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The best part of this episode for me was the super villain team tightly squeezed into a booth at the local Dennys and no one paid them any attention.
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Cocks Cable posted:The best part of this episode for me was the super villain team tightly squeezed into a booth at the local Dennys and no one paid them any attention. They are by no means the weirdest group I've seen at a Denny's
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Maxwell Lord posted:Maclachlan is a treasure. He is singlehandedly making the Mary Sue Poots Chronicles watchable Azhais posted:They are by no means the weirdest group I've seen at a Denny's haha Soothing Vapors fucked around with this message at 05:44 on Mar 18, 2015 |
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Mar 18, 2015 05:41
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Angar got nothing on me when I see a stack of flappies I want to down in a hurry.
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Mar 18, 2015 05:54
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Them sitting and planning at Denny's is the moment I realized I wanted a spinoff with them.
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Mar 18, 2015 06:02
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How did some crazy chick who "surgically" grafted scalpels to her fingers make it on the index? Shield brought people back from the dead with alien DNA but couldn't find a dremel and some prosthetics? Lame as hell.
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Mar 18, 2015 06:14
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If you think the x-acto lady was bad wait until you find out what they're holding back. SHIELD just went through old episodes of ripley's believe it or not and tagged all of those people. Next episode they're going to fight a lady who can squirt milk out of her eye and someone who can chew lightbulbs and bits of tin.
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Mar 18, 2015 06:17
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Kheldarn posted:"I am so loving confused... Ah well. Goons will know!" I was thinking the exact same thing, the comic book experts will know wtf is going on! How do they think Coleson got the toolbox? I'm assuming they don't know that Fury is alive, though for a moment I thought we were going to get a big name cameo like Black Widow. I'm glad they're not dragging out the Mac and Bobbi thing, it was almost getting annoying. Though comic book experts, what is the significance of Sky's casts?
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Mar 18, 2015 06:22
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Crunkjuice posted:How did some crazy chick who "surgically" grafted scalpels to her fingers make it on the index? Shield brought people back from the dead with alien DNA but couldn't find a dremel and some prosthetics? Lame as hell. SHIELD-think is "Well, now we have access to a crazy woman with knife-fingers. So if we ever NEED a crazy woman with knife-fingers, we have one. Why deny ourselves that?" SHIELD is an agency of hoarders.
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Mar 18, 2015 06:24
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Jamesman posted:SHIELD-think is "Well, now we have access to a crazy woman with knife-fingers. So if we ever NEED a crazy woman with knife-fingers, we have one. Why deny ourselves that?" Fury told everyone they shot her into the sun.
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Mar 18, 2015 06:28
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The real SHIELD was of course set up by Peggy Carter covertly following her discovery of the Hydra infiltration of the organization during it's creation in the second season finale of Agent Carter.
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Mar 18, 2015 06:30
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J33uk posted:The real SHIELD was of course set up by Peggy Carter covertly following her discovery of the Hydra infiltration of the organization during it's creation in the second season finale of Agent Carter. That would actually be kind of awesome
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Mar 18, 2015 06:44
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This is a really good lead-in to Civil War. If they make Skyedad say these things as a villain, they don't make the plot go into full swing, and they can save the actual, legitimate discussion of it for later, but they get a chance to start commenting on all the issues, all the same.
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Mar 18, 2015 06:46
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I wonder how many episodes it will be before Mack learns that if Hunter walks up and says "Coulson just offered me a job. So what's this secret you're hiding?" it's not a good idea to drag him to your base and reveal everything.
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Mar 18, 2015 07:08
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Well, at least the exact meaning of the two SHIELD birds in the cover art for this episode is now clear.
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Mar 18, 2015 07:21
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Haha, super-secret Shield #2 is a pretty great reveal. It'd be pretty funny if they have way more resources than Coulson. Extra bonus points if Fury is running it, which would be such a Fury move I can't believe I never even thought of it. Hand the reigns to Coulson to be the public face of the new Shield, then go extra super double black ops on the Shield that you're running, so no one can go over your head and launch nukes at cities and what have you.
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Mar 18, 2015 07:36
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How is bolting razor blades to your fingers getting you on the gifted list? Also, Coulson living is not exactly a secret. May: Hey, things have changed, plus Coulson's the director now
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Mar 18, 2015 07:50
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The second SHEILD feels like an attempt to do the one storyline that got them praise again way, way too soon. Two seasons from now it could work but now it feels like they have just one idea what to do with the spy part of the show.
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Mar 18, 2015 08:05
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I don't think this is going to be another "enemy within" situation , where they discover that the organization they put their trust in was rotten to the core. Rather, this will be about differing visions for what SHIELD should be doing, and how it should accomplish it. Like May said, "SHIELD is different now", but we have yet to see exactly how it is different and why it matters. I suspect we're about to. Also, props to Simmons for suggesting that putting people who bolt knives to their fingers on the same list as people who can cause earthquakes with their mind is stupid. So we now get a list of people who will be called "Enhanced". Bets on the rest ending up being called "Inhuman"? 
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Mar 18, 2015 08:13
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The "real" shield is where all the money and resources went after hydra was dealt with. Do you really think that such a massive org with dozens of known and secret sites could just go poof? It didn't. Coulson was left with remnants. The higher ups, the level 8, 9s, whatever are still around and they control most of the resources. They were cut out by Hydra and then again by Fury. Fury needed the true boy scout to run things, to fix things. The 'real' shield is everything that was wrong before. But they still have power, and one thing they are certain of is Coulson should not be director. That's why Mack tried to drive a wedge in the team earlier with his argument: he certainly doesn't think Coulson should be running it... The old guard should.
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Mar 18, 2015 08:38
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Kheldarn posted:Also Also: "May's ex says knows someone that can consult for Shield. He worked worked in the psych department at Culver University. Doc Sampson works in the psych department at Culver University.", which we already covered in the thread, but then: "Isn't Culver University also the place where the Hulk kicked Blonsky into a tree?". Yes. Yes it was. Unless they recast the role the MCU Samson is probably a bit busy with his own show.
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Mar 18, 2015 08:49
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Crunkjuice posted:How did some crazy chick who "surgically" grafted scalpels to her fingers make it on the index? Shield brought people back from the dead with alien DNA but couldn't find a dremel and some prosthetics? Lame as hell. I was wondering that too. I thought they were going to say she just grew razor fingernails naturally, and that was her thing. Like a super lovely Wolverine claw. Hence the need for gloves instead of just cutting the loving things off. She wouldn't even cut it on one of those terrible superhero reality shows. If she didn't cut some dude's throat I'd half think we were supposed to feel sorry for her. As it is she's the winner of one of those "what would be the shittiest superpower?" questions. Maybe Cal should recruit Light Man next, a guy with flashlights fused onto his skin. He can illuminate any room a flashlight could! ED: I also find it hilarious one of the best fighters on the show couldn't just bring her down in 3 seconds.
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Mar 18, 2015 09:24
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Is it just me, or has it been too long since we've seen a Koenig?  Maybe with the return of Ward we'll see one soon.
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Mar 18, 2015 09:42
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J33uk posted:The real SHIELD was of course set up by Peggy Carter covertly following her discovery of the Hydra infiltration of the organization during it's creation in the second season finale of Agent Carter. Peggy Carter confirmed for Hari Seldon.
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Mar 18, 2015 11:03
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Xtanstic posted:Oh man that preview. Edward James Olmos! If you guys are going to keep calling Agent Coop Muad'Dad, then please call Olmos Ghost'Dad. Because that is also from something not very good that most of TVIV seems to have seen.
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Mar 18, 2015 11:18
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Fury actually went to five different people and told them they would be the new leader of Shield. He gave each of them a toolbox, which wont work until you combine all of them. This way he could assure that the fractions which would form the new Shield work together. I can totally see him do something absurd like that.
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Mar 18, 2015 12:08
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One thing I liked about the episode was how the various villain origins worked to make it just a little more comic book-y. Where people can get powers from super steroids or gamma irradiation of tumors.
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Mar 18, 2015 12:19
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I'm thinking that the 'new' second SHIELD is going to tie into Age Of Ultron. Here's why - Maria Hill. She's taken the job with Stark as of the end of Cap 2, and Ultron has to come from somewhere - It's supposed to have been an old, failed/obsolete peacekeeping tech that Stark revives/rejigs, right? Where would that tech/info come from? Fury's hidden toolbox. Hill knows that it's with Coulson. Or, even if she didn't know at the end of WS, she'd still have contacts within Old Shield and be able to use those to Stark's advantage with Fury 'Dead' (does she know he's still alive? I can't recall). But, whatever she knows/suspects/etc, I'm guessing that that's what's going to be the result of 'New' Shield and how the beginnings of Ultron come about - and it would lead into a fitting RDJ appearance and reveal for the movies that Coulson is still alive (and also, if RDJ does appear, hype the show right before the movie for a ratings boost for a strong lead in episode).
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Blazing Ownager posted:Maybe Cal should recruit Light Man next, a guy with flashlights fused onto his skin. He can illuminate any room a flashlight could! Marvel doesn't have the rights to the Deadly Bulb, unfortunately
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Mar 18, 2015 12:31
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I think the villains being really lovely was half of Cal's point. He wanted to show what shield did to even the biggest loser of the gene pool that posed minimal threat to show himself as persecuted. Then he also picked up Angar to make sure he could actually win.
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Mar 18, 2015 13:03
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I thought it was hilarious when Reader (is that his name or is it something we made up? Skyemom called him Gordon I think) was all "You think you're gifted? Heh, okay." to Cal. The CGI for his power is really amazing for a TV show budget too! I want to know what happened to Raina but the promo looks like it'll be all "Real" SHIELD vs Coulson SHIELD in the next episode. Still, eagerly awaiting Coulsons inevitable ace in the hole. Would be out of character for him to not know what's happening under his nose and have a plan for it.
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Mar 18, 2015 13:17
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I'm way more impressed by Cal enhancing himself than Reader inheriting it by genetic accident, so gently caress him. Cal is cool, people that don't like Cal aren't cool. Also the "You're just a science experiment" thing was funny given that so are the Inhumans.
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Mar 18, 2015 13:45
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muscles like this? posted:One thing I liked about the episode was how the various villain origins worked to make it just a little more comic book-y. Where people can get powers from super steroids or gamma irradiation of tumors. And the Inhumans look down upon poor science experience Cal.
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Martout posted:I thought it was hilarious when Reader (is that his name or is it something we made up? Skyemom called him Gordon I think) was all "You think you're gifted? Heh, okay." to Cal. The CGI for his power is really amazing for a TV show budget too! It all makes sense now. Knife finger lady was there to make sure they had the budget for blind Nightcrawler 
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Mar 18, 2015 14:25
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greatn posted:I think the villains being really lovely was half of Cal's point. He wanted to show what shield did to even the biggest loser of the gene pool that posed minimal threat to show himself as persecuted. Then he also picked up Angar to make sure he could actually win. Maybe it's a great way to show the world just how lovely SHIELD is. "Look guys, this poor woman with mental problems that had scalpels grafted to her fingertips...SHIELD could have just, you know, cut the things off...but no, they encase her digits in some kind of hand torture device and keep her around in case they ever decide that they need her for some kind of sick, twisted purpose. This poor lady isn't the villain here, SHIELD is." Apoplexy posted:And the Inhumans look down upon poor science experience Cal. Which is great fun, because the Inhumans are science experiments too, even if they don't see themselves that way.
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:It all makes sense now. Knife finger lady was there to make sure they had the budget for blind Nightcrawler Her finger blades all being horizontal bugged me, ineffective design.
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Mar 18, 2015 14:37
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imperialparadox posted:Maybe it's a great way to show the world just how lovely SHIELD is. It doesn't even begin to make sense. It's not like those gloves would've prevented her from just, you know, picking up a knife and being twice as effective as she would be with her fingernails.
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Mar 18, 2015 15:17
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I don't know, she seemed to have a lot of trouble cutting that steak.
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Mar 18, 2015 15:21
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Bunnita posted:I'm glad they're not dragging out the Mac and Bobbi thing, it was almost getting annoying. Though comic book experts, what is the significance of Sky's casts? Daisy/Quake/Skye wears something similar in the comics as part of her costume. Fitz is probably gonna enhance them and they'll be a way for her to direct and harness her powers. 
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greatn posted:I think the villains being really lovely was half of Cal's point. Are you suggesting that Cal works in the production department of this show? That's pretty meta.
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