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I personally always thought of Belwas as Middle Eastern or Central Asian, but it's not the sort of casting I'd get upset about if they made him black.
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The Amok art is pretty much how I saw Strong Belwas in my head when I first read his scenes: 
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Lycus posted:And from the looks of the trailer, the show will build a foundation for it, what with that scene of Drogon visiting her at her pyramid. So they can't be "tamed", but they're still intelligent and have an emotional bond with her. I think this was supposed to be the deal in the book as well (i.e. explaining why Dany was able to ride the berserk dragon away), but I thought it fell pretty flat. Seemed very McGuffin-y.
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Mar 19, 2015 15:07
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Apparently Mance is going to burn in the first episode, I really hope they do that stupid glamour thing now because I want to see Mance in Winterfell trolling the Boltons.  Source
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Mar 19, 2015 16:19
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So Ciaran Hinds was the actor that expected to get more scenes for season 5, ehh? There's also a thread on Reddit that spoils the entire first episode of S5, including that Cersei's prophecy flashback does not mention a valonqar at all.
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Mar 19, 2015 16:26
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I guess because this show is usually really bad at teasing things out for a while for fear the audience will forget about it, maybe Tommen and Myrcella will both die this season since that aspect remained in the show version of the prophecy. But then again, loving Balon is still alive so who knows.
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Mar 19, 2015 16:34
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It's awesome that Lancel & Kevan are back, Lancel is funny as gently caress. It seems out of everyone Cersei is going have the most faithful arc in S5 so far.
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Mar 19, 2015 17:12
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BillBear posted:It's awesome that Lancel & Kevan are back, Lancel is funny as gently caress. Well obviously, nobody else has anything to do with the Sparrows.
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Mar 19, 2015 17:36
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They're killing Caesar? gently caress this show he's the best actor on it.
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Mar 19, 2015 18:30
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BreakAtmo posted:The Amok art is pretty much how I saw Strong Belwas in my head when I first read his scenes: DJ Khaled for Belwas
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Mar 19, 2015 18:32
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I always pictured Strong Belwas as James Monroe Iglehart:
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Mar 19, 2015 18:51
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:They're killing Caesar? gently caress this show he's the best actor on it. They really underused him though. I kinda totally forgot he was actually on it.
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Mar 19, 2015 19:48
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:They're killing Caesar? gently caress this show he's the best actor on it. They already might as well have killed him in whatever season it was he was last in with more than 1 scene.
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Mar 19, 2015 20:09
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So are they going to burn Mance for real, I don't understand?
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whatever7 posted:So are they going to burn Mance for real, I don't understand? I have mixed feelings on this. I dont want then to kill Mance because he is important,. a great character (underused in the series) and the actor is also amazing. At the other hand, that "glamour" thing is probably one of the most stupid things in the book.
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Mar 19, 2015 20:14
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Some hopeful *desperate* people believe Mel will revive his corpse afterwards and Jon will assign him his mission then. Only problem is... he would be mostly charred bones.
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Mar 19, 2015 20:21
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BillBear posted:Some hopeful *desperate* people believe Mel will revive his corpse afterwards and Jon will assign him his mission then. I'm sure R'hllor would give his body back if she asked nice enough
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Anonymous John posted:There's also a thread on Reddit that spoils the entire first episode of S5, including that Cersei's prophecy flashback does not mention a valonqar at all. That seems weird if true. Isn't the whole point of the prophecy that it helps explain her paranoia and hatred of Tyrion? Why include it otherwise?
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colonel_korn posted:That seems weird if true. Isn't the whole point of the prophecy that it helps explain her paranoia and hatred of Tyrion? Why include it otherwise? The whole thing is unnecessary. I don't know why GRRM put it in there in the first place since Cersei doesn't need a prophecy for her character to fear Tyrion.
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Mar 19, 2015 20:31
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colonel_korn posted:That seems weird if true. Isn't the whole point of the prophecy that it helps explain her paranoia and hatred of Tyrion? Why include it otherwise? It's probably because unlike in the books, Cersei and Tyrion have been on okay terms on the show up until Joffrey's murder. I wonder whether this changes the likelihood of Cersei being killed by Jaime on the show.
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Mar 19, 2015 20:35
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I think Cersei still disliked Tyrion before Joff's demise mostly because of the whole " he killed our mother" thing. But yeah they seemed way less hostile towards each other.
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Mar 19, 2015 20:46
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I really hope the show includes her paranoia and at least one rant about Tyrion hiding in the walls of the Red Keep.
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Mar 19, 2015 20:54
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So I am rewatching the show, and one thing that I really liked (especially for viewers) that they did was having the little scenery shot with the name of where they were, and a little thing about the place. It is a nice little touch.
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KKKLIP ART posted:So I am rewatching the show, and one thing that I really liked (especially for viewers) that they did was having the little scenery shot with the name of where they were, and a little thing about the place. It is a nice little touch. What, in the intro? It's a pretty good intro for a channel that's known for them.
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Frostwerks posted:What, in the intro? It's a pretty good intro for a channel that's known for them.   
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The show in general I feel is painting Cercei as a more sympathetic figure than she is in the books.
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Ross posted:The show in general I feel is painting Cercei as a more sympathetic figure than she is in the books. Are you supposed to sympathize with Cersei at all in the books? She's pretty heinous from beginning to end.
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Anonymous John posted:There's also a thread on Reddit that spoils the entire first episode of S5, including that Cersei's prophecy flashback does not mention a valonqar at all. I'm fine with that. Most people aren't going to have any idea what that is.
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Mar 19, 2015 22:03
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Anonymous John posted:It's probably because unlike in the books, Cersei and Tyrion have been on okay terms on the show up until Joffrey's murder. Cersei is getting killed by Jaime. It's been built up for the past several books, how she's changing and he's changing and he's realizing that there's more to life than her. While looking up some of the songs from the show, I forgot about Symon Silver-Tongue's song for Tyrion. I think it also really heavily applies to Jaime: quote:He rode through the streets of the city,
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:I think he means these, which are just in the first episode: Yeah these are what I am talking about, I just didn't know the best way to describe them. I really liked it and kinda wished they did that, at least for the first time you see somewhere since sometimes the inside of one castle looks like the inside of all castles. Having read the books it isn't as big of a deal, but I think it would help show how spread out everyone is.
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BillBear posted:Apparently Mance is going to burn in the first episode, I really hope they do that stupid glamour thing now because I want to see Mance in Winterfell trolling the Boltons. We see Rattleshirt in the trailers, so if Mance survives, he might be staying incognito as the Lord of Bones. But I'm gonna guess they just dump that poo poo and Mance is flambé for reals. Show Mance has been a very different creature than book Mance, and I see no reason he'd go to Winterfell. I still wonder if his role would be more in line with the books if they had cast McNulty for the part like they originally wanted...
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Irish Joe posted:Are you supposed to sympathize with Cersei at all in the books? She's pretty heinous from beginning to end. I think it's easy to sympathize with Cersei when she was married to Robert. He beat her, cheated on her, insulted her in public, and made it pretty clear that she was only a backup option at queen. Like there is a difference between Cersei and Jayne Poole's situation with Ramsay, but both women share the common theme of being married to men who treat them just horribly. Outside of that though yeah Cersei's a total rear end in a top hat. She was a little poo poo as a kid, a little poo poo as a teenager, and a little poo poo as an adult. If she was born as a guy then you better believe she'd have volunteered to pillage the Riverlands over Gregor.
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Doltos posted:I think it's easy to sympathize with Cersei when she was married to Robert. He beat her, cheated on her, insulted her in public, and made it pretty clear that she was only a backup option at queen. Like there is a difference between Cersei and Jayne Poole's situation with Ramsay, but both women share the common theme of being married to men who treat them just horribly. It's actually one of the things I thought the show writers did a good job on, they added a lot more conflict to Cersei. Instead of being yet another fantasy story evil queen, they play up how her own plans get out of her control. I thought a great humanizing moment for show Cersei was her reaction to having Joffrey be the one to order the murder of Robert's bastards. No matter how necessary the act may seem to be in order to secure her son's throne, you still see her kind of shocked at the extent of Joffrey's blase attitude towards brutality, and subsequently you see her making a choice to simply shut out Joffrey's true nature for her own sake. It was a moment where you really saw the difference between Cersei the Queen watching her son do whatever it takes to secure his throne and Cersei the mother seeing her own worst nightmares played out over and over again on the city streets. It also showed us dramatically why Cersei did what she did to Ned. Instead of simply telling us she did it to protect her own children, we saw her fears acted out in front of her and we saw in cold blood what it was she was trying to avoid. It's a good bit of dramatic irony too that one of the children she was trying to protect would then go on to enact that same exact horrible scenario on other mothers.
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Ballz posted:We see Rattleshirt in the trailers, so if Mance survives, he might be staying incognito as the Lord of Bones. Why didn't he take the role?
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Mar 20, 2015 00:49
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PriorMarcus posted:Why didn't he take the role? He didnt understand the shooting schedule
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Mar 20, 2015 00:56
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It really would be a shame to lose Mance, adjacency to talent makes Jon Snow come alive: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhfJd5FM9uI
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Did Caesar read the book? Maybe he was the one who pissed because he got wrecked in the opener?
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Ballz posted:We see Rattleshirt in the trailers, so if Mance survives, he might be staying incognito as the Lord of Bones. Just pull a Phantom Menace and have Mance's assistant be the real Mance.
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BillBear posted:Some hopeful *desperate* people believe Mel will revive his corpse afterwards and Jon will assign him his mission then. Does this mean Mance is going to be one of those wacky CGI skeletons for the rest of the season?
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computer parts posted:Just pull a Phantom Menace and have Mance's assistant be the real Mance. Don't say things like this, it's just going to raise false hopes of Dominic West still popping up as the real Mance Rayder later.
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