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Full Battle Rattle
Aug 29, 2009

As long as the times refuse to change, we're going to make a hell of a racket.

Vic Boss posted:

Poor Evan.

Oh yeah, forgot it was with Evan. I just beat up a bunch of people and left.

Oxxidation posted:

No idea. Total mystery. It might be either a sequel hook or a "spooky for the sake of spookiness" thing, since the souls of all the previous Mask killers - including that of Richard/Jacket, who's not even dead - chilling out in the back room of a nuke-proof warehouse is out there even by Hotline's standards.

Oh, so it's not just me. I thought I missed some extra plot at the end or something.

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Jizz Festival
Oct 30, 2012
Lipstick Apathy

King Vidiot posted:

They're both really good games. You being angry at Hotline Miami 2 doesn't make it a bad game.

You can also extend that to any game that you or anyone else personally doesn't like, nobody is the end-all arbiter of Good and Bad.

Lol, you're blowing my mind here, guy. All I'm saying is We ♥ Katmari tried more new things than HLM2. It mixed things up more (and was actually fun).

turboraton
Aug 28, 2011

Jizz Festival posted:

Lol, you're blowing my mind here, guy. All I'm saying is We ♥ Katmari tried more new things than HLM2. It mixed things up more (and was actually fun).

Nah, you have been posting angry rants about a game you hate for like a week now.

GLAAD trash bags
Jan 4, 2015

Jizz Festival posted:

Lol, you're blowing my mind here, guy. All I'm saying is We ♥ Katmari tried more new things than HLM2. It mixed things up more (and was actually fun).

Actually it was an ok game, also you've been getting mad at it for like it's entire release time so far, maybe calm down?

Jizz Festival
Oct 30, 2012
Lipstick Apathy
I don't hate the game, I bothered beating it and preordering it and I'm still checking for the level editor. It just sucks, hard. It's a bad game that I don't hate, but I still think it sucks and is terrible.

Trick Question
Apr 9, 2007


Counter-opinion: it's great and better than HLM1.

Jizz Festival
Oct 30, 2012
Lipstick Apathy
It really can't be stressed enough how much this game sucks and how pathetic it is that people are analyzing the idiotic story like it's a piece of literature or something worthwhile.

Parachute
May 18, 2003

Jizz Festival posted:

It really can't be stressed enough how much this game sucks and how pathetic it is that people are analyzing the idiotic story like it's a piece of literature or something worthwhile.

It really can't be stressed enough that nobody cares what you have to say, and how pathetic it is that you are posting for absolutely no reason.

CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Reach for the moon!

Trick Question posted:

Counter-opinion: it's great and better than HLM1.

I hate when people do this, I have no idea why this is a thing on SA. Support your argument if you think that instead of just posting a one-sentence white noise response and maybe people would have a civilized discussion about it instead of flinging poo poo.

edit: I don't mean to call out you specifically, it's just that there are only so many "Actually, it's good" or "Actually, it's not good" posts I can roll my eyes at before I get tired of it.

Jizz Festival
Oct 30, 2012
Lipstick Apathy
There's a world of books waiting to be discovered at your local library. Maybe do that instead of S-ranking every level?

stuffed crust punk
Oct 8, 2004

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
Maybe some people just thought it was cool the original's mysterious story got fleshed out and it's fun looking for little details here and there that reveal little bits of info

It's not loving Twain but it's fun

turboraton
Aug 28, 2011

CJacobs posted:

I hate when people do this, I have no idea why this is a thing on SA. Support your argument if you think that instead of just posting a one-sentence white noise response and maybe people would have a civilized discussion about it instead of flinging poo poo.

edit: I don't mean to call out you specifically, it's just that there are only so many "Actually, it's good" or "Actually, it's not good" posts I can roll my eyes at before I get tired of it.

Counterpoint, I love it.

Ledgy
Aug 1, 2013

Up against the wall

Jizz Festival posted:

There's a world of books waiting to be discovered at your local library. Maybe do that instead of S-ranking every level?

okay jeeze dad

Trick Question
Apr 9, 2007


CJacobs posted:

I hate when people do this, I have no idea why this is a thing on SA. Support your argument if you think that instead of just posting a one-sentence white noise response and maybe people would have a civilized discussion about it instead of flinging poo poo.

Did you look at the post directly above mine? I was mostly making fun of that.

But if you actually want my reasons, I feel like this game just has way more meat that HLM1. The longer, larger, more complex levels allow for more interesting gameplay decisions, and make route optimization and creativity more rewarding. It also has characters with more interesting abilities than anything that was available from masks in HLM1; Corey's and the Son's rolling allow for very aggressive play, and nobody can shut up about how fun the swans are, for good reason.

Ultimately, to me it almost feels like HLM1 was a tutorial for this game.

Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007

Jizz Festival posted:

There's a world of books waiting to be discovered at your local library. Maybe do that instead of S-ranking every level?

You're not going to find anyone discussing actual books on the internet unless they're 50-part fantasy series and/or porn.

turboraton
Aug 28, 2011

Oxxidation posted:

You're not going to find anyone discussing actual books on the internet unless they're 50-part fantasy series and/or porn.

Hey! SA has a subforum for them!

Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007

turboraton posted:

Hey! SA has a subforum for them!

Containing primarily megathreads on 50-part fantasy series and/or porn.

Meiteron
Apr 4, 2008

Whoa! You're gonna be a legend!

Full Battle Rattle posted:

what the gently caress is the story significance of the abyss? I just killed a bunch of people and left.

It's kind of a stretch but I saw it as set up for the eventual assassination of the presidents by 50 blessings. Jake gets the floppy from a 50 blessings higher-up; Evan takes it from Jake's possessions and finds it's a list of addresses. He goes to the address and finds a 50 blessing building, and at the end a bunch of masked vigilantes are there yelling at him to get out. They don't kill him, because they think he's with the 50 blessings people, and specifically say they agreed not to go out at night.

Then at the end of the game right before the nukes go off there is the news broadcast about a bunch of masked vigilantes killing the Russian president. I assumed those vigilantes are the guys you met.

As for why the place is abandoned when you go in and full of enemies when you go out I have no idea beyond Dennaton thinking "oh right have to put actual gameplay in this level"

Under the vegetable
Nov 2, 2004

by Smythe

Oxxidation posted:

You're not going to find anyone discussing actual books on the internet unless they're 50-part fantasy series and/or porn.

There's a really good book thread in EW.

Control Volume
Dec 31, 2008

Jizz Festival posted:

There's a world of books waiting to be discovered at your local library. Maybe do that instead of S-ranking every level?

whats the last piece of proper literature you read

Control Volume
Dec 31, 2008

oh wait haha he's one of those guys who was really mad about the rape movie thing

CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Reach for the moon!
Just tried to launch the game and apparently it had an update? Are there any change logs posted anywhere?

King Vidiot
Feb 17, 2007

You think you can take me at Satan's Hollow? Go 'head on!

Trick Question posted:

and nobody can shut up about how fun the swans are, for good reason.

Alex & Ash, and Jake, totally justify this game's existence. I love putting on Dallas, taking a big wheezy Fatty Goon Goon breath as I take out my nunchaku, and then going on a loving tear through 9 or 10 guys in a row. And then at the end he does that pause where he stretches his nunchuks out in front of him. Absolutely priceless.

A Bystander
Oct 10, 2012

Meiteron posted:

It's kind of a stretch but I saw it as set up for the eventual assassination of the presidents by 50 blessings. Jake gets the floppy from a 50 blessings higher-up; Evan takes it from Jake's possessions and finds it's a list of addresses. He goes to the address and finds a 50 blessing building, and at the end a bunch of masked vigilantes are there yelling at him to get out. They don't kill him, because they think he's with the 50 blessings people, and specifically say they agreed not to go out at night.

Then at the end of the game right before the nukes go off there is the news broadcast about a bunch of masked vigilantes killing the Russian president. I assumed those vigilantes are the guys you met.

As for why the place is abandoned when you go in and full of enemies when you go out I have no idea beyond Dennaton thinking "oh right have to put actual gameplay in this level"


I figured some thugs knew about these guys who wear animal masks and decided to go check it out. Considering what the Fans did/have been doing, it wasn't that out there at first. The problem then becomes "how the hell did they know to check that building" but it's as close to making sense of it as I can.

Expect My Mom
Nov 18, 2013

by Smythe

King Vidiot posted:

Alex & Ash, and Jake, totally justify this game's existence. I love putting on Dallas, taking a big wheezy Fatty Goon Goon breath as I take out my nunchaku, and then going on a loving tear through 9 or 10 guys in a row. And then at the end he does that pause where he stretches his nunchuks out in front of him. Absolutely priceless.
Confession time, I have never used Jake's final mask and have no idea what it is despite everyone talking about it. I'm playing on the Vita and there's a pretty bad bug where sometimes weapons just...don't unlock. It happened with Jake's last mask, Solider's sniper rifle, (yet not the flamethrower) and all of the Son's weapons. I beat the level, get the unlock scene, but when I replay the level, they're blacked out.

I just want to experience Jake's full goon-ness....

Songbearer
Jul 12, 2007




Fuck you say?
There needs to be a DLC pack that replaces Jake's snake masks with a set of fedoras instead.

Parachute
May 18, 2003

Moltrey posted:

Confession time, I have never used Jake's final mask and have no idea what it is despite everyone talking about it. I'm playing on the Vita and there's a pretty bad bug where sometimes weapons just...don't unlock. It happened with Jake's last mask, Solider's sniper rifle, (yet not the flamethrower) and all of the Son's weapons. I beat the level, get the unlock scene, but when I replay the level, they're blacked out.

I just want to experience Jake's full goon-ness....

I was going to post the same thing, then I saw a few posts above that his final mask is nunchaku, the gooniest weapon for the gooniest character

GLAAD trash bags
Jan 4, 2015

Songbearer posted:

There needs to be a DLC pack that replaces Jake's snake masks with a set of fedoras instead.

Uh, they're actually trilbies, YOU RUSSIAN rear end in a top hat !
*wildly swings nunchaku, tires out in 10 seconds*

Expect My Mom
Nov 18, 2013

by Smythe
^^^
There's a 25% chance for Jake to just knock himself out with them with every swing.

Parachute posted:

I was going to post the same thing, then I saw a few posts above that his final mask is nunchaku, the gooniest weapon for the gooniest character
Please tell me it it just gives him nunchucks and that's it. No special abilities, this motherfucker just goes full goon on dudes

Cause if so and I can never use it now because of bugs... :negative:

CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Reach for the moon!

Moltrey posted:

Please tell me it it just gives him nunchucks and that's it. No special abilities, this motherfucker just goes full goon on dudes

Cause if so and I can never use it now because of bugs... :negative:

You can right click to make him go into crazy berserker jujitsu mode, in which he moves way faster and spins the nunchucks fast enough to mulch basically anything that walks in front of them.

edit: here is an approximation I found by youtube-ing 'fat nunchucks' to help you visualize it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mE3vOqoR4g
(1:30)

CJacobs fucked around with this message at 19:45 on Mar 16, 2015

Rush Limbo
Sep 5, 2005

its with a full house

Moltrey posted:

^^^
There's a 25% chance for Jake to just knock himself out with them with every swing.

Please tell me it it just gives him nunchucks and that's it. No special abilities, this motherfucker just goes full goon on dudes

Cause if so and I can never use it now because of bugs... :negative:

If you right click, he goes full retard and starts swinging them like a maniac and speeds up slightly.

Full Battle Rattle
Aug 29, 2009

As long as the times refuse to change, we're going to make a hell of a racket.
He also gets the ability to knock down fatties, like tony. And punching people so hard they die is a blast. Tony was one of my favorite masks in HLM1, and I liked seeing it implemented with the new twist. The Journalists no-violence bullshit would be much more tolerable if the weapons pickup didn't seem to prioritize firearms over literally everything else.

Songbearer
Jul 12, 2007




Fuck you say?
The best part is that he does stupid little flourishes at the start and end, which leads to some amazing moments where he bursts through a door, slaps some people to death with his nunchucks, then flexes them in front of two shotgun barrels the moment before they reduce him to a stain.

Expect My Mom
Nov 18, 2013

by Smythe

CJacobs posted:

You can right click to make him go into crazy berserker jujitsu mode, in which he moves way faster and spins the nunchucks fast enough to mulch basically anything that walks in front of them.

edit: here is an approximation I found by youtube-ing 'fat nunchucks' to help you visualize it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mE3vOqoR4g
(1:30)

Ddraig posted:

If you right click, he goes full retard and starts swinging them like a maniac and speeds up slightly.
Holy poo poo.

gently caress off everyone, this game owns.

Literal Nazi Furry
Jan 27, 2008

Swastika - Helvetica - Ikea
Last night I dreamt of Adolf searching for Anne.
I lay on my back
standing alone in the corner watching the girls dance.

I'm on crystal meth.
I piss in my pants.

Songbearer posted:

Richter looks after his mumsy better than all the other characters and that's the most special ability of all :colbert:


vv He can execute with all the guns and maintain posession of them afterwards. He's best with the shotgun as it expends no ammo and doesn't alert anyone. He also has a special animation for turning rapidly when using a gun which looks rad.

Not only that, but his general aim speed with everything is increased above the other characters since his levels tend to be heavier on the guns than others.

GLAAD trash bags
Jan 4, 2015
Now that I think about it, the justification why the killing punch characters can't pick up weapons in the story is pretty silly. The Son makes the most sense, cause he has to use brass knuckles or something, Tony is just SUPER SWOLE and refuses to not show that off, and Jake with his last mask is too honurabru to pick up weapons while using his goon- tang fighting style.

King Vidiot
Feb 17, 2007

You think you can take me at Satan's Hollow? Go 'head on!

Songbearer posted:

The best part is that he does stupid little flourishes at the start and end, which leads to some amazing moments where he bursts through a door, slaps some people to death with his nunchucks, then flexes them in front of two shotgun barrels the moment before they reduce him to a stain.

And then like every fatty in the game, when he dies he has that stupid toothy grin on his face. :D

Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012

King Vidiot posted:

But where Katamari Damacy refused to die because it's an IP owned by a large publisher, Hotline Miami got to finish conclusively with its sequel and is probably all the better for it.

We love Katamari was a far more robust sequel than HM2 though.

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.

Eaten by Tigers posted:

Now that I think about it, the justification why the killing punch characters can't pick up weapons in the story is pretty silly. The Son makes the most sense, cause he has to use brass knuckles or something, Tony is just SUPER SWOLE and refuses to not show that off, and Jake with his last mask is too honurabru to pick up weapons while using his goon- tang fighting style.

Tony also uses giant spiked knuckles, as per the comics.

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GenderSelectScreen
Mar 7, 2010

I DON'T KNOW EITHER DON'T ASK ME
College Slice
Stop comparing sequels to other sequels. It's just sad.

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