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Freudian posted:I might be dumb here, but I don't see how this is like the Euro? Isn't this an alternative to the IMF/World Bank, as opposed to common monetary policy? Yeah, I think maybe he was trying to make a point of the ECB but the only reason ECB supports the failing countries is because of the Euro, if there is a sinking ship within the AIB I doubt China is willing to save it. Not sure what will happen when the tables turn and China's bubble pops, though.
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Lady Galaga posted:Yeah, I think maybe he was trying to make a point of the ECB but the only reason ECB supports the failing countries is because of the Euro, if there is a sinking ship within the AIB I doubt China is willing to save it. Not sure what will happen when the tables turn and China's bubble pops, though. When push comes to shove everyone is going to look to the IMF/World Bank and China's bank won't even be a factor.
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South China morning Post is all over it saying it's egg on the face of the US, but because of this thread I'm not so sure.
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augustus gluten posted:South China morning Post is all over it saying it's egg on the face of the US, but because of this thread I'm not so sure. It's useful for propaganda and feeds a US decline narrative that flies in the face of reality but that's about it.
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RocknRollaAyatollah posted:They're really bad at being corrupt too, on a comical level that includes messing up their own plans by scoring more points than they should have. This is a feat in soccer where games are usually low scoring affairs. Its ok though because theyre pumping extra money into creating a future generation of talent who will go play abroad because of the corruption.
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Freudian posted:I might be dumb here, but I don't see how this is like the Euro? Isn't this an alternative to the IMF/World Bank, as opposed to common monetary policy? The Euro left certain wealthy member states saddled with the debts of others and the World Bank at least is pretty much explicitly geared towards funding loans for infrastructure projects for impoverished nations. No way getting in bed with the Chinese version of that is a bad idea, given their track record vis-a-vis artificially stimulating their own economy by running up debt with unnecessary infrastructure projects.
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Fojar38 posted:It's useful for propaganda and feeds a US decline narrative that flies in the face of reality but that's about it. That applies to the bank and the scmp equally Except the scmp is more about glorious China's rise than us decline
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Gotta wonder what the Party claims to have accomplished on the global stage after the economic reforms, counter world bank or not. Does annexing Tibet count? Or is that already in the 'Always part of our property and any indication that it had to be taken back is filthy hurtful-feelings-generation by [INFERRED FOREIGN POWER]' bin?
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Mar 18, 2015 09:38
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China's economic growth will continue at 7%+ forever! 
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Mar 18, 2015 11:51
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WarpedNaba posted:Gotta wonder what the Party claims to have accomplished on the global stage after the economic reforms, counter world bank or not. Does annexing Tibet count? Or is that already in the 'Always part of our property and any indication that it had to be taken back is filthy hurtful-feelings-generation by [INFERRED FOREIGN POWER]' bin? The pride and joy of Mutual Non-Interference in Other Countries' Affairs. Because that will raise your country's Paradox prestige score 
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Their bad boy score is dangerously high...
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augustus gluten posted:Their bad boy score is dangerously high... At least under such a thick smog blanket your peasants can't spot a comet and cause a stability drop.
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Do we have any idea if the chinese growth numbers are reality based?
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WarpedNaba posted:Gotta wonder what the Party claims to have accomplished on the global stage after the economic reforms, counter world bank or not. Does annexing Tibet count? Or is that already in the 'Always part of our property and any indication that it had to be taken back is filthy hurtful-feelings-generation by [INFERRED FOREIGN POWER]' bin? Generally? Restoring the honor of their country and reversing the century of humiliation.
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Well this happened last week and it's a sign of how uninformed and terrible this thread is that it took a week for someone to get around to posting it. http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-coming-chinese-crack-up-1425659198 a gay idiot who knows so much more than you that you should probably reevaluate your life and net value to this planet posted:Despite appearances, China’s political system is badly broken, and nobody knows it better than the Communist Party itself. China’s strongman leader, Xi Jinping, is hoping that a crackdown on dissent and corruption will shore up the party’s rule. He is determined to avoid becoming the Mikhail Gorbachev of China, presiding over the party’s collapse. But instead of being the antithesis of Mr. Gorbachev, Mr. Xi may well wind up having the same effect. His despotism is severely stressing China’s system and society—and bringing it closer to a breaking point. A bunch of drooling morons flailed their keyboards to the effect that this guy is a dumb idiot, but you didn't even know about him so that makes you a double dumb idiot at least. Arglebargle III fucked around with this message at 14:48 on Mar 18, 2015 |
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what prompted this meltdown, known orientalist arglebargle the third?
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Is that article essentially going "CHINA IS COLLAPSING RIGHT NOW and THIS TIME we REALLY MEAN IT"
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China has many interesting things that are not political, but just culture or living the daily life, maybe if you have free time I can tell you something about it ? : Not all Chinese can afford expensive face surgeries or know hot to fly a kite , but can still live happy life  China have cold winter . Dog can getting colder, especially small dog . Chinese love dog and knitting something . [nsfw]  [/nsfw]Japanese ka tong getting more and more well known in China . Also cosplaying .  Ah, my god! The world very very cruel.......why it never getting better he say . they want him to jump, but i dont think he gonna jump  a beauty god, but next to her is a girl too diaosi . how china have such a contrast? well , i think any country hav eit  come mist or fog or rain or old, we gotta stay active, keep the body health  pandar so famours , cheng du, chongqing both have it  pork feet , chicken feet, what a special treat......we dont waste food like in foreign countｒｙ  her sign say "be fair to staying in zhu ke people ....but i don't think is her sign that causing car accident！！！ well...for now is over . i find more interesting thing to show you and come back later . bye
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People (if we can use the word) were quick to refudiate Shambaugh's thought-excreta: First refudiation relevant details
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I thought you were making fun of him but no, his name is really Shambaugh
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Arglebargle III posted:People (if we can use the word) were quick to refudiate Shambaugh's thought-excreta: That first link is about a snake biting a dude and I'm not sure if this is some kind of metaphor. Have you missed any medication you're taking?
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What is "Zhu ke peoppe"? How do I digg your post?
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Forums Terrorist posted:what prompted this meltdown, known orientalist arglebargle the third? You think this thread deserves better? Freudian posted:Is that article essentially going "CHINA IS COLLAPSING RIGHT NOW and THIS TIME we REALLY MEAN IT"
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Look at how terrible you all are *posts terrible article from terrible publication* ~ ArgleBargle3
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Tom Smykowski posted:Look at how terrible you all are *posts terrible article from terrible publication* ~ ArgleBargle3 You can't emptyquote in D&D.
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Arglebargle III posted:You can't emptyquote in D&D. Lol dang. Also no one mentioned the women's rights activists who were detained the other week, either.
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whatever7 posted:What is "Zhu ke peoppe"? How do I digg your post? People that works in Hsin Zhu science park, in Taiwan.
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Tom Smykowski posted:Lol dang. in China?
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simplefish posted:in China? Ya, on Women's Day. The government was concerned because they're organized groups outside of the Party.
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Arglebargle III posted:You can't emptyquote in D&D. Yes you can just do it
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In my opinion China is not a very good country.
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Fojar38 posted:In my opinion China is not a very good country. I agree.
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This means the ChiCom regime will soon fall.
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Freudian posted:This means the ChiCom regime will soon fall. I hope it never falls because it's the main reason China won't be able to challenge the US or West at large any time soon.
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I just had a lecture from this guy two weeks ago where he gave a preview of the topics in this article. He was very alarmist. Another Sinologist then remarked after he left that Shambaugh is generally more rosy on China than most of his peers.
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Are there any articles in English media yet about the massive private school scam in Xian province? A lot of older Chinese citizens as well as some expats in Canada were scammed into giving the equivalent of 5 billion US dollars to a school over 20 years, with the understanding that it was an investment that gave them a 15% return per year, and then the founder just disappeared. It's not quite a Bernie Madoff level ponzi-scheme, but close. Elderly people are protesting, but the government has no power to track down the guy and is responding to news reports about the scandal by deleting them. Here's some pictures of the protestors trying to bring people's attention to what happened:  
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Bloodnose posted:I just had a lecture from this guy two weeks ago where he gave a preview of the topics in this article. He was very alarmist. I took a class from him and he has many decades of various books and such and is really pretty positive, generally - far from alarmist. Although he did take a trip to China in '11 and came back pretty depressed, I think. So he has probably been trending in this direction for a few years. Regardless of that, he's one of those people whose exists in our DC sphere in such a way that his publicly stated opinion indicates more than just his own feelings, I think. So even if you disagree with him it's still good to be aware that that opinion is out there. Mozi fucked around with this message at 19:28 on Mar 18, 2015 |
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Flashfiction prompt: Write a 500-word work of fiction about the collapse of the CCP as predicted by Shambaugh from the point of view of a street vendor in any province within the mainland.
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Does this guy have any speech/lecture on youtube, I would like to judge how crazy he is myself.
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whatever7 posted:Does this guy have any speech/lecture on youtube, I would like to judge how crazy he is myself. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mhp0XofkeJw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aE66iIUi9U A couple of hour-long lectures. There's a bunch of other stuff on there too, just type his name in.
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