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CAPT. Rainbowbeard posted:Constantly analyzing everything is exactly like dissecting a puppy. Sure, you find out what makes it tick, but it don't tick too good afterwards. Or it's like dissecting a candy, where you figure out what ingredients made you like it but you still get to eat it afterwards.
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OB_Juan posted:C) Mack and Hunter's scuffle was caught on camera, Coulson went fishing to see if anyone else was in on it, given recent events. This one is the least likely. His reaction when Bobbi said Hunter ran off, and Mack went to bring him back showed he had no idea Mack was involved. Up until that point, he probably thought it was Hunter and Bobbi. Now, he's probably thinking it's Hunter, Bobbi, and Mack.
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So, quick question: Are there any gif wizards who can make Muad'dad's eye twitch or something in this? I really want to update my av to it, but it needs something more.
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Ensign_Ricky posted:So, quick question: Are there any gif wizards who can make Muad'dad's eye twitch or something in this? Well, I did make this:  If someone could avatar-size it it might work.
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Mar 18, 2015 23:02
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Great episode all around. All the complainers are wrong. hth
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greatn posted:She's a tenured and published professor of American literary theory, and she IS fun at parties! I see your wife's point and enjoy you pointing it out in the thread Soothing Vapors posted:I don't know why we're using spoiler tags, I used spoilers because I was trying to avoid discussing preview poo poo in case someone wanted to avoid it. V  VPhylodox posted:Well, I did make this: This is great. You should have a variant where he just stands there quaking with rage.
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greatn posted:Women aren't allowed to have an outlet or external display of their feelings, power, or rage, so they focus it internally and end up harming themselves emotionally or in this case physically. It's an interesting read on the character, and I can definitely see the show exploring that idea more in earnest, if only through subtext (Skye/Daisy is a character whose literal identity is subject to the competing whims of male authority figures. So, a "true" self that's beyond either of them, and her internal struggle to embrace or contain it, seems totally appropriate.) As other Marvel characters go, Rogue is about a similar sort of thought: internalized shame and self-loathing over her body, and the need to contain and control it out of fear of its capacity for (sexually-coded) corruption or destruction. The X-Men films take the idea and run with it, using Rogue and her abilities as metaphors for sexual impurity, body dysmorphia, HIV...even abortion in the lovely third one. I'd argue that Jean Grey, as Phoenix, is another character with a similar subtext of contained femininity. My point is, it makes sense AoS might explore the idea, because it's all over other female superhero narratives. Deakul posted:lolwut "I can tell you what topic this show by one of the Whedons *isn't* about : feminism!" Xealot fucked around with this message at 00:34 on Mar 19, 2015 |
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Electromax posted:Or it's like dissecting a candy, where you figure out what ingredients made you like it but you still get to eat it afterwards. Or it's like literary theory, which isn't like that at all. Xealot posted:"I can tell you what topic this show by one of the Whedons *isn't* about : feminism!" It's a valid reading kinda but I think in this specific instance it's a bit overly specific and not exactly the best explanation for what's going on there.
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Mar 19, 2015 00:33
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'One of the Whedons' never means 'the Whedon you give a poo poo about'.
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Mar 19, 2015 01:09
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By which I mean Tom Whedon.
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I know there's the whole Death of the Author thing, but I still think a line needs to be drawn between "it can be viewed as X' and "it is intended to be viewed as X".
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Bruceski posted:I know there's the whole Death of the Author thing, but I still think a line needs to be drawn between "it can be viewed as X' and "it is intended to be viewed as X". I don't disagree. I just mean that, this level of feminist discourse isn't out of left field for the people involved on AoS. Jed Whedon and Maurissa Tancharoen were both staff writers for Dollhouse, at the least. They'd be more interested in it than most showrunners, probably.
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Yeah this isn't some SMG level of deconstruction, it's pretty basic symbolism.
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I didn't watch the teaser for next week, but they have to tell us what the hell they're talking about with "the real SHIELD" or whatever, right? It could be anything 
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greatn posted:Yeah this isn't some SMG level of deconstruction, it's pretty basic symbolism. Its kinda a pretty seperate tangent from 'basic symbolism'. The basic symbolism is just straight she is hurting herself by not confronting her problems, just like everyone. I never really got that shes some representation of a womans struggle, that doesn't really hit anything in her character that would lead me to that point. It's a bit of a leap but not super crazy everyone sees things through their own experiences and all that. EDIT: words are hard.
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myron cope posted:I didn't watch the teaser for next week, but they have to tell us what the hell they're talking about with "the real SHIELD" or whatever, right? It could be anything My guess: Maria Hill.
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Xtanstic posted:This is great. You should have a variant where he just stands there quaking with rage. Okay.  I'm not very good at optimizing it or whatever, so the file size is probably huge.
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Mar 19, 2015 02:20
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Yessssssss. They're going full Hyde with Hyde. And he mentioned he's still "tinkering with his formula," he's gonna lovin this poo poo, haters vacate
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I hope he just gets super strong and maybe a bit veiny at the most. I don't believe they could make him do proper hulk-out without it looking dumb and subtractng from the actor's performance.greatn posted:Yeah this isn't some SMG level of deconstruction, it's pretty basic symbolism. If you accept suppressing emotions and deflecting as a uniquely or even typically female issue, I suppose. I don't, though. That poo poo's everywhere.
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The Sharmat posted:I hope he just gets super strong and maybe a bit veiny at the most. I don't believe they could make him do proper hulk-out without it looking dumb and subtractng from the actor's performance. Oh come now, who ever heard of a man being told not to be emotionally open and expressive, or to just shove it down deeper. Don't be absurd. What do you think the phrase "Be A Man" even means?
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Dan Didio posted:'One of the Whedons' never means 'the Whedon you give a poo poo about'. If you can't have the Whedon you tolerate, tolerate the Whedon you're with.
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myron cope posted:I didn't watch the teaser for next week, but they have to tell us what the hell they're talking about with "the real SHIELD" or whatever, right? It could be anything There's a remake of FX's The Shield, and Mac and Bobbi are actors undercover as world police cops to get a better understanding of their roles. They just brought Hunter to the set where they're going to try and make him Union. Next episode guest stars Michael Chiklis
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Favorite part was Cal getting mega-butthurt when No Eyes called him a science experiment and told him to leave
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hiddenriverninja posted:Favorite part was Cal getting mega-butthurt when No Eyes called him a science experiment and told him to leave I can't believe they passed up the opportunity to have him walk away to sad Hulk music. I mean I know it's thematically inappropriate but come on.
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Inkspot posted:If you can't have the Whedon you tolerate, tolerate the Whedon you're with. Or don't (refrain)
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You know, there being a second SHIELD would actually explain what Hawkeye and Black Widow's statuses are now. I mean, yeah, they're Avengers as well, but do they still answer to Fury on any level?
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hiddenriverninja posted:Favorite part was Cal getting mega-butthurt when No Eyes called him a science experiment and told him to leave Did I miss some after credits section or something? I saw it end on the double super secret SHIELD reveal and don't remember Reader/no-eyes guy being in the episode aside from when he dropped by to pick up Cal from the football field.
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VodeAndreas posted:Did I miss some after credits section or something? I saw it end on the double super secret SHIELD reveal and don't remember Reader/no-eyes guy being in the episode aside from when he dropped by to pick up Cal from the football field. It seems like you did miss a scene at the very end. Reader (I think that's his name? Blind Nightcrawler with the fun teleportation SFX) comes into a room that's been torn to poo poo where Cal is being kept, asks him if he's done, then tells him that he's being annoying and drawing too much attention when Cal asks why the hell they dragged him off instead of taking Skye to help her out. Also explicitly calls him out as a science experiment and not an Inhuman or otherwise related to them. General implication is that they've been aware of Cal for a while (and vice-versa) and aren't terribly enthused with his eagerness. Or, you know, his craziness.
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Ensign_Ricky posted:You know, there being a second SHIELD would actually explain what Hawkeye and Black Widow's statuses are now. I mean, yeah, they're Avengers as well, but do they still answer to Fury on any level? Yes, but out of loyalty to Fury, not SHIELD.
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I bet The R.E.A.L. S.H.I.E.L.D. is a thing just so they can have S.H.I.E.L.D. in Age of Ultron without explaining why Coulson is alive and other such things.
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GigaPeon posted:I bet The R.E.A.L. S.H.I.E.L.D. is a thing just so they can have S.H.I.E.L.D. in Age of Ultron without explaining why Coulson is alive and other such things. Probably this yeah. It's also quite plausible in that SHIELD was a gargantuan organisation and that there'd be more players than Coulson looking to restore it. The writers have earned my trust this season so it'll probably be good too and no show suffers from having Olmos in it. I REALLY do want more Inhumans stuff though! The show is firing on all cylinders atm but Blindcrawler & Co. are more interesting and fresh than the spy-stuff
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I kind of hate Edward James Olmos because I go to breakfast with my family every Saturday, and at one restaurant we almost always get this guy that looks like young Edward James Olmos and he is the god drat worst and dumbest waiter in town.
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The origami unicorns he's creating out of your checks are a hint that you're a replicant. Hopefully the show makes good use of Olmos. He would certainly have the gravitas for a good villain role.
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No, no, no. S.H.I.E.L.D. is gone, according to forums poster Dan Didio. He's always right, you know.
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Martout posted:no show suffers from having Olmos in it. Well Dexter, but that was hardly Olmos' fault.
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CAPT. Rainbowbeard posted:No, no, no. S.H.I.E.L.D. is gone, according to forums poster Dan Didio. He's always right, you know. Unfortunately, I think we need to hear Barry Convex's thoughts on the matter first.
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I just caught up with Tuesday's episode last night. I'm pretty intrigued by the "Real S.H.I.E.L.D." thing, but as everyone else here, I need more Inhuman stuff. Or hell, even the weird band of misfit genetics disasters would be fun to follow. Although knife fingers lady was bothering me because the scalpels struck me as being pointed the wrong way. Aside from that, her surgical decision was pretty stupid. I also found it funny that the "guy who used to use weird steroids" or whatever was completely useless. He contributed nothing to the group. All that said, I'm going Fitz builds some stuff for Skye to use to harness her powers more effectively.
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