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Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.

Lumberjack Bonanza posted:

Yeah but he didn't make Cell

Also History of Trunks is everything I was hoping for and more.

He started making Cell, then he just left it to the computer. So I guess the computer just registered "Well 17 and 18 aren't doing anything and since they're very powerful, just use them."

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Mordaedil
Oct 25, 2007

Oh wow, cool. Good job.
So?
Grimey Drawer
I was just so happy he passed on his dodge lessons.

Sea Lily
Aug 5, 2007

Everything changes, Pit.
Even gods.

If that was any sort of preview of Buu era TFS Gohan then things are going to be pretty good later on

Arsonist Daria
Feb 27, 2011

Requiescat in pace.

Kelp Plankton posted:

If that was any sort of preview of Buu era TFS Gohan then things are going to be pretty good later on

Well we all know that Adult Gohan is considerably more disappointing and less broken inside than Future Gohan, so I dunno how similar they'll be.

I also forgot that Gohan karate chops the back of Trunk's neck, just like Vegeta does to Goten. Is that like the Saiyan version of the Vulcan nerve pinch?

ZepiaEltnamOberon
Oct 25, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022
Nah, Beerus does it to Goku too.

Josuke Higashikata
Mar 7, 2013


That seriously drove home how much I wish we had gotten Future Gohan instead of Jobber Gohan.

It was maybe a little too serious at times, but it was still very enjoyable throughout. TFS does it again.

Pureauthor
Jul 8, 2010

ASK ME ABOUT KISSING A GHOST
Future Gohan jobbed just as much as Adult Gohan. In fact his character exists for the narrative purpose of getting wrecked and spurring Future Trunks on through that.

Arsonist Daria
Feb 27, 2011

Requiescat in pace.

Pureauthor posted:

Future Gohan jobbed just as much as Adult Gohan. In fact his character exists for the narrative purpose of getting wrecked and spurring Future Trunks on through that.

Better than jobbing to Buu and powering him up.

Josuke Higashikata
Mar 7, 2013


Future Gohan jobbed out and died for good.
Adult Gohan jobbed out, got a hope spot and then jobbed out. And then he got Yamcha'd.

NowonSA
Jul 19, 2013

I am the sexiest poster in the world!

Aurain posted:

Future Gohan jobbed out and died for good.
Adult Gohan jobbed out, got a hope spot and then jobbed out. And then he got Yamcha'd.

Hey now, let's not get crazy. He got Piccolo'd at best, far from a Yamcha.

Unless you're talking about his personality, in which case the Great Saiyaman route is definitely a Yamcha.

I'm also hopeful for Adult/Buu era Gohan, since that voice acting for Gohan in the Trunks special was totally on point. It makes sense since they've been doing DBZA and other projects for years, but the TFS voice actors have gotten pretty good at this whole voice acting thing, go figure. I also just found out via their update that one of them provided a voice for the custom character in Xenoverse, which is all kids of cool. I like to see companies acknowledge fan works in that way, far too often they just get shut down. Attack on Titan abridged could have been glorious, for instance.

SyntheticPolygon
Dec 20, 2013

Aurain posted:

Future Gohan jobbed out and died for good.
Adult Gohan jobbed out, got a hope spot and then jobbed out. And then he got Yamcha'd.

Adult Gohan got to be a superhero, had a stable relationship and eventually got a diploma or something.

Adult Gohan did alright.

Flytrap
Apr 30, 2013
Gohan eventually figured out how to cut that super metal that broke the Z-Sword and published a book about it, teaching everyone how to turn superhuman.

I say he does pretty well.

Pureauthor
Jul 8, 2010

ASK ME ABOUT KISSING A GHOST
I swear half the time I can't tell if TFS are doing a beat for comedic timing or their videoplayer crapped out on me again.

Shinjobi
Jul 10, 2008


Gravy Boat 2k
Gohan is great in everything but GT, though Revival of F could do some damage.:smith:

e X
Feb 23, 2013

cool but crude
’I am stronger than I was before'
'Yeah, also lighter'

NowonSA
Jul 19, 2013

I am the sexiest poster in the world!

Shinjobi posted:

Gohan is great in everything but GT, though Revival of F could do some damage.:smith:

To be fair, after one-shotting Frieza in one of the movies, anything less is going to be a downgrade. He's also higher on the beatdown list because of that, the fans will want to see it go down differently.

I like that Frieza was killed so hard that even the Dragon can't bring him back with a single wish, all he can do is bring back the pieces which get glued together by Frieza Army Science (according to a manga leading up to the film's release). And it helps sell how much effort was needed to kill him in the first place, and it's a neat little wrinkle to me since I never figured the state of a person's body mattered when you're basically asking a Genie to magic them back into existence.

They do bring back everyone on Earth from Space Dust during the Buu saga though, but maybe the Namek dragon is just that much better than the Earth dragon.

The manga also explains why Frieza will be stronger, since he says he never trained a day in his life and just coasted on his own natural abilities, which is a far more sensible reason for him to get a huge power boost than I expected.

So yeah, Revival of F should be pretty drat great, though now I also want to see Revival of C and Revival of B (nevermind that there have been like 1-2 revivals of B, do it right this time!)

EthanSteele
Nov 18, 2007

I can hear you

NowonSA posted:

I also just found out via their update that one of them provided a voice for the custom character in Xenoverse, which is all kids of cool. I like to see companies acknowledge fan works in that way, far too often they just get shut down. Attack on Titan abridged could have been glorious, for instance.

It's straight up just their Nappa and it is incredible.

Covok
May 27, 2013

Yet where is that woman now? Tell me, in what heave does she reside? None of them. Because no God bothered to listen or care. If that is what you think it means to be a God, then you and all your teachings are welcome to do as that poor women did. And vanish from these realms forever.

NowonSA posted:

To be fair, after one-shotting Frieza in one of the movies, anything less is going to be a downgrade. He's also higher on the beatdown list because of that, the fans will want to see it go down differently.

I like that Frieza was killed so hard that even the Dragon can't bring him back with a single wish, all he can do is bring back the pieces which get glued together by Frieza Army Science (according to a manga leading up to the film's release). And it helps sell how much effort was needed to kill him in the first place, and it's a neat little wrinkle to me since I never figured the state of a person's body mattered when you're basically asking a Genie to magic them back into existence.

They do bring back everyone on Earth from Space Dust during the Buu saga though, but maybe the Namek dragon is just that much better than the Earth dragon.

The manga also explains why Frieza will be stronger, since he says he never trained a day in his life and just coasted on his own natural abilities, which is a far more sensible reason for him to get a huge power boost than I expected.

So yeah, Revival of F should be pretty drat great, though now I also want to see Revival of C and Revival of B (nevermind that there have been like 1-2 revivals of B, do it right this time!)

Revival of B would be impossible, no? I mean Kid Buu is currently being born as Uub and Good Buu is Good.

Flytrap posted:

Gohan eventually figured out how to cut that super metal that broke the Z-Sword and published a book about it, teaching everyone how to turn superhuman.

I say he does pretty well.

Is this EU stuff? If so, that's pretty awesome way of capitalizing on the "more of a scholar than a superhero" shitck Adult Gohan has.

sharktamer
Oct 30, 2011

Shark tamer ridiculous
What is Vegeta's surname?

Covok
May 27, 2013

Yet where is that woman now? Tell me, in what heave does she reside? None of them. Because no God bothered to listen or care. If that is what you think it means to be a God, then you and all your teachings are welcome to do as that poor women did. And vanish from these realms forever.

sharktamer posted:

What is Vegeta's surname?

Prince Of All Sayians.

Edit: That's the closet we ever get for a surname for them or any sayian, really. Considering Dragonball Minus established their people don't have a concept of family with Bardock and Gene being the exceptions, they might simply not have family names.

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

His name is Vegeta Vegeta of Planet Vegeta, son of King Vegeta Vegeta.

e X
Feb 23, 2013

cool but crude

sharktamer posted:

What is Vegeta's surname?

A lot of nobility is named after the realm the rule, so his name is obviously Vegeta Vegeta

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.

Covok posted:

Revival of B would be impossible, no? I mean Kid Buu is currently being born as Uub and Good Buu is Good.


Is this EU stuff? If so, that's pretty awesome way of capitalizing on the "more of a scholar than a superhero" shitck Adult Gohan has.

It's apart of Dragon Ball Onlines backstory, Gohan writes a book titled "Groundbreaking Science" about Ki manipulation, leading to a resurgence in Martial Arts and humanity in general learning to fly and such. Goten and Trunks open up a Ki-Infused Sword Dojo based on his findings.

So yes, Gohan mapped out the science of Ki and pushed humanity to new heights for the DB Online backstory.

Krilling founded the New Turtle School to teach students cooperative attacks and abilities (since his experiences had taught him that supporters were necessary even for the biggest fights) meanwhile Tenshinhan founded the New Crane School to teach overwhelmingly powerful Ki and Life draining techniques because things like the Spirit Bomb spoke to him as "You can kill anything by liberally applying enough force."

Yamcha did nothing.

Another thing I found interesting thinking about it, Dragon Ball is sort of lucky for the comments made to Toriyama as he wrote it, like during the first world Tournament, everyone went to Toriyama "So Goku's obviously winning right?" and eventually he just decided "No, Goku's going to lose because nobody is going to see him losing coming." and in the end it told a great story about there always being someone better, that the world was always vaster than you thought with more powerful foes.

Which when you think about it, is something BoG used as its message to. Only instead of Roshi, Beerus delivered the message that as strong as Goku was, he still hadn't reached the summit and become the strongest in the universe.

Twiddy
May 17, 2008

To the man who loves art for its own sake, it is frequently in its least important and lowliest manifestations that the keenest pleasure is to be derived.

Onmi posted:

it's not super funny, and you wouldn't expect it to be. But Adult Gohan knocked it out of the park, the Androids are awesome as always. Trunks, as he usually is, is the weakest part of the future. Oh yeah and Bulma tries to get in Gohan's pants.
I dunno man, I'm cracking up all the time. Then again, I love black humor, and that is like all this is running on.

New Leaf
Jul 24, 2013

Dragon Balls? Are they tasty?

e X posted:

A lot of nobility is named after the realm the rule, so his name is obviously Vegeta Vegeta

What if Vegeta is his last name and he hates his first name so he keeps it a secret. Like Francis. Or Shannon. Or both! Shannon Francis Vegeta.

Edit: Clarence Milton Vegeta

Pyroi
Aug 17, 2013

gay elf noises

Covok posted:

Revival of B would be impossible, no?

Well, they only just introduced Beerus and he IS the God of Destruction, so I doubt they would kill him off so-

Covok posted:

I mean Kid Buu is currently being born as Uub and Good Buu is Good.

Ooooh, oh. That makes much more sense.

Also, History of Trunks is amazing, and I liked the callback to Vegeta's rage scream across time and space.

Arsonist Daria
Feb 27, 2011

Requiescat in pace.

Twiddy posted:

I dunno man, I'm cracking up all the time. Then again, I love black humor, and that is like all this is running on.

Agreed, TFS has great talent for jokes that you know you shouldn't laugh at, but they cut just the right way.

"You look so good in that jacket! All the girls in the past are gonna love you."

ZoninSilver
May 30, 2011
Ahahahaha, I just heard the Vegeta namek scream :allears:

In It For The Tank
Feb 17, 2011

But I've yet to figure out a better way to spend my time.
Gohan telling the Androids to take a ride on his fist might be my favorite line in any TFS thing ever.

Bacontotem
May 27, 2010



Onmi posted:

It's apart of Dragon Ball Onlines backstory, Gohan writes a book titled "Groundbreaking Science" about Ki manipulation, leading to a resurgence in Martial Arts and humanity in general learning to fly and such. Goten and Trunks open up a Ki-Infused Sword Dojo based on his findings.

So yes, Gohan mapped out the science of Ki and pushed humanity to new heights for the DB Online backstory.

Krilling founded the New Turtle School to teach students cooperative attacks and abilities (since his experiences had taught him that supporters were necessary even for the biggest fights) meanwhile Tenshinhan founded the New Crane School to teach overwhelmingly powerful Ki and Life draining techniques because things like the Spirit Bomb spoke to him as "You can kill anything by liberally applying enough force."

Yamcha did nothing.

Another thing I found interesting thinking about it, Dragon Ball is sort of lucky for the comments made to Toriyama as he wrote it, like during the first world Tournament, everyone went to Toriyama "So Goku's obviously winning right?" and eventually he just decided "No, Goku's going to lose because nobody is going to see him losing coming." and in the end it told a great story about there always being someone better, that the world was always vaster than you thought with more powerful foes.

Which when you think about it, is something BoG used as its message to. Only instead of Roshi, Beerus delivered the message that as strong as Goku was, he still hadn't reached the summit and become the strongest in the universe.

Yamcha was a one hit wonder with cat loves food during the namek to androids interval and went on to be baseball player by Buu. He's spends all his money on escorts that look like Bulma.

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!
"I miss country."

This reference only makes me remember how long its been since I watched the last TFS episode.

Raxivace
Sep 9, 2014

Christ does TFS have an awful video player. I've been trying to watch the last five minutes of the new special for half an hour now.

StrifeHira
Nov 7, 2012

I'll remind you that I have a very large stick.
That special was well worth the wait. Had a nice balance of serious and hilarious.

God, all the Gohan stuff, even the joke about Park Ranger 17 was a nice little reference. The Tapion one had me smiling like a dork. :allears:

jivjov
Sep 13, 2007

But how does it taste? Yummy!
Dinosaur Gum
That was well worth the wait. Crapbaskets, the Namek scream, delusional-Piccolo,and park ranger 17 were all beautiful references. I also love that TFS put more thought into trying to explain why half the world is blown to poo poo while everyone continues going about their business than the show itself did. I'm of two minds on the liberal use of Doctor Who music though.

Oh, and the dedication to Monty Oum was nice to see :)

Darko
Dec 23, 2004

My favorite part was slipping Chrono Trigger music into the amusement park with the Dragon Quest slime balloon.

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!

Darko posted:

My favorite part was slipping Chrono Trigger music into the amusement park with the Dragon Quest slime balloon.

I was just about to comment on that.

I wonder if they'll use the Lavos battle music when Gohan fights Cell.

Because, I mean, look at him.


Ekusukariba
Oct 11, 2012
That was amazing, favorite joke was definitely #18 trying to call dibs then getting blasted, I hope spazzy trunks becomes a thing in the newer episodes

Pureauthor
Jul 8, 2010

ASK ME ABOUT KISSING A GHOST
I did love Trunks getting all excited to meet his dad for the first time and Bulma realizing what the poor kid is going to go through.

StrifeHira
Nov 7, 2012

I'll remind you that I have a very large stick.

Hobgoblin2099 posted:

I was just about to comment on that.

I wonder if they'll use the Lavos battle music when Gohan fights Cell.

Because, I mean, look at him.



Funny you mention that, because in Dragon Ball Online...



Yeah...

Someone call the ginger Goku and his pals, because Future's refusing to change.

gently caress, TFS should have used that as a joke for the special.

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NowonSA
Jul 19, 2013

I am the sexiest poster in the world!
What was park ranger 17 a reference to?

Covok posted:

Revival of B would be impossible, no? I mean Kid Buu is currently being born as Uub and Good Buu is Good.

I was thinking Revival of :supaburn:Brolly:supaburn:, but now I see given my context Buu is how most people would read it. He did have a revival/reincarnation after all, and all the other references I was making were to main series villains.

At this point, I feel like the best possible DBZ movie is going to be one that crosses across the entire continuity of the DBZ anime and movies. We already have multiple-universe time travel verified as a thing, so conceivably Dr. Gero or some new villain could make a big time machine and gather up all the major villains to beat up the Z-fighters once and for all. Instead of your typical new fodder henchmen, now you have Majin Vegeta, Frieza, Cell, Buu, Brolly, Garlic Jr. (with immortality wish), I mean the list goes on. Hell, you can have multiple Friezas/Cells/etc. on the ship culled from different universes. You can make a new villain, or go all-in on multiverse theory and have them led by an Evil Goku who keeps a good Turles around in a cage. When all hope seems lost, you can have a different Future Trunks show up with his own big time machine and end up with slightly different versions of all our heroes saving the day.

Plus you can do the old time-travel trope of them killing all the heroes at the start of the movie, and then say they're moving on to the next universe as Earth explodes behind them.

It's absolutely fanservice of the highest caliber, to the point of being an exaggerated fanfic, but it'd be a hell of a crazy way to end things if they ever decide they're definitely for reals this time done with DBZ. I'd also be much more invested in a fight between Gotenks and Perfect Cell, for example, than Gotenks vs. random new dude. It seems like it would create more of a chaotic battlefield feel too, with opponents swapping more frequently rather than "Everyone pick your fodder to fight, then help me out on the main guy."

While that idea's hard to do right, DBZ has had so many great villains that it's a shame they've never teamed up (aside from a brief "Hell is broken and here's Frieza for you to vaporize, Gohan" moment), and I think combining all the classic villains with a tweaked version of the standard DBZ fight formula would really be something special.

This is all just me letting my childhood enthusiasm flow though, I'm just glad that DBZ movies are back to being a thing and that they're at least trying to make them fit in continuity, which hasn't historically been a huge priority.

Edit: Oh, and my favorite moment from TFS Trunks was Trunks crying while he threw ineffectual punches at the Androids. So good.

NowonSA fucked around with this message at 17:00 on Mar 19, 2015

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