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Presumably she's using the Venusians in her party as verified witnesses not only for the horrors of the war but also as a test of her ability to pacify the situation, to see if she and her allies can handle bringing order back to the earth sphere before her talks with La Gu can continue with a vested trust. He really doesn't have much reason to trust her outright and even though their talks happened offscreen it seemed to go well enough that he gave her some support, but not all of it. Once the current mess is over if she's still on top she has a way better bargaining position to rebuild the system that broke in the first place. That's just the ending I see with the time we have left though.
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Mar 19, 2015 04:53
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It also helps that most of her direct rivals in positions of power are dead now.
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Mar 19, 2015 05:00
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ImpAtom posted:The Earth was kept in a perpetual infancy where they legitimately did not know about how things were in space due to religious and social taboos and a lack of technology. Their religion is literally called Space Umbilical Cord so it isn't really subtle. It didn't change until Cumpa came to Earth to spin things up and Aida and friends have been trying to figure out the full context and details of what is going on. They literally did not have information and Towsanga only had a little more. But doesn't this conflict with the fact that Bellri and Co knew the names of all the things involved in the transport of photon batteries? They knew that there was the Kashiba Mikoshi, they know that the crescent ship exists, and that it brings batteries to Towasanga. They didn't know the condition at the Venus Globe but the only thing they learned there was that it is lovely there.
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Mar 19, 2015 05:20
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Caros posted:But doesn't this conflict with the fact that Bellri and Co knew the names of all the things involved in the transport of photon batteries? They knew that there was the Kashiba Mikoshi, they know that the crescent ship exists, and that it brings batteries to Towasanga. They didn't know the condition at the Venus Globe but the only thing they learned there was that it is lovely there. The Kashiba Mikoshi exists but as a religious thing. They were aware it existed but treated it as a holy object. The entire Kashiba Mikoshi/Crescent Ship thing was basically a religious ritual. They didn't know about Towasanga. The SU-Cord religion dealt with Towasanga. All other countries were forbidden by religious taboo from even setting up observation of the night sky. (And even the non-religious feared the loss of photon batteries for doing so.) It was Cumpa who broke that stalemate. Remember how shocked Bellri and his mom were about the idea that there might even be invaders from space? The bulk of the stuff they did with Towasanga and Venus Globe was discovering the truth behind religious taboos and the real status of the world. Once they got to Venus Globe they found out that, yeah, all of this religion was basically bullshit and Venus Globe was using to to keep Earth pacified and not much else. It basically went: Earth Sphere is dominated by SU-Cord Religion. Towasanga is dominated by a lesser version of it. The core of the power of SU-Cord is the Photon Battery shipments which they have control over. The Photon Battery Delivery is basically turned into a religious ritual and both Towasanga and Earthlings view it as a literal taboo curse to interfere with it. The taboos that they (Bellri in particular) held sacred are just set up to keep Earthlings pacified and connected to the Space Umbilical Cord. ImpAtom fucked around with this message at 05:31 on Mar 19, 2015 |
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Mar 19, 2015 05:22
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Caros posted:But doesn't this conflict with the fact that Bellri and Co knew the names of all the things involved in the transport of photon batteries? They knew that there was the Kashiba Mikoshi, they know that the crescent ship exists, and that it brings batteries to Towasanga. They didn't know the condition at the Venus Globe but the only thing they learned there was that it is lovely there. lol do you not count dealing with the president as learning
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Mar 19, 2015 05:22
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i missed caros
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Mar 19, 2015 05:22
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ImpAtom posted:The Kashiba Mikoshi exists but as a religious thing. They were aware it existed but treated it as a holy object. The entire Kashiba Mikoshi/Crescent Ship thing was basically a religious ritual. But again... what did that knowledge change things? I mean aside from adding additional factions to kill each other into the mix? Okay, so the people in space who give us batteries are assholes. And? How does that fix anything? How does having talked to La Gu help them when the conversation appears to more or less be "We are people in space who would like to make a lot of batteries" Meh, whatever. Two weeks and we can see whether G-Reco ends with a bang or a wet fart.
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Mar 19, 2015 05:31
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dont even front like you won't come in and post about how much you disliked it no matter what
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Mar 19, 2015 05:34
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Caros posted:But again... what did that knowledge change things? I mean aside from adding additional factions to kill each other into the mix? Okay, so the people in space who give us batteries are assholes. And? How does that fix anything? How does having talked to La Gu help them when the conversation appears to more or less be "We are people in space who would like to make a lot of batteries" The important thing that happened with Aida is that she was given the actual support of La Gu, which is essential for actually changing the Photon Battery monopoly situation. The situation had been set up because he didn't believe humanity could change. She now has the support of the one person who actually can change the Photon Battery situation. Aida was basically following the trail of the Photon Batteries to find its source. She did and now she's in a position to change things if the entire Earth Sphere doesn't goddamn explode in the next two episodes. The breaking of the taboos and the discovering of the real history was more important to Bellri who was a die-hard SU-Cordist at the start and by this point seems to have given up all traces of it in favor of supporting Aida. Aida's basically won, assuming she can stop the war. It's the 'stop the war' part that is going to be the trick. That's why the ending is not likely going to be a giant explosive change because at this point it's kind of about the mopping up. It's almost certainly going to be in the same realm as Gainer's ending for good or ill. I suspect it's probably gonna be a pretty meh ending at best. ImpAtom fucked around with this message at 05:58 on Mar 19, 2015 |
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Mar 19, 2015 05:40
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We still have the moon's equatorial belt of solar panels that turned out not to be the photon battery charging system and never was explained. Maybe Towasanga has a Death Star and/or a bunch of Satellite Cannons.
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Mar 19, 2015 06:50
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I wonder if Klim Nick won't actually turn and will just remain a nominal ally until the end. He was set up to be in direct opposition to Aida and Gusion's ideals but even though he's still a naive warmonger the megafauna still seems to be on good terms with him and Mick Jack. I guess the worst thing you could say about him is that he remained on the sidelines instead of actively fighting the Yggdrassil but in his defense that thing was weird as hell and staying away was the safest option. He can capitalize on Gusion's death but i wonder if he'll take the true antagonistic role or just work together with Aida in the end.
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Mar 19, 2015 12:58
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Sharkopath posted:I wonder if Klim Nick won't actually turn and will just remain a nominal ally until the end. He was set up to be in direct opposition to Aida and Gusion's ideals but even though he's still a naive warmonger the megafauna still seems to be on good terms with him and Mick Jack. He's just had the entire Amerian faction of this standoff fall into his lap. He's gonna make some kind of move.
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Mar 19, 2015 13:07
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Sharkopath posted:I wonder if Klim Nick won't actually turn and will just remain a nominal ally until the end. He was set up to be in direct opposition to Aida and Gusion's ideals but even though he's still a naive warmonger the megafauna still seems to be on good terms with him and Mick Jack. Given that he pretty much said he wants to be king of the world, he's almost certainly going to make a play.
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Mar 19, 2015 14:21
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Midjack posted:Given that he pretty much said he wants to be king of the world, he's almost certainly going to make a play. and, hopefully, fail miserably with Mick Jack bailing him out.
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Mar 19, 2015 14:43
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Klim is gona make a play. It just depends on if the end result of that is 'realizing he hosed up' or 'gets shivved." I don't think he's gonna fight Aida and pals though.
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Mar 19, 2015 14:54
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It would be pretty funny if the Dharma were to be destroyed with such force that the Dahak goes along with it, and we never get a chance to see what it can do.
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Mar 19, 2015 15:18
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sunburnedcrow posted:and, hopefully, Klim Nick for king of the world. The only ending that would be truly satisfying.
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Mar 19, 2015 15:19
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ImpAtom posted:Klim is gona make a play. It just depends on if the end result of that is 'realizing he hosed up' or 'gets shivved." I don't think he's gonna fight Aida and pals though. I dont think he's gonna get shivved. Mick Jack seems to be watching his back as an equal partner to his schemes, so they're probably going down together if their plan goes sideways rather than backstabbing eachother.
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Mar 19, 2015 15:53
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The bloodbath didn't happen.
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Mar 19, 2015 18:17
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I don't think it's going to happen at all, hahaha.
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Mar 19, 2015 18:21
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Sharkopath posted:I don't think it's going to happen at all, hahaha. That is how I've been feeling about the end. Hooray.
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Mar 19, 2015 18:25
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Srice posted:That is how I've been feeling about the end. If it does happen at this point I would retroactively think very poorly of the series because it would come out of nowhere so fast so quickly. It's not what I want in a show like this.
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Mar 19, 2015 18:29
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Same way with manny dying, it's such a bland motivation that's happened so often before in gundam shows even that I would hate it to go that way.
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Mar 19, 2015 18:39
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That is a good point so I rescind my hooray until I see how it all unfolds.
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Mar 19, 2015 18:49
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I think they removed the blood to make room for more well-pronounced English.
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Mar 20, 2015 01:05
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John Carstairs posted:I think they removed the blood to make room for more well-pronounced English. Steer dies and the well-pronouced English decreases while the blood keeps on flowing.
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Mar 20, 2015 03:52
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Sharkopath posted:The bloodbath didn't happen. How do you define bloodbath? Bellri's narration in the preview gives a very clear direction for the ending, looks like this could wrap up very neatly.
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Mar 20, 2015 05:44
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People want all the named characters to die, and they didn't.
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Mar 20, 2015 05:48
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Sharkopath posted:People want all the named characters to die, and they didn't. There's still time for that to happen.
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Mar 20, 2015 05:57
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Neddy Seagoon posted:There's still time for that to happen. They won't because I will protect them.
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Mar 20, 2015 05:58
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I'm going to take a laser bullet for Steer, and also Raraiya, and also Noredo, and also Manny, and also Kerbes, but not for Ringo.
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Mar 20, 2015 05:59
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Steer's the yelly one, right? Yeah, I'd take a bullet laser for her.
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Mar 20, 2015 06:02
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I'd take a bullet laser for the captain of the Megafauna's lady chair.
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Mar 20, 2015 06:44
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Bellri! CRAZY!
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Mar 20, 2015 06:50
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Why do you people not want a happy ending where everyone's okay? 
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Mar 20, 2015 06:54
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Wow, it's actually up early in Australia for once! 
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Mar 20, 2015 06:55
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everythingWasBees posted:Why do you people not want a happy ending where everyone's okay? Oh I totally want a happy ending where it's Luin/Manny and Bellri/Noredo in a double wedding officiated by the Space Pope 4 years in the future. I want it more than anything in the world right now, but I'm just horrified of the possibilities because Tomino is a crazy person.
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Mar 20, 2015 07:00
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It was so weird to see them commenting on the use of wired funnels, but to not have a single person bat an eyelash at pretty much any other time that the regular old newtype only funnels have gotten thrown around. Then again I don't think we've seen a newtype flash through the course of this show so that whole thing is wonky to begin with. Really at this point is it too much to ask for Domon or Master Asia to show up in Guyana and kick the poo poo out of the cast?
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Tell me more about how you want to brutalize teenage girls, Caros.
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