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Vatek
Nov 4, 2009

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Olive Branch posted:

My question is, does transfering ETFs in this manner also count as selling ETFs and triggering capital gains?

It shouldn't, no. Bank or broker-administrated transfers between accounts are not the same as selling the shares.

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slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

Anyone offer a no - fee checking account at a brick and mortar bank anymore?

Min balance OK and only maybe a couple checks a year, mostly for payroll and e paying bills. We already deal with pcf but Mrs. Slidebite wants the ability to go to a branch if necessary.

pseudodragon
Jun 16, 2007


Olive Branch posted:

My question is, does transfering ETFs in this manner also count as selling ETFs and triggering capital gains?

Yup. CRA counts it as you selling the stuff in your non-reg and buying in the rsp so you get the cap gains on the sell and a contribution receipt for the rsp.

Kreez
Oct 18, 2003

All of TDs accounts have fees waived if you're above a minimum balance I think

I park my emergency fund in a TD All Inclusive account (fee waived above 5k) for when I have to do B&M bank stuff. Still use Tangerine for day to day stuff though.

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

Kreez posted:

All of TDs accounts have fees waived if you're above a minimum balance I think

I park my emergency fund in a TD All Inclusive account (fee waived above 5k) for when I have to do B&M bank stuff. Still use Tangerine for day to day stuff though.

Thanks, looks like most do or at least offer something. I'll do some research.

tuyop
Sep 15, 2006

Every second that we're not growing BASIL is a second wasted

Fun Shoe
Has anyone received their tax slips from Questrade yet? I've got the message in My Questrade about the tax slips, but the page is unpopulated for both 2014 and 2013, and I definitely have some slips from 2013. Should I contact them about this yet?

Mantle
May 15, 2004

slidebite posted:

Anyone offer a no - fee checking account at a brick and mortar bank anymore?

Min balance OK and only maybe a couple checks a year, mostly for payroll and e paying bills. We already deal with pcf but Mrs. Slidebite wants the ability to go to a branch if necessary.

Coast capital savings, although technically not a bank.

If you need only a few cheques, you can get 12 temporary ones for $2 instead of ordering permanent ones. Banks won't do that for you.

Kal Torak
Jul 17, 2003

When Giles sends me on a mission, he says "please". And afterwards I get a cookie.

Vatek posted:

It shouldn't, no. Bank or broker-administrated transfers between accounts are not the same as selling the shares.

This is not true. Transferring from unregistered to registered is a deemed disposal and repurchase. If you had a gain, you are obligated to report the capital gain. If you had a loss, it is superficial and you can never report it.

Kal Torak fucked around with this message at 04:01 on Mar 18, 2015

Kal Torak
Jul 17, 2003

When Giles sends me on a mission, he says "please". And afterwards I get a cookie.

tuyop posted:

Has anyone received their tax slips from Questrade yet? I've got the message in My Questrade about the tax slips, but the page is unpopulated for both 2014 and 2013, and I definitely have some slips from 2013. Should I contact them about this yet?

I've received all my slips from them. They should be there.

Saltin
Aug 20, 2003
Don't touch

Kal Torak posted:

This is not true. Transferring from unregistered to registered is a deemed disposal and repurchase. If you had a gain, you are obligated to report the capital gain. If you had a loss, it is superficial and you can never report it.

This is why you never transfer stock in a captial loss position "in kind" to a registered account. You sell, claim your loss, and transfer the cash. You need to adhere to superficial loss rule, of course, so you can't buy the same security for 30 days inside the registered account.

Reggie Died
Mar 24, 2004

Kal Torak posted:

This is not true. Transferring from unregistered to registered is a deemed disposal and repurchase. If you had a gain, you are obligated to report the capital gain. If you had a loss, it is superficial and you can never report it.

So I should probably just contribute to my RSP on a monthly basis instead of holding the contributions in an unregistered account until the end of the year?

Kal Torak
Jul 17, 2003

When Giles sends me on a mission, he says "please". And afterwards I get a cookie.

Reggie Died posted:

So I should probably just contribute to my RSP on a monthly basis instead of holding the contributions in an unregistered account until the end of the year?

I'm not going to tell you not to invest. If the market is up, you won't have to worry about capital losses. If you have any funds in a loss position, sell it, claim the loss, transfer the cash and repurchase something else in your RSP.

big shtick energy
May 27, 2004


My broker is feeling a little bit slow, so I wanted to know how this compares.

I'm with Qtrade, and currency conversion of cad to usd (just cash, not Norbert's or anything) takes a few hours to go through, and after 1pm it doesn't go until the next business day, apparently. I've also done cash contributions to a tfsa and rrsp, and over 24 hrs later they still haven't actually gone through. Does that seem oddly slow to anyone?

Kal Torak
Jul 17, 2003

When Giles sends me on a mission, he says "please". And afterwards I get a cookie.

DuckConference posted:

My broker is feeling a little bit slow, so I wanted to know how this compares.

I'm with Qtrade, and currency conversion of cad to usd (just cash, not Norbert's or anything) takes a few hours to go through, and after 1pm it doesn't go until the next business day, apparently. I've also done cash contributions to a tfsa and rrsp, and over 24 hrs later they still haven't actually gone through. Does that seem oddly slow to anyone?

No.

Franks Happy Place
Mar 15, 2011

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slidebite posted:

Thanks, looks like most do or at least offer something. I'll do some research.

I use TD All Inclusive and it's a pretty sweet deal. Free safe deposit box, domestic checking, U.S. checking, and travel rewards Visa all included, fee waived for minimum balance etc.

I like the TD Rewards card because you can use your credit on any travel related expense you want. No Aeroplan-style bullshit, just "Buy plane tickets/rent car/book hotel, submit request, get points converted to credit on your statement".

big shtick energy
May 27, 2004



Maybe I've just gotten used to online checking/saving accounts, where transferring cash between two of your accounts at the same institution is instant.

lol internet.
Sep 4, 2007
the internet makes you stupid
drat, I already submitted my tax and I received another RRSP receipt today saying for the taxation year 2014, but months Jan-Feb 2015 I put in 1170.

I am assuming I should amend my tax for 2014 to add this as the money is already in the RRSP account? Or can I just claim it next year?

I didn't realize this was coming but now that I think about it, it makes sense as I am on a company plan which adds bi-monthly.

lol internet. fucked around with this message at 23:18 on Mar 18, 2015

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007
Probation
Can't post for 5 hours!
So I only got tax poo poo for my non TSFA investments. No where on any of my taxes (yay simpletax it was fun!) did I make ANY mention of my TFSA. Did I do things right or am I going to jail?

Jan
Feb 27, 2008

The disruptive powers of excessive national fecundity may have played a greater part in bursting the bonds of convention than either the power of ideas or the errors of autocracy.
It is a Tax Free Savings Account. It's registered so you don't invest more than you should, but that registration isn't handled through income tax.

Mantle
May 15, 2004

lol internet. posted:

drat, I already submitted my tax and I received another RRSP receipt today saying for the taxation year 2014, but months Jan-Feb 2015 I put in 1170.

I am assuming I should amend my tax for 2014 to add this as the money is already in the RRSP account? Or can I just claim it next year?

I didn't realize this was coming but now that I think about it, it makes sense as I am on a company plan which adds bi-monthly.

I would just claim it next year cause I don't like the CRA looking at my returns more than they have to.

Baronjutter posted:

So I only got tax poo poo for my non TSFA investments. No where on any of my taxes (yay simpletax it was fun!) did I make ANY mention of my TFSA. Did I do things right or am I going to jail?

It's normal not to receive any slips for your registered TFSA account. What you should do to be prudent is log into your CRA Myaccount and verify the numbers that your TFSA financial institution reported to CRA match your TFSA transaction records.

Rick Rickshaw
Feb 21, 2007

I am not disappointed I lost the PGA Championship. Nope, I am not.

Mantle posted:

I would just claim it next year cause I don't like the CRA looking at my returns more than they have to.

But to claim it for 2015 wouldn't he have to at least enter it in as a contribution for 2014, and carry forward the the unused amount for claiming in 2015? Since it was a contribution made in the first 60 days of 2015, I'm pretty sure it has to be entered in 2014 but the claim can be carried forward to 2015 (just like any other contribution).

I think the first-60-days rule throws people off. It did me for quite some time. It's not as special a rule as one might think. My understanding is that the first 60 days of the year are basically still considered the previous tax year for RRSP contribution purposes. You can choose to claim a contribution made in the first 60 days in either year, but that's not any different from making a contribution in the first 12 months of the year anyway. And any contributions made in the first 60 days are supposed to be reported in the previous year, I think. Correct me if I'm wrong.

In summary, your choice is what year to claim the contribution it in, not what year it gets reported in. This guy explains it better than me.

Rick Rickshaw fucked around with this message at 17:18 on Mar 19, 2015

Kal Torak
Jul 17, 2003

When Giles sends me on a mission, he says "please". And afterwards I get a cookie.

Rick Rickshaw posted:

But to claim it for 2015 wouldn't he have to at least enter it in as a contribution for 2014, and carry forward the the unused amount for claiming in 2015? Since it was a contribution made in the first 60 days of 2015, I'm pretty sure it has to be entered in 2014 but the claim can be carried forward to 2015 (just like any other contribution).

I think the first-60-days rule throws people off. It did me for quite some time. It's not as special a rule as one might think. My understanding is that the first 60 days of the year are basically still considered the previous tax year for RRSP contribution purposes. You can choose to claim a contribution made in the first 60 days in either year, but that's not any different from making a contribution in the first 12 months of the year anyway. And any contributions made in the first 60 days are supposed to be reported in the previous year, I think. Correct me if I'm wrong.

In summary, your choice is what year to claim the contribution it in, not what year it gets reported in.

This is correct. You can't just "claim it next year". You would have to file a T1-Adj to record the contribution and then decide whether you want to deduct it in 2014 or carry it forward for 2015.

Mantle
May 15, 2004

Ah I read it as he had already reported the contribution. Either way he will have to make an adjustment.

lol internet.
Sep 4, 2007
the internet makes you stupid
I ended up re-adjusting on the CRA website. Was pretty straight forward. Hopefully I get a little bit of money back. (Added $1170 to the total.)

Thanks!

Olive Branch
May 26, 2010

There is no wealth like knowledge, no poverty like ignorance.

How can I tell StudioTax (or the government) that I want to get my RRSP deductions refunded to me and deposited on my account rather than carry it forward? I am a poor goon so I don't earn enough to max out both my RRSP and TFSA, plus the US government wants its cut.

Incidentally, what free tax return software do you all recommend? I've been using StudioTax for the past few years but it can sure be muddled at times.

Mantle
May 15, 2004

Olive Branch posted:

How can I tell StudioTax (or the government) that I want to get my RRSP deductions refunded to me and deposited on my account rather than carry it forward? I am a poor goon so I don't earn enough to max out both my RRSP and TFSA, plus the US government wants its cut.

Incidentally, what free tax return software do you all recommend? I've been using StudioTax for the past few years but it can sure be muddled at times.

I don't quite understand your question. However, https://simpletax.ca/ has a cool RRSP calculator that gives you a 1 click calculation on how much of your contributions you need to claim in order to have 0 tax owing. Or you can just claim the entire contribution to maximize your return, if that's what you are asking.

Kal Torak
Jul 17, 2003

When Giles sends me on a mission, he says "please". And afterwards I get a cookie.

Olive Branch posted:

How can I tell StudioTax (or the government) that I want to get my RRSP deductions refunded to me and deposited on my account rather than carry it forward? I am a poor goon so I don't earn enough to max out both my RRSP and TFSA, plus the US government wants its cut.

Incidentally, what free tax return software do you all recommend? I've been using StudioTax for the past few years but it can sure be muddled at times.

I'm not sure I understand the RRSP question. The program default should be to have all RRSP contributions deducted from your income.

There's been a lot of discussion on tax return software so you may want to read back a few pages. I'm really impressed by Simpletax.ca. It's very slick.

Olive Branch
May 26, 2010

There is no wealth like knowledge, no poverty like ignorance.

Well, I am getting a refund of around a thousand bucks, but I was wondering if this refund, found under the Summary tab, is taking into account my RRSP contributions plus the carried-over amount from 2013. If the refund I'm getting already adds that up in its calculations, then it's all good.

Kal Torak
Jul 17, 2003

When Giles sends me on a mission, he says "please". And afterwards I get a cookie.

Olive Branch posted:

Well, I am getting a refund of around a thousand bucks, but I was wondering if this refund, found under the Summary tab, is taking into account my RRSP contributions plus the carried-over amount from 2013. If the refund I'm getting already adds that up in its calculations, then it's all good.

You are going to have to dig into the schedules (sorry, I don't know Studio Tax). Look at Schedule 7. Part A shows your contributions and unused amounts carried forward from 2013. Then Part C will show you what is being deducted. Part D shows you what you are carrying forward to next year.

If Part D is zero, then you are good.

Olive Branch
May 26, 2010

There is no wealth like knowledge, no poverty like ignorance.

Kal Torak posted:

You are going to have to dig into the schedules (sorry, I don't know Studio Tax). Look at Schedule 7. Part A shows your contributions and unused amounts carried forward from 2013. Then Part C will show you what is being deducted. Part D shows you what you are carrying forward to next year.

If Part D is zero, then you are good.
I went where you're talking about, but Part D isn't zero. It's around 5,000. I'm guessing that ain't normal?

EDIT: Oh, I think I get it. What this is telling me is, basically, that I could have deposited five grand more in my RRSP in 2014?

Kal Torak
Jul 17, 2003

When Giles sends me on a mission, he says "please". And afterwards I get a cookie.

Olive Branch posted:

I went where you're talking about, but Part D isn't zero. It's around 5,000. I'm guessing that ain't normal?

EDIT: Oh, I think I get it. What this is telling me is, basically, that I could have deposited five grand more in my RRSP in 2014?

Here is a template: http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/E/pbg/tf/5000-s7/5000-s7-14e.pdf

So you're saying you have a balance at Part D, Line 17?

Is it possible your income isn't high enough to use all the RRSP contributions?

To verify, what you have available is at line 9 and what you are deducting is at line 16. If those two aren't the same number, you aren't using all your contributions. And the program is probably calculating that amount for you based on the income you have.

Olive Branch
May 26, 2010

There is no wealth like knowledge, no poverty like ignorance.

Kal Torak posted:

Here is a template: http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/E/pbg/tf/5000-s7/5000-s7-14e.pdf

So you're saying you have a balance at Part D, Line 17?

Is it possible your income isn't high enough to use all the RRSP contributions?

To verify, what you have available is at line 9 and what you are deducting is at line 16. If those two aren't the same number, you aren't using all your contributions. And the program is probably calculating that amount for you based on the income you have.
They're not the same number. I'm not a high earner ($35,000 in 2014, go go teaching salaries) but I still live pretty frugally and save up what I can. According to the CRA my 2014 RRSP deduction limit was around $6,000 and my previous year's carryover was $600. There was an error in 2013's statement where I was entitled to invest $3,000, though, and I'll be fixing that once I get my CRA code.

Still, even considering the missing $3,000, I have no idea why the values at line 9 and 16 are different after adding those missing dollars, and why I'm unable to claim my contributions. I may have to see an accountant or else just double check everything really carefully once I am able to access the CRA website fully.

Kal Torak
Jul 17, 2003

When Giles sends me on a mission, he says "please". And afterwards I get a cookie.

Olive Branch posted:

They're not the same number. I'm not a high earner ($35,000 in 2014, go go teaching salaries) but I still live pretty frugally and save up what I can. According to the CRA my 2014 RRSP deduction limit was around $6,000 and my previous year's carryover was $600. There was an error in 2013's statement where I was entitled to invest $3,000, though, and I'll be fixing that once I get my CRA code.

Still, even considering the missing $3,000, I have no idea why the values at line 9 and 16 are different after adding those missing dollars, and why I'm unable to claim my contributions. I may have to see an accountant or else just double check everything really carefully once I am able to access the CRA website fully.

Yeah, sorry I can't really help you more than that. Not without seeing the rest of the return to find out what is going on.

Reggie Died
Mar 24, 2004
So it appears TD has finally pulled the cash from my credit union TFSA (at least I hope so....it's not showing up in my TD account yet).

Except it appears my credit union is taxing me $50 for the transfer. "Official Check Fee" is the line item listed. And it's put that account at -13.99. So my question is..if I've already contributed up to the max, how do I remedy this?

Sassafras
Dec 24, 2004

by Athanatos
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Sassafras fucked around with this message at 20:34 on Apr 11, 2015

Kalenn Istarion
Nov 2, 2012

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pseudodragon posted:

Yup. CRA counts it as you selling the stuff in your non-reg and buying in the rsp so you get the cap gains on the sell and a contribution receipt for the rsp.

A few days late, but you can elect to make the transfer at original cost, but there are restrictions on when this is allowed that I forget the details of.

n00b
Jul 13, 2006
I have no idea how I hosed this up, but I did. Filed my taxes with TurboTax last weekend, filled in all the required fields and it gave me an estimated tax return of $50. Looked at my account today and see a RIT deposit for over $2,500, and now I'm slightly freaking out.

Double checked my statements, and it definitely says I'm owed $50 only. What the gently caress have I done?

I was on EI for the last part of 2014 but I declared all of the income I received and all the proper deductions were made during my claim, so I have no idea where the extra money is coming from. I'm contacting CRA tomorrow to see wtf is going on, has anyone else had this issue before?

Sassafras
Dec 24, 2004

by Athanatos
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Sassafras fucked around with this message at 20:34 on Apr 11, 2015

n00b
Jul 13, 2006
After asking around, it seems that this could be a re-assessment from a previous year. Apparently you get something in the mail a few days later explaining the deposit, so I feel a little better. Tuition credits is certainly a possibility, since I went back to school full time in 2011-12. Someone made the point that 1 week is nowhere near enough time for a tax return to be processed and refunded, so it looks like unused credits from previous years is the likely cause.

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Kal Torak
Jul 17, 2003

When Giles sends me on a mission, he says "please". And afterwards I get a cookie.

n00b posted:

After asking around, it seems that this could be a re-assessment from a previous year. Apparently you get something in the mail a few days later explaining the deposit, so I feel a little better. Tuition credits is certainly a possibility, since I went back to school full time in 2011-12. Someone made the point that 1 week is nowhere near enough time for a tax return to be processed and refunded, so it looks like unused credits from previous years is the likely cause.

The 1 week point is far from the truth. I filed my return on a Sunday night and my refund was deposited the following Monday morning, one week later.

This is why everyone should have an online account at CRA. You can see all this in real time and check out the assessment after you've filed.

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