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I've been going back and forth with people via email for weeks about a ballot petitions to make Michigan a vote by mail state like Oregon. Instead, the group I've been talking to wants to do ballot petitions for ending gerrymandering and "no-reason" absentee ballots for elections. Right now in Michigan you have to put a reason in writing why you want to vote absentee. No matter what I show them to convince them vote by mail is the way to go, they claim that it doesn't work and it's too complicated. Meanwhile in Oregon, why even bother registering to vote?
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HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:I've been going back and forth with people via email for weeks about a ballot petitions to make Michigan a vote by mail state like Oregon. Instead, the group I've been talking to wants to do ballot petitions for ending gerrymandering and "no-reason" absentee ballots for elections. Right now in Michigan you have to put a reason in writing why you want to vote absentee. No matter what I show them to convince them vote by mail is the way to go, they claim that it doesn't work and it's too complicated. Point out that the SCOTUS is hearing a case on using neutral groups to get rid of gerrymandering and probably going to strike it down, so they should focus their efforts where it won't be moot in a few years
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Mar 19, 2015 02:24
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HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:I've been going back and forth with people via email for weeks about a ballot petitions to make Michigan a vote by mail state like Oregon. Instead, the group I've been talking to wants to do ballot petitions for ending gerrymandering and "no-reason" absentee ballots for elections. Right now in Michigan you have to put a reason in writing why you want to vote absentee. No matter what I show them to convince them vote by mail is the way to go, they claim that it doesn't work and it's too complicated. Why isn't this the default already to begin with? I never understood having to register to vote especially in todays age where everything can be pulled up in seconds from a digital database
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Mar 19, 2015 02:24
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Dr. VooDoo posted:Why isn't this the default already to begin with? I never understood having to register to vote especially in todays age where everything can be pulled up in seconds from a digital database you are given the option when doing federal activities (eg signing up for insurance on the exchange), but otherwise it is states rights
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Mar 19, 2015 02:25
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Dr. VooDoo posted:Why isn't this the default already to begin with? I never understood having to register to vote especially in todays age where everything can be pulled up in seconds from a digital database The Irish. No, really, that's why the US has voter registration. To keep those pesky ethnics from the polls.
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Mar 19, 2015 02:26
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For the April OP
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Huckster laying down some sense about job training programs, but the article ends with a nice little side note.
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Fried Chicken posted:Point out that the SCOTUS is hearing a case on using neutral groups to get rid of gerrymandering and probably going to strike it down, so they should focus their efforts where it won't be moot in a few years Actually, the likely ruling would strike down all three petitions, as a citizen initiative to require mail-in ballots would be just as infringing on the "right" of the legislature to determine the "manner" of elections as citizen initiatives for redistricting will soon be. In other words, all citizen initiatives regarding election law (EDIT: that doesn't explicitly leave federal elections unchanged or require legislative approval of such changes) will be unconstitutional, not just redistricting. ComradeCosmobot fucked around with this message at 02:50 on Mar 19, 2015 |
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Mar 19, 2015 02:45
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Joementum posted:Here's the background on the Norquist / NRA imbroglio. Wayne is in a bind because the NRA is essentially a Tea Party group now, so he has to pay lip service to Gaffney's racist idiocy, but wants to maintain the veneer of respectability that Grover gives him. A fight with the NRA on one side and Norquist on the other is wonderful. I hope they go scorched earth on each other but the reality is the NRA will probably find the claims baseless and that some Obama liberal gun hater tricked Gaffney or something. Even just seeing Norquist and his stupid group/pledge get destroyed would be a thing of beauty. Everblight posted:Pictured: The modern GOP Does this mean that the Tea Party and its brothers, the Libertarian Party and the Constitutional Party, are going to imprison the GOP and take over?
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Prester John posted:This is a batshit Fundy thing. Jacob and Esau were both sons of Isaac. Its kind of a weird tale, wikipedia has decent write up. which is loving dumb because per both Islam and Judaism, Islam is descended from Ishmael, Jacob's uncle
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Well, surprise, surprise, surprise, the House Budget process is in the middle of blowing up because defense hawks want to add $2b in military spending without a pay-for and deficit-hawks don't like that one bit. The House budget committee markup is now in recess, subject to the call of the chair, at 10pm on a Wednesday. 
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Mar 19, 2015 03:15
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Fried Chicken posted:For the April OP loving strawberita is #20? Burn it all down.
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Joementum posted:Well, surprise, surprise, surprise, the House Budget process is in the middle of blowing up because defense hawks want to add $2b in military spending without a pay-for and deficit-hawks don't like that one bit. It's interesting to see how they handle having someone to fight against that isn't going to capitulate immediately like the dems usually do.
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Joementum posted:Well, surprise, surprise, surprise, the House Budget process is in the middle of blowing up because defense hawks want to add $2b in military spending without a pay-for and deficit-hawks don't like that one bit. Man, if there is anything this country really needs, its $2 billion more dollars spent on the military.
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The female market is severely underutilized in beer, so a beer marketed towards women makes sense in a top 20 ranking. It's different in the craft beer market but that is still very much a niche market (though it is, far and away, the fastest growing segment of the market). Kudos to loving Corona, though. When it first entered the US market, it was sold as a bargain-bin beer. Nobody would buy it because "Mexican beer is dirty". So, they rebranded themselves as a premium beer and marketed the poo poo out of themselves. Thirty-odd years later, they are loving #5. PBR and Yuengling speak well to the millennial market, though. I'd be curious to see a gender and age breakdown.
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Mar 19, 2015 03:31
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Man it's gonna be awesome when the Second Vermont Republic is realized and we can start charging you rubes tariffs on our superior craft beers. 
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Mar 19, 2015 03:33
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Joementum posted:Man it's gonna be awesome when the Second Vermont Republic is realized and we can start charging you rubes tariffs on our superior craft beers. As a Californian I am unconcerned.
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Mar 19, 2015 03:34
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JonathonSpectre posted:Man, if there is anything this country really needs, its $2 billion more dollars spent on the military. I feel like at this point we should just take the Eisenhower route and claim all essential spending is "military." Infrastructure upgrades? Vital for troop movements if we're ever invaded. Medicare for all? Can't recruit troops from an unhealthy population! Immigration? Gotta keep our population up, so the commies don't overwhelm us!
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Mar 19, 2015 03:36
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Joementum posted:Man it's gonna be awesome when the Second Vermont Republic is realized and we can start charging you rubes tariffs on our superior craft beers. name one
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Mar 19, 2015 03:36
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Days away from Bell's Oberon hitting the seasonal market. PBR my rear end.
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Mar 19, 2015 03:37
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:name one Can you ferment maple syrup?
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oh god, a craft beer derail. the thread may never recover.
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Mar 19, 2015 03:51
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Joementum posted:Man it's gonna be awesome when the Second Vermont Republic is realized and we can start charging you rubes tariffs on our superior craft beers. sorry no one cares about vermont craft brews when you're right next to NY, MA, NH, ME
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Fried Chicken posted:For the April OP
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Getting back on track, word on the street (as of a half hour ago) is still that the House Budget committee wants to resume its session tonight, assuming that its Republican members can find some way out of this funding split. Meanwhile, the Democrats on the committee are just leaning waaaaaay back.
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Bonus quote for today:Barack Obama posted:You’ve got one side that is denying the facts, who are often motivated, principally, by opposing whatever it is that I propose,” TP Article http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2015/03/18/3635504/obama-vice-interview/ And the actual VICE interview: https://news.vice.com/video/president-barack-obama-speaks-with-vice-news
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joeburz posted:sorry no one cares about vermont craft brews when you're right next to NY, MA, NH, ME Hill farmstead is awesome On topic, I like the budget cluster, but I guess none of the presidential hopefuls have to get their hands dirty emdash fucked around with this message at 04:18 on Mar 19, 2015 |
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Mar 19, 2015 04:09
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Joementum posted:Getting back on track, word on the street (as of a half hour ago) is still that the House Budget committee wants to resume its session tonight, assuming that its Republican members can find some way out of this funding split. I thought the point of Republicans controlling both chambers of Congress was for them to get awful legislation (but not so awful that you don't get the one or two blue dogs you need to call the bill bipartisan) to Obama's desk, so he's constantly vetoing poo poo and the GOP gets to call him THE REAL OBSTRUCTIONIST so as to get the American masses to vote R in the 2016 general. Was this clusterfuck actually expected? Is this how things went from 1994 to 2000? Or is the GOP irreparably incompetent?
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GhostofJohnMuir posted:As a Californian I am unconcerned. As a Michigander, I am also unconcerned. HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:Days away from Bell's Oberon hitting the seasonal market. PBR my rear end. Man, there are, like, a dozen beers out of Michigan better than Oberon. CroatianAlzheimers fucked around with this message at 04:22 on Mar 19, 2015 |
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:Okay, help me out here. Objection! Asked and answered.
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:Okay, help me out here. The meme about the GOP always voting in lockstep is exaggerated, to say the least.
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Dammit, quote=/=edit
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Mar 19, 2015 04:18
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:Okay, help me out here. The GOP is seriously considering Scott Walker, so yes.
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Mar 19, 2015 04:27
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computer parts posted:The meme about the GOP always voting in lockstep is exaggerated, to say the least. Yeah, the GOP is currently split between the "no legislation" wing and the "bad legislation" wing.
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Mar 19, 2015 04:35
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computer parts posted:The meme about the GOP always voting in lockstep is exaggerated, to say the least. It was a real thing to some extent prior to 2010 but it's absolutely not the case now.
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Mar 19, 2015 04:37
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The dems are far, far more in lock step than the Republicans have ever been since Obama took office. Turns out demonizing the other party makes the other party a lot more close knit.
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Fried Chicken posted:For the April OP There is exactly only one (1) good beer on that list. Holy poo poo, America.
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Venom Snake posted:The dems are far, far more in lock step than the Republicans have ever been since Obama took office. Turns out requiring far more ideological adherence makes a party more close knit, too, but that's what their primaries have become.
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Maybe before the 2010 Tea Party wave took office, the difference between the bad legislation and no legislation wings of the GOP functionally didn't matter as much as they did once they actually got into power.
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:There is exactly only one (1) good beer on that list. Holy poo poo, America.
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