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Spookydonut
Sep 13, 2010

"Hello alien thoughtbeasts! We murder children!"
~our children?~
"Not recently, no!"
~we cool bro~

flosofl posted:

Yeah, that's pretty much exactly how you do it to do work on foundations or to add elevation supports for flood prone areas. Being that high I'm going to guess they're adding a lower level to allow storm surges to wash through without wiping out the living area or washing away the house altogether. Say like a carport and storage areas. I know that FEMA charges a 10x premium if your house isn't elevated enough in risk areas. So instead of flood insurance costing you $3600/yr it will cost $36,000/yr.

Why even give insurance in flood plains?

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Frozen Horse
Aug 6, 2007
Just a humble wandering street philosopher.

Spookydonut posted:

Why even give insurance in flood plains?

Because rich assholes like having you pay for their vacation homes on the beach, and they can lobby like they're unlucky farmers in river valleys.

hailthefish
Oct 24, 2010

And also because not every potential flood risk area is literally on a beach. Though it's mostly rich assholes pretending they're unlucky saps.

There are still actual unlucky saps, though.

JB50
Feb 13, 2008

hailthefish posted:

And also because not every potential flood risk area is literally on a beach.

Some places only flood like once every 100 years as well.

Minera
Sep 26, 2007

All your friends and foes,
they thought they knew ya,
but look who's in your heart now.


Peanut President
Nov 5, 2008

by Athanatos

Spookydonut posted:

Why even give insurance in flood plains?

If you live inland near a river, everywhere is a floodplain. St Louis, Cincinnati, Memphis, New Orleans, all in flood plains.

Ignimbrite
Jan 5, 2010

BALLS BALLS BALLS
Dinosaur Gum

no no no no no no no no no no

SnowblindFatal
Jan 7, 2011

The porch has no floor.

Spookydonut
Sep 13, 2010

"Hello alien thoughtbeasts! We murder children!"
~our children?~
"Not recently, no!"
~we cool bro~

Peanut President posted:

If you live inland near a river, everywhere is a floodplain. St Louis, Cincinnati, Memphis, New Orleans, all in flood plains.

I live in a city that has legislation preventing people building in dumb places.

quote:

``Perth hasn't allowed development in the flood plains to the same extent as what has happened in Brisbane,'' a WA Bureau of Meteorology spokesman said.

``Because we have had legislation to keep people above the one per cent flood level (one-in-100-year flood level), there are still areas that will be flooded, but it won't be to the extent of Brisbane.''

``Can we have a very, large extreme flood? Yes, for sure, but in Brisbane nearly all of the houses that were inundated were below the one per cent flood level.''

http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/would-perth-cope-with-100-year-flood/story-e6frg19l-1225988360374

Crankit
Feb 7, 2011

HE WATCHES
In my town there's an area that floods roughly every 2 years there's a small flood (5 inches of water all around) and 10 years there's a bigger flood (upto 4 ft) near the river, but there's also a bunch of businesses there because its where the railway line used to run through town, so they're all on stilts about 4-6ft high with steps into the buildings.

I used to work there and any time it did flood there was a funny process that you could see unfold where people look out a window and see a flood startting and they panic, you see them leave the building and then they look at a small amount of water, look at the stilts and think, ah we'll be fine in a building on stilts. Then a little bit later they'd see the water has risen and someone says "uh but what about the cars" and they run to the other window and look at water that's now beginning creep up the carpark which causes panic moment 2.

Jabor
Jul 16, 2010

#1 Loser at SpaceChem
If you built a house in an area with a high chance of flooding, insurance against that eventually is exactly the sort of thing you should be interested in buying. And if there's a lot of demand for it, there's probably someone interested in selling it. The insurance company charges an amount commensurate with the risk of it happening, and the expected damages if it does happen, and in exchange for shouldering the risk expects to make a reasonable profit when that's amortized alongside all the other "risky" things it's insuring.

The government subsidizing those insurance costs is kind of screwy though, unless the elevated risk was caused by something the government did after the buildings were constructed.

Peanut President
Nov 5, 2008

by Athanatos

Spookydonut posted:

I live in a city that has legislation preventing people building in dumb places.


http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/would-perth-cope-with-100-year-flood/story-e6frg19l-1225988360374

I don't know about in Australia but when a river goes from 22 to 53 feet (~30 foot/10 meters difference) everywhere is a floodplain.

Peanut President fucked around with this message at 12:17 on Mar 17, 2015

Meowbot
Oct 12, 2005

I havent had a plrecription for my eyes in years so the other day I went and got a new one and it hasnt changed. The doctor was like why havent you seen us in 4 years? I told them im scared of op tomietris when the air shoots into your eyes and dilation. They told me my eyes cold get worse....

Leperflesh posted:

I loving love this photo. It's telling a whole story, isn't it. Like that famous (possibly apocryphal) bet someone supposedly once made to Hemmingway, that he couldn't tell a whole story in six words, to which he allegedly responded:


You just have to look at that chainsaw and let your imagination fill in the story.

Oh no: my chainsaw, im hosed

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT

Looking at that uninsulated addition; is that kastein's home?

adding some content for a good time. I'm terrified of BLEVEs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gI0qU4EZbS8

Wasabi the J fucked around with this message at 13:43 on Mar 17, 2015

zedprime
Jun 9, 2007

yospos

Spookydonut posted:

Why even give insurance in flood plains?
Insuring a geologic flood plain is pretty easy money because barring anything much crazier happening with global warming, you know exactly how often the areas going to get hosed up based on elevations and silt deposits. The sob stories end up because anything that isn't beach front and in 100 year or less plain ends up being cheap to buy because the middle class understands the insurance will be killer, but the low class sees cheap property but can't pay the flood insurance.

The insurance company sob stories are because we haven't really started to understand what our suburban expansion in the 50s-70s has done so you have public works like roads and storm drains sending water to what should be geologically isolated, and reclaimed wetlands meaning that water must be going somewhere else now.

sloshmonger
Mar 21, 2013

zedprime posted:

Insuring a geologic flood plain is pretty easy money because barring anything much crazier happening with global warming, you know exactly how often the areas going to get hosed up based on elevations and silt deposits. The sob stories end up because anything that isn't beach front and in 100 year or less plain ends up being cheap to buy because the middle class understands the insurance will be killer, but the low class sees cheap property but can't pay the flood insurance.

The insurance company sob stories are because we haven't really started to understand what our suburban expansion in the 50s-70s has done so you have public works like roads and storm drains sending water to what should be geologically isolated, and reclaimed wetlands meaning that water must be going somewhere else now.

That said, why bother taking global warming into consideration when you can just make it illegal?

http://abcnews.go.com/US/north-carolina-bans-latest-science-rising-sea-level/story?id=16913782

Neurion
Jun 3, 2013

The musical fruit
The more you eat
The more you hoot


I don't want to bag all these leaves, so I'm just gonna sweep them under the house.

Say Nothing
Mar 5, 2013

by FactsAreUseless

Haruharuharuko
Mar 24, 2008

Yeah I lied; so what is the truth?

Yawgmoth
Sep 10, 2003

This post is cursed!
At least he's wearing gloves?

MariusLecter
Sep 5, 2009

NI MUERTE NI MIEDO
In the engineers office where I work...


These people went to college
maybe

MariusLecter fucked around with this message at 21:56 on Mar 19, 2015

Propaganda Hour
Aug 25, 2008



after editing wikipedia as a joke for 16 years, i ve convinced myself that homer simpson's japanese name translates to the "The beer goblin"

MariusLecter posted:

In the engineers office where I work...


These people went to college
maybe

It might be an inside joke???

Hugh G. Rectum
Mar 1, 2011

Propaganda Hour posted:

It might be an inside joke???

they're just sheets with a fold down the middle

Uthor
Jul 9, 2006

Gummy Bear Heaven ... It's where I go when the world is too mean.
It's an archaic spelling, but valid.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/compleat

C.M. Kruger
Oct 28, 2013

Wasabi the J posted:

Looking at that uninsulated addition; is that kastein's home?

adding some content for a good time. I'm terrified of BLEVEs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gI0qU4EZbS8

At :36, what looks like debris flying off to the left is a actually a entire railway car.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-tUQTw_Vtk

The dash cam video from the Texarkana explosion is pretty :stonk:

quote:

October 15, 2005 – United States – Texarkana, Arkansas, Union Pacific train rear-ends another train, derailing and puncturing a tank car containing propylene. The leak reaches an ignition source at a nearby house, causing a massive explosion and subsequent fire. A 1-mile (1.6 km) radius is evacuated, and one resident is killed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVsxjKJDja4

ExecuDork
Feb 25, 2007

We might be fucked, sir.
Fallen Rib

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HJ-Y8YTo8Q

*insert Star Wars OSHA rant here*

`Nemesis
Dec 30, 2000

railroad graffiti

C.M. Kruger posted:


The dash cam video from the Texarkana explosion is pretty :stonk:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVsxjKJDja4

The full ~10 minute video was better, i liked the build up to the explosion. It seems to have gone completely missing off the internet though :(

Say Nothing
Mar 5, 2013

by FactsAreUseless

C.M. Kruger
Oct 28, 2013

`Nemesis posted:

The full ~10 minute video was better, i liked the build up to the explosion. It seems to have gone completely missing off the internet though :(

Yeah I tried to find it but didn't turn up anything. I hate it when that happens, the full recording of the United Airlines 232 cockpit voice recorder used to be up on Youtube but now there's only a truncated version.

Anyways, in 1982 two (apparently drunken) British soldiers stole a APC (FV432, think a M113) in West Germany, and were then killed when, after escaping multiple roadblocks and eluding police, they stopped on some train tracks and were rammed by a express train, 20> passengers were injured.
http://www.gerdboehmer-berlinereisenbahnarchiv.de/Statistiken/BBU-DR-DB.html

And in 1988, 6 people were killed and 30> injured when two Russian tank crewmen abandoned their T-64 on a railway line in Berlin. According to Google Translate, "the electric locomotive was compressed."
http://www.tagesspiegel.de/berlin/und-dann-stand-der-panzer-auf-dem-gleis/1177806.html

Haruharuharuko
Mar 24, 2008

Yeah I lied; so what is the truth?


Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

PowerBeard
Sep 4, 2011

The stairs will be fine.

Those pants though won't last much longer... :stare:

KoRMaK
Jul 31, 2012



Load bearing pattern.

Queen Gnome
Jul 30, 2006

Her Lawnliness

lmfao. Someone somewhere looked at this and actually thought "yeah. that'll work."

Lazer Monkey
Jan 15, 2005

Queen Gnome posted:

lmfao. Someone somewhere looked at this and actually thought "yeah. that'll work."

People constantly do, it's amazing and how some learn.

fakeaccount
Jun 22, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Haruharuharuko posted:

Ok I'll bite other than powering the wall from another really close wall what could this possibly for?

Double-ender, for robot lesbians.

Minera
Sep 26, 2007

All your friends and foes,
they thought they knew ya,
but look who's in your heart now.
http://imgur.com/a/3YvDJ

When OSHA and Social Media collide.

quote:

Electrician in Denmark gets fired after publishing pictures on FB of how bad the safety is on the metro construction sights he has been working under the past year. He was fired after having a some time off in january due to sickness and later heard from colleagues that the real reason he got fired was because the company didn't want him to ruin anything for them.

Ssthalar
Sep 16, 2007

Minrad posted:

http://imgur.com/a/3YvDJ

When OSHA and Social Media collide.

:denmark:


:stare:

goatsestretchgoals
Jun 4, 2011


you do it

no you do it

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Shazaminator
Oct 11, 2007
The power of Shazam compels you!

MariusLecter posted:

In the engineers office where I work...


These people went to college
maybe

Why do you keep an oversized buttplug next to the additional compleated sheets

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