the second you go super serious mode i'll be on your like donkey kong on a banana.
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# ? Mar 16, 2015 10:57 |
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Matthew Beet posted:actually, no, i do. you know why? because you're a terrible liar when scum and you try too hard to be funny because you know the second you go super serious mode i'll be on your like donkey kong on a banana. Uhhh I'm like the BEST liar when scum. Nice try though.
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# ? Mar 16, 2015 10:58 |
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It's day one, I already made a small constructive post. I will probably make more if town just lets me play for once and stops letting other posters set the narrative on me before I get any breathing room. Like seriously, can I get some breathing room for once? Maybe lynching me will stop benefiting scum if you actually let me show you I can be a good town. This always loving happens you guys just hit me like magnets and I have to role claim ruining all my value.(not a role claim) Just treat me like a person rather than a target. Is it really that hard? I'm so loving sick of every Auspol mafia game being treated as a sequel to the previous. This is a separate game with separate rules and roles. Treat it as if you've never met me and maybe we can have a productive day rather than a whole cycle of Anidav this and Anidav that. Just stop. I hate it. I just want to play for fun.
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# ? Mar 16, 2015 10:59 |
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Anidav posted:It's day one, I already made a small constructive post. I will probably make more if town just lets me play for once and stops letting other posters set the narrative on me before I get any breathing room. ##vote Anidav
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# ? Mar 16, 2015 11:00 |
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Matthew Beet posted:you're really bad at reading. I still honestly believe you're trying to defer a lynch from Anidav, and you certainly haven't posted anything that suggests you're for it. It is absolutely unsurprising that no one voted for Anidav after your post. It smells like a trap a mile away, for the reasons I specified. Do you want some more time to rethink your argument, or at least start suggesting you're working towards the things you claim that you're working towards? Because all you've done to attack my arguments is say that they're flawed.
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# ? Mar 16, 2015 11:00 |
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Matthew Beet posted:##vote asphyxious Asphyxious posted:##vote Anidav Do you think jumping on a train will save you from Beet's wrath?
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# ? Mar 16, 2015 11:04 |
So many fake meltdowns and slap fights If this were really a democracy you'd vote me dictator and give me emergency powers to hunt out the scum that will slip through the gaps because we can only lynch one person a day. Classic Labor inefficiency
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# ? Mar 16, 2015 11:05 |
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Old Dirty Cumburgs posted:I still honestly believe you're trying to defer a lynch from Anidav, and you certainly haven't posted anything that suggests you're for it. It's completely unsurprising that no one voted for anidav after my post? It's a trap? So what, all of the scum and all of town are in on it? That's your argument? seriously? in light of that i don't see why i have to repeat the points i've already made, I'll sum it up easily for you: * you've misinterpreted me (or are deliberately misrepresenting me) and from there have drawn a flawed conclusion that i'm trying to protect anidav. everything else you've written stems from there. your whole argument is based on a flawed assumption therefore everything afterwards is wrong. Try and find some evidence on me saying 'don't lynch anidav'. * I've been trying to say that anidav is dangerous because we tend to treat him differently than other players because we think he's either really bad at the game or harmlessly naive. from there i've suggested he's probably then a liability if town (anything) OR completely dangerous because he'll slink on through to the end of the game ignored. This is in fact me arguing that it's probably a good reason to actually lynch him based on the way everyone skirts around him and his play style or scoffs at him. so in summary, yes, your arguments are flawed. when i'm saying that he's a risk to leave around because we treat him differently than everyone else, you seem to think i'm saying something completely different?
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# ? Mar 16, 2015 11:07 |
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Sulla-Marius 88 posted:So many fake meltdowns and slap fights none of these are meltdowns. keep watching anidav.
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# ? Mar 16, 2015 11:08 |
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Anidav posted:Do you think jumping on a train will save you from Beet's wrath? No I thought responding to your whining with a swift kick was funny. I don't care what Beet does.
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# ? Mar 16, 2015 11:10 |
Well Anidavs whinge above was faker than my... Something funny because I'm sick now too Are you telling me that he is gonna flip out and the kindergarten-level fake out is going to blossom into a real tantrum when nobody falls for it?
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# ? Mar 16, 2015 11:11 |
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Asphyxious posted:##vote Anidav 5'd
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# ? Mar 16, 2015 11:13 |
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Only the mods and deaddoc truly know when an anidav meltdown is in full flight
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# ? Mar 16, 2015 11:14 |
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# ? Jun 12, 2024 10:17 |
Has anybody ever run a game where there are no scum at all and the murdered victims are just chosen at random each night? I think that'd be pretty funny
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